dundalkfc10 wrote: » How you feel after your party sold out and tried to hide what the Church and FG/FF done to folk years ago? Every week SF grow cause anybody with any kind of respect seeing what's happened will never vote FF/FG again
FrancieBrady wrote: » Again you simply lie christy. Nobody wanted to 'spend money in escrow' because you cannot legally, physically or in any other way spend money in escrow. That is why it is put in escrow in the first place. It is actually 'breathtakingly stupid' to keep saying this was the 'plan'. The plan was to drop Ireland's part in the appeal, leaving it Apple against the EU.
christy c wrote: » Do you realise SF can be stupid without any help from the government? As long as SF have gombeens in top positions this thread will be busy
dundalkfc10 wrote: » The Govt are in crisis again and the Sinn Fein thread is busy. They are relentless
Bishop of hope wrote: » I'm not sure that is so, but either way wouldn't it be, absolutely ridiculous to spend it. What would happen if apple won, and they did before? But christys claim is correct, SF wanted or at least were presenting a case for spending it.
christy c wrote: » Rabbit hole. The whole concept was completely stupid, and there is no defending that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » As far as I understand it, the money was awarded to us, WE set up and control the escrow account, (admined by the Central bank) Had we dropped the appeal, the money could legally have been distributed and spent even if Apple continued it's own appeal.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Fairness in what you claim would be a good start. You cannot spend money in escrow...it needs to come out of escrow first.
christy c wrote: » You can't argue the points, so you call me a liar, pathetic. Sf wanted to spend the Apple money that was held in escrow. You want to go down a rabbit hole about the methodology of how the money would get out of escrow, but I will not be wasting my Saturday arguing with someone so stupid that they think the demographics will look after themselves. Thankfully our elected governments appealed the flawed state aid ruling, it's a bonus that SF and their fans look stupid in the process. Highly unlikely the appeal will be overruled IMO, so nothing to worry about. Just have the "FAIRNESS" soundbites at the ready as I said before.
Bishop of hope wrote: » From RTÉ news report. "Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald had suggested over the weekend that the state could reach "right this minute" into the escrow account where the funds are being held to pay for further income supports for workers."
FrancieBrady wrote: » Did they want to spend money that was held n Escrow christy? NO they did not. You repeatedly lie about that, which isn't a great look to be honest. Apple knew they were in a much stronger position partnering with Ireland. Would they have had a stronger case if Ireland had sided with the EU...I doubt it. And there is still the possibility that Ireland and Apple will be overruled. What then?
christy c wrote: » Lie? Haha, they wanted to get money that was held in escrow, and spend it. And give the two fingers to our corporate tax payers in the process. Absolutely stupid, but lapped up by the fans like yourself.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Again you simply lie christy. Nobody wanted to 'spend money in escrow' because you cannot legally, physically or in any other way spend money in escrow. That is why it is put in escrow in the first place. It is actually 'breathtakingly stupid' to keep saying this was the 'plan'. The plan was to drop Ireland's partner in the appeal, leaving it Apple against the EU.
christy c wrote: » Copying? I didnt see them copying his breathtakingly stupid idea of wanting to spend money held in escrow. Or i didn't see them basing future spending on the demographics looking after themselves.
smurgen wrote: » If he's an idiot what does it say of FG that they keep copying his policies and proposals?
christy c wrote: » Well fhe latest poll showed a large drop in support for under 35s, so that would indicate that they are not growing every week. And I have plenty of respect, and will happily vote for people outside SF while they are led by an idiots like Mary Lou, and Pearse with his economic policies lifted from a lady bird book.
maccored wrote: » surely youve missed out on unionism? Its what has ruined the north
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Every week SF grow cause anybody with any kind of respect seeing what's happened will never vote FF/FG again
blanch152 wrote: » They don't understand the toxicity of nationalism. Everything is viewed through that prism. Even when it is pointed out that Ireland was never united, except under British rule, they chafe at that fact. The real hat-doffers are the republicans because they don't have enough self-belief to stand up and say that nationalism doesn't matter, all people are equal. It is also true that beneath the skin of a rabid nationalist is a latent xenophobe. Sure, it masks itself as hating "the Crown" or the "British government" and cloaks itself in pretending to love their fellow Irishmen who are unionist, but they have to be Irishmen first, whether by geographical default or some other flimsy construction. Irish nationalism has been the most toxic ideology on these islands, bringing more destruction to these shores than any other ism.
maccored wrote: » Blanch152 - will you please just admit your Unionist beliefs. You are pretending to be irish by insinuating other Irish people arent irish, yet you have the same ideals as anyone in the DUP. I have no problem pinning my nationalist tendancies to the mast. Isnt it about time you done the same with your Unionist preferences?
blanch152 wrote: » Irish nationalism has been the most toxic ideology on these islands, bringing more destruction to these shores than any other ism.
Truthvader wrote: » You have an essential point there but don't realise it. I do not regard anyone in Northern Ireland as "my own people" any more that someone in Kansas or Gambia. That is the beginning of the Nationalist rot that has poisoned all of you - though at least the "Up the RA" clown above has the dubious distinction of a kind of honesty. Imagine no nationalist bullcrap and just treat all people everywhere equally without having to resort to the tribal "us and them" stupidity which inevitably leads to it being OK if "they" die or have to be killed because it is not "us". Nationalism is not some mystical core identity based in any reality. It is a construct invented by Fichte and Herder (two German philosophers) at the end of the 17th Century - finding its fullest expression and stupid endgame in Germany about 150 years later. Still cherished by morons everywhere though
Beasty wrote: » Threadbanned
Hqrry113 wrote: » Let me guess, your favourite film is some garbage romantic film from the 1980s, you're a feminist judging by your posting history likely bisexual? And you think I have it bad?
