Ivefoundgod wrote: Clearly someone in Dublin driving to Bray is going to be turned back and rightly so for taking the absolute piss. However anyone in rural Ireland who's nearest takeaway is outside 5km away should have no issues, which is the point that was being made.
PokeHerKing wrote: So what you're saying is, your interpretation of these ambiguous guidelines is correct and everyone else's is wrong.
First Up wrote: » I'm saying that its the gardai's interpretation that matters.
Ivefoundgod wrote: » Would imagine it would be as simple as showing guard email confirmation from just eat or whatever the case may be.
First Up wrote: » I think the point you are missing is that the onus is one you to justify the journey, not on the garda to disprove it. Making up any old excuse won't be enough. You will have to prove it.
PokeHerKing wrote: Leaving your county as an example is also a bit disingenuous of you but I'd expect nothing less given your posting style on the topic.
John Divney wrote: That’s tyrannical, the Gardai should follow the law, not what they think the law is
First Up wrote: » Thanks for the compliment. I'm as piss*d off about not playing as everyone else. I also know that one of the reasons I can't play is because clowns have been breaking and abusing the travel and other restrictions so much that Level 3 wasn't enough to prevent a thousand new cases a day.
Jordy Fancy Relaxation wrote: It must be some takeaway if it's worth all this hassle
John Divney wrote: That’s not the reason it’s because parents want kids and students back in school. And rightly so, blaming the people is a joke, the Government have had no plan, and to cover that up the destroy the economy with a second lockdown. They are to blame solely, I’m not going to clap along as ten years of austerity and suicide are told are good for us.
First Up wrote: » Total boll*x. The virus is spread by peoples' behaviour. Nothing else.
John Divney wrote: » That’s not the reason it’s because parents want kids and students back in school. And rightly so, blaming the people is a joke, the Government have had no plan, and to cover that up the destroy the economy with a second lockdown. They are to blame solely, I’m not going to clap along as ten years of austerity and suicide are told are good for us.
DeanAustin wrote: » Why are we going around blaming people? It's a crappy situation but it's a government trying to manage a virus which is a fairly exceptional event. Every government in the world pretty much, certainly every government in Europe, is struggling with this pandemic and having to react to changing circumstances. Yes, our lives are being made a bit sh1ttier. No one likes it but it doesn't mean there has to be a scapegoat/bogeyman. It's a freak event. The selfishness and immaturity being displayed throughout this sorry saga is illuminating.
John Divney wrote: The virus always spread in households and never decreases by anywhere near enough in a lockdown. Kids and students are the reason.There will be another lockdown as a result whether people lie down and take the country being destroyed the next time is the only question
First Up wrote: » Would you give Tony Holohan a call and put him straight? The science, tracing data and analysis at his disposal is obviously nothing compared to your gut feeling.
PokeHerKing wrote: Which is correct. Regardless of whether you agree with that or not. I could care less for your input or opinion on anything else.
John Divney wrote: » There hasn’t been selfishness the island is about as docile a bunch of people on earth. There’s been bad policy that will cost us billions and has wrecked the economy for years to come. I guess I’m just ungrateful for that
First Up wrote: » I'm not offering opinions. I'm quoting the government directives. You might look them up.
John Divney wrote: The science is clear, the WHO even said so. They also said lockdowns were only to be used in a last resort. Ask Tony the cost of the lockdown on no virus related medical issues or social issues. Ask him about how much it costs the nation over ten years. There is a reason Tony isn’t the leader of the country, he had a limited scope
PokeHerKing wrote: » You've quoted nothing and offered only opinion. Post up the link it so I can avoid a fine please.
First Up wrote: » Where in the science does it say students and kids are to blame? (Some students probably are, but not while in school). Did I miss your formula for dealing with the virus?
First Up wrote: » https://www.gov.ie/en/campaigns/c36c85-covid-19-coronavirus/
John Divney wrote: » I already said student and children should be in school, they aren’t to blame. The increase in the r number is almost totally to do with it however. When you lockdown households the virus doesn’t decrease to anywhere near the number desired because homes are where it spreads. It’s too late when the virus is in the homes a lockdown is not going to stop it by enough
PokeHerKing wrote: If I asked for a link to a specific golf club would you post a link to halpennygolf.com?
PokeHerKing wrote: I doubt it but then I know you can't link to where it says I can't travel outside 5km for takeaway because it doesn't say it anywhere and I can.
First Up wrote: » Your point eludes me. You asked for a link to the actual directives which I gave you. Does the word "essential" feature in your vocabulary? You say you can; you might find out if a garda agrees with you
CalamariFritti wrote: » Anyway... What do ye all think? Will we be back after 6 weeks? Earlier? Later? And will we have to do the whole 14 minute 2 balls for 3 weeks, then 12 minutes, then whatever yadeeda thing again?
PokeHerKing wrote: They've been allowed to continue to offer these services, the public are allowed to avail of these services and you are not restricted to 5km rule for these services.
