Hamsterchops wrote: » Oh, nice try Bonnie Just because I supported the SDLP (and not the Provos) doesn't make that so, does it.
jh79 wrote: » Creationism is an aspect of the Protestant religion. His beliefs were being denigrated too. I wasn't defending Poots just highlighting hypocrisy.
BloodyBill wrote: » Haha a go away out of it. The Sinn Fein bots were due a good overheating episode and MM provided it. Its great. I think unification should be off the table and it is. The majority dont want it. I think if it does come up the people North and South and the people in the UK as a whole should have a vote on it. Let the people of these Islands decide. Are you going to start telling me how devout my Catholicism is?.I dont think you have the credentials.
jh79 wrote: » Creation "science" and Climate denial both come from the Protestant religion.
BonnieSituation wrote: » I was denigrating him as the bigot that he is. You were the one who brought up transubstantiation and brought religion into it. It was obvious. Well, it was obvious to those of us who don't blindly defend Unionist bigots.
Junkyard Tom wrote: » A very touchy subject for you it seems. Fair play to you for trying to defend Poots' honour, or what little of it he has. Aren't there lots of different strands of Protestantism with very few being as fundamentalist as Free Presbyterianism?
jh79 wrote: » Bringing creationism into it was bringing his religion into it and i was pointing out that Catholicism has equally stupid aspects to it. Could you point out when i have "blindly defend unionist bigots"?
jh79 wrote: » Where have i defended his honour? The fuss here says more about ye to be honest. Slagging the protestant religion is ok by ye but leave the catholics alone.
Pogue eile wrote: » Yes, you really are underestimating the stupidity of the DUP - Poots is a man who believes that the world is 6,000 years old - this is but one of many examples of his 'intelligence'
jh79 wrote: » In fairness the other side believes in "virgin birth" and that the wafer turns to flesh when you eat it!
BonnieSituation wrote: » I don't think the "other side", as you so delightfully call Catholics, believe that literally. Poots is a creationist, he believes that literally. Amazing how you've managed to somehow denigrate Catholicism in defence of a belligerent bigoted Unionist. So unlike you.
Pogue eile wrote: » I must have missed that press conference, which leading politician from 'the other side' has held press conferences on these matters. Anyway to get back to the original question, Poots is a complete nutter, as I said he has repeatedly stated that the earth is only 6000 years old and continues to defend this position, but then in the next breath he denies Climate Change is real and quotes the ice-age as an example of how these things are merely cyclical - when was the Ice Age Mr. Poots :D:D
BonnieSituation wrote: » I mean... what? Why are Catholics sending their children forward to take Catholic sacraments? Do you think that most Catholics, and I can only speak from my own experiences, believe that the the Bible is to be interpreted literally and that all of its symbolism, while from the POV of the Church itself should be lapped up literally, is in fact taken as a representative and notional idea? But of course, lets ignore Poots and his LITERAL acceptance of the bible. Because that's okay and let's look at themmuns over there who take bread thinking it's Jesus and think that Mary didn't get the ride. I know lots of RC, COI and Methodists and not one of them has ever alluded to their religious teachings as to be something to be taken literally . Anyway, back to the topic at hand which is a unionist being a bigot and which you seem to be defending... I'm glad you're happy to accept Poots and his acceptance of the world being 6000 years old is perfectly okay.
BonnieSituation wrote: » So you do think that Nationalism is a valid aspiration?
Hamsterchops wrote: » Why wouldn't it be Just because I hate everything the PROVOs stood for doesn't alter the fact that Nationalism is a valid aspiration.
Dickie10 wrote: » A topic I would like to know more about is the subject of southern Irish unionists they were common enough in some parts around 1916 . What silenced them so much , where did they disappear too.
Dickie10 wrote: » were they usurped into the wider Fine Gael family? anybody know any sounthern unionist strongholds still? would DunLaoighre be one, what about Laois/Offaly do they still hold any plantation allegiance to Britain, i know theres a lot of Protestants in that area.
Mules wrote: » Protestants also believe in the virgin birth, they just don't venerate Mary.
jh79 wrote: » Always thought that was one of the key differences. So is it just transubstantiation that they differ on?
BonnieSituation wrote: » I had to ask,because you go on about Nationalists wanting to "take NI from Britain" all the time. It's a slightly ironic and weird stance. Just thought I'd check in.
Hamsterchops wrote: » You should pay Specsavers a visit. I never said that Nationalists wanted to "take NI from Britain", but what I have said is that I didn't agree with violent Irish Republicanism trying to extract Northern Ireland from the UK by murder and mayhem. Hence my preference for the SDLP who never supported the murder of anyone I also think it's a total waste of time for SF to keep banging in about a "Border Poll" in the middle of Brexit knowing that it would be very divisive and damaging. Yes by all means have a border poll when Nationalists have a chance of winning, but not right now. You may check in or check out anytime
Pogue eile wrote: » Laois was formerly known as Queens County and Kildare was known as Kings County, that's a long time ago and I certainly wouldn't refer to either as a unionist stronghold - there is a very big difference between a protestant and a Unionist.
BonnieSituation wrote: » Offaly was Kings County. And in addition to that Port Laoise was Maryborough and Daingean was Philipstown.
Hqrry113 wrote: » Yes the SDLP, otherwise known as a pack of cowards who would go into Westminster and beg for their rights and in the early 70s when ira members were dying trying to defend their communities from attack SDLP members would run down to the RUC station begging for help that never came.
Hamsterchops wrote: » Another wannabe revolutionary nutter :rolleyes: Grow a pair, and learn that violent Irish Republicanism as practised by the PIRA gained noting but death and sorrow and division, they & their followers were scum of the highest order. Contrast their ideals with the late great John Hume and the SDLP, who strived for equal rights for Nationalists in NI without the need to blow people to bits.
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