jh79 wrote: » In fairness the other side believes in "virgin birth" and that the wafer turns to flesh when you eat it!
Dickie10 wrote: » were they usurped into the wider Fine Gael family? anybody know any sounthern unionist strongholds still? would DunLaoighre be one, what about Laois/Offaly do they still hold any plantation allegiance to Britain, i know theres a lot of Protestants in that area.
Dickie10 wrote: » A topic I would like to know more about is the subject of southern Irish unionists they were common enough in some parts around 1916 . What silenced them so much , where did they disappear too.
Hamsterchops wrote: » Why wouldn't it be Just because I hate everything the PROVOs stood for doesn't alter the fact that Nationalism is a valid aspiration.
BonnieSituation wrote: » So you do think that Nationalism is a valid aspiration?
jh79 wrote: » Where have i defended his honour? The fuss here says more about ye to be honest. Slagging the protestant religion is ok by ye but leave the catholics alone.
Pogue eile wrote: » Yes, you really are underestimating the stupidity of the DUP - Poots is a man who believes that the world is 6,000 years old - this is but one of many examples of his 'intelligence'
BonnieSituation wrote: » I don't think the "other side", as you so delightfully call Catholics, believe that literally. Poots is a creationist, he believes that literally. Amazing how you've managed to somehow denigrate Catholicism in defence of a belligerent bigoted Unionist. So unlike you.
Pogue eile wrote: » I must have missed that press conference, which leading politician from 'the other side' has held press conferences on these matters. Anyway to get back to the original question, Poots is a complete nutter, as I said he has repeatedly stated that the earth is only 6000 years old and continues to defend this position, but then in the next breath he denies Climate Change is real and quotes the ice-age as an example of how these things are merely cyclical - when was the Ice Age Mr. Poots :D:D
BonnieSituation wrote: » I mean... what? Why are Catholics sending their children forward to take Catholic sacraments? Do you think that most Catholics, and I can only speak from my own experiences, believe that the the Bible is to be interpreted literally and that all of its symbolism, while from the POV of the Church itself should be lapped up literally, is in fact taken as a representative and notional idea? But of course, lets ignore Poots and his LITERAL acceptance of the bible. Because that's okay and let's look at themmuns over there who take bread thinking it's Jesus and think that Mary didn't get the ride. I know lots of RC, COI and Methodists and not one of them has ever alluded to their religious teachings as to be something to be taken literally . Anyway, back to the topic at hand which is a unionist being a bigot and which you seem to be defending... I'm glad you're happy to accept Poots and his acceptance of the world being 6000 years old is perfectly okay.
jh79 wrote: » Bringing creationism into it was bringing his religion into it and i was pointing out that Catholicism has equally stupid aspects to it. Could you point out when i have "blindly defend unionist bigots"?
Junkyard Tom wrote: » A very touchy subject for you it seems. Fair play to you for trying to defend Poots' honour, or what little of it he has. Aren't there lots of different strands of Protestantism with very few being as fundamentalist as Free Presbyterianism?
BonnieSituation wrote: » I was denigrating him as the bigot that he is. You were the one who brought up transubstantiation and brought religion into it. It was obvious. Well, it was obvious to those of us who don't blindly defend Unionist bigots.
jh79 wrote: » Creation "science" and Climate denial both come from the Protestant religion.
BloodyBill wrote: » Haha a go away out of it. The Sinn Fein bots were due a good overheating episode and MM provided it. Its great. I think unification should be off the table and it is. The majority dont want it. I think if it does come up the people North and South and the people in the UK as a whole should have a vote on it. Let the people of these Islands decide. Are you going to start telling me how devout my Catholicism is?.I dont think you have the credentials.
jh79 wrote: » Creationism is an aspect of the Protestant religion. His beliefs were being denigrated too. I wasn't defending Poots just highlighting hypocrisy.
Hamsterchops wrote: » Oh, nice try Bonnie Just because I supported the SDLP (and not the Provos) doesn't make that so, does it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Why are you so sensitive about it? The poster clearly thinks those who believe in Creationism are loons. Just as relevant to mention that about a character assessment of him as it is to mention an affectation for socks or other traits somebody might have.
jh79 wrote: » Exactly but the poster decided to add his belief about creationism into the mix which is a part of his religion. Whether you are a Protestant, Catholic or Scientologist there will be aspects of your beliefs that are ridiculous. Slagging the other side shows a lack of self awareness.
Pogue eile wrote: » What part of his religion is denying climate change? And do all Protestants believe that the earth is only 6000 years old, have to admit that both of these are news to me?
FrancieBrady wrote: » I couldn't care less if he believes we are descended from chestnuts TBH, he deliberately sectarianised the crisis.
jh79 wrote: » I wasn't defending Poots. When it came up on the thread i said the difference was most likely due to poverty. If a Protestant poster followed a stupid remark by a SF member with something along the lines of "sure they believe in Virgin Birth" i would of given a similar reply. Creationism is an aspect of his religion.
FrancieBrady wrote: » What politician is using his/her Roman Catholic beliefs to comment on the spread of Covid?
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