thomond2006 wrote: » The Barbarians game getting axed doesn't help their preparation but I think only biblically bad weather would stop England running up a serious score.
bilston wrote: » I just disagree with this sentiment so strongly. Was he perfect? No. Was anyone? No Did he drop one high ball? Yes The positives outweighed the negatives quite comfortably IMO. The clearance kicks were very effective and the running from deep was superb as well. I'd 100% be persevering with him there. Come the 2021 6Ns with a run of games behind him I think he will make the position his own. I don't know why people get so down on him to be honest.
damianmcr wrote: » If only he played for Leinster he'd be the best in the world.
bilston wrote: » I wouldnt say it's guaranteed England will beat Italy by 23 points in Rome at all. Is it likely? Sure it is. But the Italians won't roll over at home. It would better of there was a crowd there of course. Conversely the lack of a crowd (or are the French still letting in small numbers? Maybe 1,000 max) in Paris should work in our favour as well. It could easily become quite a loose game. France will, in theory, have a chance of the title, albeit they'll need to best us by 2 points more than what England beat Italy, should England get the bonus point win
kingofthekong wrote: » Murray was the 3rd best Irish scrum half today, Jgp speeds up everything Ireland do, his pass is far more powerful which reaches the man faster, his decision making his faster and he offers a sniping threat that Murray no longer does
thomond2006 wrote: » So Ringrose is out and Earls was training with the squad today. Well it's obvious isn't it? Earls at 13 against France.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Has anyone else noticed the distinct lack of articles relating to the debut of JGP? Just to be clear, I have an issue with it, but is there a reason that Jean Kleyn garnered so much attention on his promotion to the team and many other players before him also but it seems to have been missing in the build up to this? Have journos like Franno actually matured? I could be wrong of course, because I haven’t read an article from any of the rugby hacks in a long time.
aloooof wrote: » Murray was comfortably one of our better performers today, along with our entire back-row and Keenan. This just seems way off the mark, to me.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I think most people are satisfied with the move to 5 years (despite it being delayed) as it removes the cynicism from the process. I don't mind someone coming here and earning the right to play but I wasn't in favour of the IRFU travelling the world to find people who would come to Ireland on the promise of a potential call up to international level. The move to 5 years remedies this (for me anyway) and has perhaps contributed to the lack of contention around the issue.
VANG1 wrote: » Le Roux could be banned for elbow in the face of AWJ. very nasty cheap shot.
Deleted User wrote: » I think most people are satisfied with the move to 5 years (despite it being delayed) as it removes the cynicism from the process. I don't mind someone coming here and earning the right to play but I wasn't in favour of the IRFU travelling the world to find people who would come to Ireland on the promise of a potential call up to international level. The move to 5 years remedies this (for me anyway) and has perhaps contributed to the lack of contention around the issue.
PhlegmyMoses wrote: » I think that the perception that Kleyn replaced an Irish stalwart in what was likely his last World Cup added a bit of extra outrage to the piece as well so the press could get more mileage out of it. It's contextually different this time even without the 5 year rule change, as we arent exactly flush with talented 9s ready to shout in at international level at the moment
lawrencesummers wrote: » I had no issue with the old rules, and have none with the new rules. It’s the change in 12 months from having a massive amount of articles about Kleyn to now absolutely none that I find contradictory from the media.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Outrage could also be levelled that a non Irish player has taken the place of SH’s who are starting for their province, players who have played for Ireland at underage up along. Let me be clear, because some people need it spelled out, I’ve no issue with JGP being given his shot, and he needs to be tied down as well, but the hypocrisy of the media in making a massive issue out of something a year ago that isn’t given any reference this year Is laughable. While you mention perception it can be perceived that Kleyn over toner was an issue because it was a Munster player over a Leinster player, but that doesn’t exist in this case because it’s a leinster player over a Connacht player or a leinster player over a Munster player, and also a leinster player over a leinster player.
Buer wrote: » How many was a massive amount? I recall Francis who most realise is a waster. Anything else I remember was more concentrated on the fact that Kleyn was selected ahead of far more established options and wasn't deserving of that.
lawrencesummers wrote: » The selection of Kleyn received a lot of paper and airtime. An Embarrassing amount of it tbh, now some of that might have been attributed to the fact the RWc is allocated more coverage that needs to be filled as opposed to a reorganized out of sorts 6N game against the minnows, but it still doesn’t explain the change in coverage.
Buer wrote: » Well, actually it does explain the change in coverage. Of course it does. Huge focus on a tournament which is being intensely reported on versus a home game against Italy in front of an empty stadium 6 months after it was scheduled. And I still don't recall a massive amount specifically focused on Kleyn being capped as opposed to him being selected ahead of players that many perceived as better. They're not the same thing.
Faugheen wrote: » Kleyn was called up just weeks out from the World Cup having not earned a shot and made the plane, not long after being qualified. JGP earned his shot almost a year after qualifying through good performances and playing better than previous incumbents in McGrath, Marmion and Cooney. There’s the difference. There was genuine outrage over Kleyn because there was nothing to suggest he had earned a place in the Rugby World Cup. JGP had to actually work to earn his chance. You can bitch and moan about the media not covering it all you want but this is why. Kleyn going to the World Cup was a baffling call at the time, JGP playing back-up to Murray isn’t.
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