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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Tom Young

This is the new FE1 Exam Thread

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Aoibhin511

EM95 wrote: »

Are you allowed to tab the Companies Act?

Yes, tab and highlight/underline, just not writing

EM95

DUMSURFER wrote: »

It will be physical copies. During the mock run if you leave the page, a timer starts and if your not back before that runs out your exam is over so don't see how that is compatible with using a digital copy when the mock is supposed to be a near 1:1 trail run of the day.

Plus, there's no way they could make people use legislation that isn't tabbed or highlighted, it would be callous considering how time consuming it would be to find the information you need. Some of us who are much slower at typing than writing are already disadvantaged enough with the exam still only being 3 hours and no ability to highlight the questions. Never mind the fact they haven't mentioned it will be digital, knowing people are or have already shelled out money for the physical copies that are required.

Are you allowed to tab the Companies Act?

Hazel774

Fedone wrote: »

Has anyone been in touch with the law society about any other options if we’re not comfortable with the online format? Sorry if I’ve missed it above. Could not wrap my head around not being able to jot down case names on the exam paper or doing out a rough plan before a question in the mock. Does anyone think if enough of us complain they’d have to reconsider going on ahead with this?

I wish, but unfortunately our complaints mean nothing to them, they don't care. The exams start in 12 days and they haven't even told us what time they're on at, if we can use the bathroom, have a drink of water etc...

There's probably not even a point in trying to complain to them about it, considering they ignored a public petition against them last month which got almost 700 signatures (the petition is moot now, but the changes were only made due to their hands being tied with covid restrictions, nothing to do with the impact they were having on candidates). That's effectively them just ignoring 700 complaints

[Deleted User]

People’s careers are on the line here and the LS don’t give a s**t

aisoburke1994

The way I see it - the LS owes us a duty of care to provide this information in a reasonable time frame. Also thanks to all who provided predictions of what topics they think might come up.

Fedone

Has anyone been in touch with the law society about any other options if we’re not comfortable with the online format? Sorry if I’ve missed it above. Could not wrap my head around not being able to jot down case names on the exam paper or doing out a rough plan before a question in the mock. Does anyone think if enough of us complain they’d have to reconsider going on ahead with this?

Samuma

....."no tears left to cry"...

JHalpin

I have just tried to sit that Mock exam. Criminal Law Mock paper, I half answered a few questions as I passed Criminal last year so just spewed out anything I thought was relevant off the top of my head. I found that really quite tough without the ability to hand write some rough work or brain dump some information in order to formulate an answer. Then I leaned on my headphones which I didn't even realise were plugged in and Ariana Grande started blasting out of the earphones and I couldn't figure out where the music was coming from on the laptop and if I tried to click out of the exam page to turn it off it would notify me that I had left the exam and start a countdown timer to come back in..... honestly, Im a bit shaken after that, such a bizarre was to try and sit an exam.

Samuma

Tried the mock. Couldn't do it. Just can't type up an answer without being able to make written notes to refer to. The sticky notes are pointless. They're not the same as written.
I am doing criminal which is considered one of the easier ones to do and apply the law.
I won't have a hope in hell of doing well in constitution without being able to write a plan.

Shame on them for only giving us 2 weeks notice to get used to this completely new way of doing an exam that we have never had to do in our lives.
And shame on them for asking us to give feedback last week with our concerns when they had no intention of taking any of it into consideration.

It looks like i'll be asking for a refund.

Lawlaw12

Hazel774 wrote: »

Has anyone been getting responses to their emails lately?
I've emailed a few different email addresses in the LS in the last few weeks with questions about the exams, and all have been ignored. I genuinely cannot believe how many unanswered questions I still have this close to the start of the exams.

This drip feeding of information is driving me up the wall, any time they try and give us a tiny bit of information I'm just left with a thousand more questions which all go unanswered, I'm so frustrated with them at this point

Same, absolute radio silence from them..
It's so frustrating when we have genuine queries about exams that start in 12 days! They wouldn't have so many emails to respond to if they'd just send us one email with all the exam details in it

Hazel774

Has anyone been getting responses to their emails lately?
I've emailed a few different email addresses in the LS in the last few weeks with questions about the exams, and all have been ignored. I genuinely cannot believe how many unanswered questions I still have this close to the start of the exams.

This drip feeding of information is driving me up the wall, any time they try and give us a tiny bit of information I'm just left with a thousand more questions which all go unanswered, I'm so frustrated with them at this point

bkm2020

Dliodoir2021 wrote: »

And hopefully it's not someone in Arizona we're talking to on live chat that thinks we're in New York (which happened me today)

Serious gaps in the system by the sounds of it...

Dliodoir2021

bkm2020 wrote: »

I'm gone all paranoid about the mock now. I found the system actually fine.. but it is ok to "jump" from one question and come back to it? I seen something about clock on a timer and exiting the page? I would like to be able to log on to the exam again to just double check for myself...

Had a lot of technical difficulty at the start with the system diagnostics. Don't want that on the day but you can live chat for assistance.. another query for the LS to see if this eats into exam time!

And hopefully it's not someone in Arizona we're talking to on live chat that thinks we're in New York (which happened me today)

bkm2020

I'm gone all paranoid about the mock now. I found the system actually fine.. but it is ok to "jump" from one question and come back to it? I seen something about clock on a timer and exiting the page? I would like to be able to log on to the exam again to just double check for myself...

Had a lot of technical difficulty at the start with the system diagnostics. Don't want that on the day but you can live chat for assistance.. another query for the LS to see if this eats into exam time!

arubamuuu

Contract Law

Does anyone have any condensed contract law notes they'd be willing to share? I done one of the prep courses and have been studying for a while but I'm starting to panic and feel like I haven't retained any information. I would really appreciate it!

