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The state of comments online about road traffic deaths and cycling

Thelonious Monk

MODERATOR NOTE: Moved the first 22 posts here to a new thread as few of them relate to speed limits in Dublin and thus off-topic on the 30km/h thread.

https://www.thejournal.ie/man-hit-by-truck-charleville-5212906-Sep2020/

This man was killed today. I had a look at the street he was killed on, typical straight road going through a typical car dominated town. We don't know the details but this kind of thing should not be happening in a town centre. If you look at the street here, you'll see it's just a straight road that you could put the foot down on if you wanted, even though it's a town centre. The street should not be designed like this, it should not be possible to floor it on a main street of a town.
I would guess this man's death could have been avoided if the street wasn't designed purely for cars.

Also why do Journal commenters only comment on road accident articles if bicycles are involved?

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Seth Brundle

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Took so long to read out the long list of red light breaking cyclists that it took up agenda item number one. didn't even get to discuss who has paid road tax and insurance.

...also bear in mind that the AGM started early because everyone arrived early having broken every red light on the way!

breezy1985

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Took so long to read out the long list of red light breaking cyclists that it took up agenda item number one. didn't even get to discuss who has paid road tax and insurance.

Red naturally means go for us good comrade cyclists and insurance is a construct of the bourgeois motorist

Pinch Flat

magicbastarder wrote: »

i thought we'd planned a hostile takeover of their thoughts and intentions? or did that vote not carry at the militant cyclist AGM?

Took so long to read out the long list of red light breaking cyclists that it took up agenda item number one. didn't even get to discuss who has paid road tax and insurance.

breezy1985

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I was being sarcastic, delighted that they'll be allowed. Anything that isn't a car on the road is great in my book, including motorised scooters/motorbikes, I wish they were encouraged more.

Fair enough. Some of the comments are so dumb it's hard to tell the joke ones

Thelonious Monk

breezy1985 wrote: »

Well they are already all over the place so I don't see how it changes anything.

I just want to be clear though speaking as a member of the cyclist hive mind we would like to point out that we have no association with the scooterists and will not be held responsible for their actions

I was being sarcastic, delighted that they'll be allowed. Anything that isn't a car on the road is great in my book, including motorised scooters/motorbikes, I wish they were encouraged more.

breezy1985

magicbastarder wrote: »

i thought we'd planned a hostile takeover of their thoughts and intentions? or did that vote not carry at the militant cyclist AGM?

It was felt that they had too many Marxists in the organisation and it wouldn't fit well with our Trotskyism

magicbastarder

breezy1985 wrote: »

I just want to be clear though speaking as a member of the cyclist hive mind we would like to point out that we have no association with the scooterists and will not be held responsible for their actions

i thought we'd planned a hostile takeover of their thoughts and intentions? or did that vote not carry at the militant cyclist AGM?

[Deleted User]

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Sorry, I meant 30km limits. Looks like the worst we will get is 40km. Bad but could have been worse.

Seems to be a bit of momentum building towards a 30 kmph limit;
https://twitter.com/LenaHudafor30/status/1320936661492985856

breezy1985

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

You'll be delighted to hear e-scooters will be made legal next year in Ireland, there will be absolute chaos on the roads!

Well they are already all over the place so I don't see how it changes anything.

I just want to be clear though speaking as a member of the cyclist hive mind we would like to point out that we have no association with the scooterists and will not be held responsible for their actions

07Lapierre

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

On another thread you boast about your irresponsible cycling habits ("I wear earphones all the time") and yet get the hump that people have an issue with cyclists being the author of their own misfortune.

Sure I once drove after 15 pints and some idiot dented my bonnet when I mounted the footpath.

No difference really.

That's a ludicrous comparison!

http://www.john-s-allen.com/bikexprt/bicycle/hearing.htm

[Deleted User]

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

No difference really.

Have another think about that now.

Pinch Flat

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

The arrogance of the cyclists is breathtaking but not a bit surprising.

Lol. I drive as well. Any idea where driving with 15 pints in a 1.5 tonne vehicle will leave you?

Stark

I predict an initial wave of deaths, after which herd immunity leaves us with only those fit and able enough to outrun the scooters.

Thelonious Monk

You'll be delighted to hear e-scooters will be made legal next year in Ireland, there will be absolute chaos on the roads!

doublejobbing 2

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Top drawer in trolling to be fair. Equating headphones and drink driving. Loooool

Both as irresponsible as the other. While the first is more likey to injure the offender than the second, the first will risk saddling a motorist with criminal penalties and making them uninsurable.

The arrogance of the cyclists is breathtaking but not a bit surprising.

Pinch Flat

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

On another thread you boast about your irresponsible cycling habits ("I wear earphones all the time") and yet get the hump that people have an issue with cyclists being the author of their own misfortune.

