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General Rugby Discussion II

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sydthebeat

pickarooney wrote: »

Mmmm, Magali Harvey. Hard not to love everything about her.

She got my vote too

pickarooney

Mmmm, Magali Harvey. Hard not to love everything about her.

Richie_Rich89

I voted for Dusautoir as player of the decade, Ashton's try against Australia as try of the decade and Magali Harvey's try as women's try of the decade.

Haven't watched enough 7s or women's rugby, so I didn't vote in the other categories.

thomond2006

OldRio wrote: »

Baabaasgate, the truth is out.

Robshaw and a group of Saracens players, including veterans Richard Wigglesworth, Jackson Wray and Sean Maitland, left the team hotel in Mayfair on Wednesday night without the permission of team officials to go for a meal at an Italian restaurant.”

Its par for the course for Robshaw and Sarries.

Saracens: The gift that keeps on giving.

Dave_The_Sheep

Until Ferg is confirmed to have not been involved, I'm going to avoid taking the high ground here...

... once/if he is, then full on high horse mode can be engaged.

OldRio

Baabaasgate, the truth is out.

Robshaw and a group of Saracens players, including veterans Richard Wigglesworth, Jackson Wray and Sean Maitland, left the team hotel in Mayfair on Wednesday night without the permission of team officials to go for a meal at an Italian restaurant.”

Its par for the course for Robshaw and Sarries.

Bazzo

Wayne Barnes has tested positive for covid so obviously won't be reffing the premiership final.

salmocab

Buer wrote: »

I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the room when that was decided.

"Hey, you know what this season needs? More games! Lets make them late in the season too!"

In fairness it’s the most likely Lions game to happen

thomond2006

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FoyChris/status/1319313422429945858?s=19

Ah yes. Having a Barbarians game, whose ethos is to go out and get wasted during the week of the game, was definitely a great idea.

Buer

OldRio wrote: »

Lions to play Japan at Murrayfield in June.

I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the room when that was decided.

"Hey, you know what this season needs? More games! Lets make them late in the season too!"

Dave_The_Sheep

Twelve players needed to supplement the Barbarian's ranks, apparently.

StackSteevens

Winters wrote: »

Calum Clark probably twisted someone's arm to go drinking.

Bless your memory!

Winters

Calum Clark probably twisted someone's arm to go drinking.

Burkie1203

OldRio wrote: »

So the BaaBaas v England could be off.
Some players not observing protocols

https://twitter.com/FoyChris/status/1319313422429945858?s=19

OldRio

So the BaaBaas v England could be off.
Some players not observing protocols

sydthebeat

Fair point, but as its a public vote all criteria goes out the window

Yeah_Right

sydthebeat wrote: »

basing it on honours in the decade then sexton would be right up there

Grand slam : 2018
6 Nations: 2014,2015, 2018
HC winner 2011, 2012, 2018
Challenge Cup: 2013
Celtic league: 2013, 2018, 2019

However of all options Read is actually the one i would choose

2 RWCs 2011, 2015
TRC 2010, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18
super rugby 2017, 2018 + 2019

while Mccaw and Carter are the obvious "best player" choice.... theres an argument to be made that both basically stopped their top level career from 2015 onwards.

If its the same criteria they use for Player of the Year then the club stuff doesn't count.

McCaw and Carter were GOATs but were only around for half the decade. Dusautoir and Du Toit had one good year in the decade. Barrett has never really nailed down a position in the ABs yet still has 2 POTY awards. Rettallick has been consistently outstanding since his debut in 2012 but I can't see a tight forward winning it. Sexton and Read were both at the top of their game for the whole decade. I'd go with Read. But it will be McCaw because he is McCaw.

sydthebeat

Johnny Mc Sexton face??

hahashake

He's a worthy candidate but he might be feeling a bit sheepish if he wins. Making a popularity contest is a terrible way to decide a winner.

[Deleted User]

Same thing happens with many online votes for soccer. The team/player with most social media sway usually wins out.