Fe1Student20

jus_me wrote: »

I phoned the law society yesterday and Carmel said early next week and that we’d receive an email.

Oh that actually sounds promising. Thanks very much for the update!

jus_me

Fe1Student20 wrote: »

Were you told this over the phone? Just not seeing anything on the LS website nor did I receive any email confirmation, unless I'm missing something.

I'm presuming that's how vague they were and they didn't give you anything more than "early next week", which will likely mean Monday eve the week after, the night before Tort.

I phoned the law society yesterday and Carmel said early next week and that we’d receive an email.

Lelila

channing90 wrote: »

Just finished the mock and it seems straight foward, I couldn’t see any place to click for a toilet break except at the start they say go before the exam. Also the inbuilt camera can only see your face while typing, how can they even know it’s the legislation that your looking at since they can’t see that much through the camera.

I thought the same about the camera. My laptop is small so I'm close up to the camera when I'm typing.

Lelila

Lawlaw12 wrote: »

Same for me, but if you use the other 'note' option it lets you move it to the righthand side so it's not blocking the question or answer box

The sticky notes stay on the page of the question you put them on (you can add or remove them using the toolbar on the right, or you can drag them to another position). Whereas the note pad stays at the side of the screen & is still visible when you move from one question to another.

Lawlaw12

Dliodoir2021 wrote: »

They could have the screen that they show us of our face zoomed in a lot to make us think that. It so isn't worth the risk to chance anything though!

I was trying to use the sticky note and found that it kept blocking either the problem question or the answer input box. (I couldn't drag it outside of that area). I went on live chat about it 3 times and the people were based in Arizona, thought I was studying in New York, and said the sticky note thing must be provided by our exam provider (or something along those lines) - either way, they reloaded my exam and each time it didn't rectify it.

So now we have a 'sticky note' that isn't fit for purpose as it covers our question or our work! Unbelievable system!!

Same for me, but if you use the other 'note' option it lets you move it to the righthand side so it's not blocking the question or answer box

Lealaw

Dliodoir2021 wrote: »

They could have the screen that they show us of our face zoomed in a lot to make us think that. It so isn't worth the risk to chance anything though!

I was trying to use the sticky note and found that it kept blocking either the problem question or the answer input box. (I couldn't drag it outside of that area). I went on live chat about it 3 times and the people were based in Arizona, thought I was studying in New York, and said the sticky note thing must be provided by our exam provider (or something along those lines) - either way, they reloaded my exam and each time it didn't rectify it.

So now we have a 'sticky note' that isn't fit for purpose as it covers our question or our work! Unbelievable system!!

There was an option under the sticky note to minimise it. It was annoying me too trying to move it around the screen but the minimise option worked well and just meant that I could pull it up when I needed it! 👍

Dliodoir2021

channing90 wrote: »

Just finished the mock and it seems straight foward, I couldn’t see any place to click for a toilet break except at the start they say go before the exam. Also the inbuilt camera can only see your face while typing, how can they even know it’s the legislation that your looking at since they can’t see that much through the camera.

They could have the screen that they show us of our face zoomed in a lot to make us think that. It so isn't worth the risk to chance anything though!

I was trying to use the sticky note and found that it kept blocking either the problem question or the answer input box. (I couldn't drag it outside of that area). I went on live chat about it 3 times and the people were based in Arizona, thought I was studying in New York, and said the sticky note thing must be provided by our exam provider (or something along those lines) - either way, they reloaded my exam and each time it didn't rectify it.

So now we have a 'sticky note' that isn't fit for purpose as it covers our question or our work! Unbelievable system!!

Iso_123

Hey i was wondering if anyone had any sample company answers? I have some property ones to swap

Samuma

I don't suppose anyone has an up to date criminal grid? My sense is that we kinda need to know everything on the syllabus as questions are so mixed?

Thanks in advance. I can't wait for these to be over. I haven't tried out the mock yet cause it might send me into a complete spin and i'm not mentally prepared yet

channing90

Just finished the mock and it seems straight foward, I couldn’t see any place to click for a toilet break except at the start they say go before the exam. Also the inbuilt camera can only see your face while typing, how can they even know it’s the legislation that your looking at since they can’t see that much through the camera.

Lallers96

Would anyone be kind enough to send me sample answers for Property Law? I'm missing a lot of answers I'm looking for from my batch of them.

DUMSURFER

fe.nofun wrote: »

Anyone know the story with legislative sources? Are we allowed to use physical copies in this exam format or can we use an online form? I have emailed them 3 times and called twice but no response.
Also waiting on my script still... a month after applying for it...

It will be physical copies. During the mock run if you leave the page, a timer starts and if your not back before that runs out your exam is over so don't see how that is compatible with using a digital copy when the mock is supposed to be a near 1:1 trail run of the day.

Plus, there's no way they could make people use legislation that isn't tabbed or highlighted, it would be callous considering how time consuming it would be to find the information you need. Some of us who are much slower at typing than writing are already disadvantaged enough with the exam still only being 3 hours and no ability to highlight the questions. Never mind the fact they haven't mentioned it will be digital, knowing people are or have already shelled out money for the physical copies that are required.

maewest19

Hi, has anyone got an up to date company exam grid? Willing to swap!

Marylaw96

Anyone know what the story is with exam numbers etc ? Or if there will be a live invigilator watching us? Presumed it was going to be like medical exams where students had to show the area they were in to make sure no notes were around but that doesn’t seem to be the case here ? Or was that just for the mock - don’t see how they can police cheating with the way the camera has been set up ?

Lelila

Aoibhin511 wrote: »

Really? what did the icon look like

Not sure what the icon looked like, but I definitely saw 'register a bathroom break' or similar wording. I think it was near the clock. Sorry not to be more exact but I clicked on so many things I can't rember exactly.