Sure I once drove after 15 pints and some idiot dented my bonnet when I mounted the footpath.

No difference really.

Top drawer in trolling to be fair. Equating headphones and drink driving. Loooool

endacl

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

On another thread you boast about your irresponsible cycling habits ("I wear earphones all the time") and yet get the hump that people have an issue with cyclists being the author of their own misfortune.

Sure I once drove after 15 pints and some idiot dented my bonnet when I mounted the footpath.

No difference really.

Y U so cwoss?

doublejobbing 2

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yeah, I've seen Dublin Live comments after cyclist accidents. At least they're honest enough to say they're glad the cyclist was hurt on that sh*tshow of a site.

On another thread you boast about your irresponsible cycling habits ("I wear earphones all the time") and yet get the hump that people have an issue with cyclists being the author of their own misfortune.

Sure I once drove after 15 pints and some idiot dented my bonnet when I mounted the footpath.

No difference really.

Thelonious Monk

Pinch Flat wrote: »

It's that fake sympathy as well. "Condolences to the cyclists family but I saw one without a helmet the other day".

Yeah, I've seen Dublin Live comments after cyclist accidents. At least they're honest enough to say they're glad the cyclist was hurt on that sh*tshow of a site.

Pinch Flat

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Because the person is posting that to try and lay the blame on the cyclist, simple as that. They're trying to say "I hope the driver doesn't feel bad because it was obviously the cyclist fault, I saw one break red lights the other day".
It's just disgusting carry on.
What kind of a sap are you with that signature on your posts too? Ffs, get a life.

It's that fake sympathy as well. "Condolences to the cyclists family but I saw one without a helmet the other day".

[Deleted User]

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Theft of our personal time.

Hazel Chu is a particularly odious character. The way she is given sometimes twice weekly interviews and opinion pieces in the national newspapers is despicable- she's a local councillor in an honorary role as mayor yet is being groomed for election as a TD.

I'm from Dublin and can barely remember who the last five mayors were yet this wan has a higher national profile than Rudy Giulani did.

Oh look, a brand new account trolling across multiple forums *yawn*

Thelonious Monk

magicbastarder wrote: »

this always comes up. the green party must be a *hell* of a powerful bunch of people considering they occupy only 16% of council seats in dublin.

Lately everyone seems to blame them for the carbon taxes introduced by FG to align with the Paris Agreement that FG signed up for a few years ago too. Damn Greens.

doublejobbing 2

magicbastarder wrote: »

this always comes up. the green party must be a *hell* of a powerful bunch of people considering they occupy only 16% of council seats in dublin.

Labour and the other left groups are no better. All in alliance.

magicbastarder

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

These Green party scum want putting on trial.

this always comes up. the green party must be a *hell* of a powerful bunch of people considering they occupy only 16% of council seats in dublin.

doublejobbing 2

Seth Brundle wrote: »

For what?

Theft of our personal time.

Hazel Chu is a particularly odious character. The way she is given sometimes twice weekly interviews and opinion pieces in the national newspapers is despicable- she's a local councillor in an honorary role as mayor yet is being groomed for election as a TD.

I'm from Dublin and can barely remember who the last five mayors were yet this wan has a higher national profile than Rudy Giulani did.

Seth Brundle

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

These Green party scum want putting on trial.

For what?

doublejobbing 2

magicbastarder wrote: »

i wouldn't pay much heed, their grasp of detail is poor if they think the move to bring 50km/h limits in on the roads in dublin has been 'stymied'. there are only about 15km of roads in the entire DCC area which have a speed limit higher than 50km/h. the *vast* majority are 50km/h or lower.

Sorry, I meant 30km limits. Looks like the worst we will get is 40km. Bad but could have been worse.

These Green party scum want putting on trial.

magicbastarder

breezy1985 wrote: »

What kind of utter waffle is this. The French and Germans are dressing in rags now?

i wouldn't pay much heed, their grasp of detail is poor if they think the move to bring 50km/h limits in on the roads in dublin has been 'stymied'. there are only about 15km of roads in the entire DCC area which have a speed limit higher than 50km/h. the *vast* majority are 50km/h or lower.

Spook_ie

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Because the person is posting that to try and lay the blame on the cyclist, simple as that. They're trying to say "I hope the driver doesn't feel bad because it was obviously the cyclist fault, I saw one break red lights the other day".
It's just disgusting carry on.
What kind of a sap are you with that signature on your posts too? Ffs, get a life.

You one of those trolls?

doublejobbing 2

breezy1985 wrote: »

What kind of utter waffle is this. The French and Germans are dressing in rags now?

You obviously never met many. Most of them are tighter than a nun. Wardrobe worth a tenner, drink two pints on a night out. Hence why they cycle everywhere, too tight to get a bus never mind run a car.