Sexton would benefit from both the NZ vote being split, and also the anyone-but-NZ vote. He's on to a winner.

awec

sydthebeat wrote: »

basing it on honours in the decade then sexton would be right up there

Grand slam : 2018
6 Nations: 2014,2015, 2018
HC winner 2011, 2012, 2018
Challenge Cup: 2013
Celtic league: 2013, 2018, 2019

However of all options Read is actually the one i would choose

2 RWCs 2011, 2015
TRC 2010, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18
super rugby 2017, 2018 + 2019

while Mccaw and Carter are the obvious "best player" choice.... theres an argument to be made that both basically stopped their top level career from 2015 onwards.

Read was my vote too. It's a pure popularity contest now.

McCaw and Carter may have stopped in 2015, but both of them were more influential players than Johnny Sexton and both played for a big chunk of the decade.

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you see the current tally?

There was an update on twitter.

It was Sexton, McCaw and Carter 1/2/3.

The NZ vote getting split by too many candidates. TBH I'd have all of Read, McCaw, Carter and Retallick ahead of Sexton.

[Deleted User]

awec wrote: »

I see Sexton is leading this, proof that putting these things to a public vote is absolutely daft. The Leinster twitter was even promoting people to vote for him!

While Sexton is a great player, labelling him as player of the decade is a laughable notion, particularly when you consider what the other candidates were.

How do you see the current tally?

sydthebeat

awec wrote: »

I see Sexton is leading this, proof that putting these things to a public vote is absolutely daft. The Leinster twitter was even promoting people to vote for him!

While Sexton is a great player, labelling him as player of the decade is a laughable notion, particularly when you consider what the other candidates were.

basing it on honours in the decade then sexton would be right up there

Grand slam : 2018
6 Nations: 2014,2015, 2018
HC winner 2011, 2012, 2018
Challenge Cup: 2013
Celtic league: 2013, 2018, 2019

However of all options Read is actually the one i would choose

2 RWCs 2011, 2015
TRC 2010, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18
super rugby 2017, 2018 + 2019

while Mccaw and Carter are the obvious "best player" choice.... theres an argument to be made that both basically stopped their top level career from 2015 onwards.

awec

Clegg wrote: »

This is an interesting award, but the idea is flawed. McCaw and Carter are the two best players I've ever seen. But both were finished as test players in 2015, halfway through the decade. Same with Dusautoir. The winner really should be Read or Retallick. Consistently great performers over a decade.

https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1316666222260506625?s=19

I see Sexton is leading this, proof that putting these things to a public vote is absolutely daft. The Leinster twitter was even promoting people to vote for him!

While Sexton is a great player, labelling him as player of the decade is a laughable notion, particularly when you consider what the other candidates were.

OldRio

Lions to play Japan at Murrayfield in June.

OldRio

To lift the spirits and for something to look forward....

This weekend consists of wall to wall Rugby.

Friday to Monday.

Six Nations, Pro14, Internationals, Women's Six Nations, Super Rugby, Mitre10, Bermuda 10s (?) and the English Premiership Final featuring Exeter v whoever.

sydthebeat

swiwi_ wrote: »

And it’s the Brown-Meister...

Sense of inevitable

It will be interesting to see who he gets around him.
Mauger and hammett are big presences to replace.

swiwi_

sydthebeat wrote: »

Delighted, very good player. I'd still keep Mikele-tui as the 8 but put Himeno in at 6.

Still need a head coach though

And it’s the Brown-Meister...

PTH2009

hahashake wrote: »

Most interesting part for me would be the build and reaction the pool game against the ABs. Both teams wanted to avoid Ireland in the quarter and both assumed a win in that game would be enough - not to mention no team had a lost a pool game and then went on to win the whole thing. We know how that turned out (on all fronts) but it was a completely different perspective at the time.

Looking forward too watching it when I hopefully find the series

hahashake

PTH2009 wrote: »

There's a fly on the wall doc out on South Africa's 2019 world cup win but so hard to find. Chasing the sun its called

Most interesting part for me would be the build and reaction the pool game against the ABs. Both teams wanted to avoid Ireland in the quarter and both assumed a win in that game would be enough - not to mention no team had a lost a pool game and then went on to win the whole thing. We know how that turned out (on all fronts) but it was a completely different perspective at the time.