dwayneshintzy wrote: » So...... US citizens should not be allowed to criticise the government if they are immigrants? You seem to be conflating "love of country" with unquestioned love of who's in power, which speak to a very authoritarian sensibility. I'd say ou'd love China.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Not. If some white South African, or white Moldovan, or white Ukrainian (etc etc etc) became a member of congress and then began spewing out the same kind of bile that up-start Omar has, about how the current US administration are fascists, then you can bet your arse Trump would tell them to go back to the countries from whence they came and fix the problems there before returning back and telling him how to run America. Some people said something. It wasn't remotely a racist statement.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » She can say what she likes. Have any opinion she wants. As can the POTUS. Welcome to America. In other news, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to make sure Hunter is doing alright as his life is about to get a whole lot worse if the following is true:https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1318698971729137664 An investigation is going to have to be carried out by Congress on why it is that even though this laptop was in the possession of the FBI for so long, they intially did diddly zip.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Goggked John Posobiec. John Michael Posobiec III (/pəˈsoʊbɪk/ pə-SOH-bik; born December 14, 1985)[1] is an American alt-right[2][3][4] political activist and conspiracy theorist[5] who is considered an Internet troll... Stopped reading.
iebamm2580 wrote: » supposed text messages to joe biden from hunter about underage aspect, if so he should be prosecuted too. Hard to believe it all though.
Scot_in_Dublin wrote: » And if also proven to be real, which isn't impossible, I would also agree. However there does seen to still be a whole lot of uncertainty about if these are real. It still doesn't excuse the fact that a trusted inner circle person of President Trump had all of this data and has only now chosen to share it. If true, it goes way beyond party politics and one upmanship. And you can bet your bottom dollar that the President has known about it ine way or another for some time.
iebamm2580 wrote: » it has been said the emails are true and not part of a Russian disinformation campaign, in all fairness trump cant be blamed for this one. This has nothing to do with trump so i dont agree with having a slight on him in this particular scenario.
Scot_in_Dublin wrote: » So Rudy saying he's had it for almost a year by some accounts, through the entire impeachment process etc and you reckon he was not made aware of it?
iebamm2580 wrote: » im not saying its right if he did know but you are trying to muddy the waters by throwing trump in when he had nothing to do with the criminal situation, this is what i hate about left/right politics. Hunter biden is at fault here simple as, if it was trump at fault i would say the same thing to right wing people if there were somehow trying to blame biden.
Scot_in_Dublin wrote: » Honestly, I'm not. I've been accused of being left wing a few times due to my views of Trump, his presidency and his actions. Hunter is not an angel. He has his issues, and should the underage thing be proven to be true I will be the first person to say yes, indict, prosecute and convict. However as I've said, Rudy is a close confidant of the president, seems to have sat on this for many months and is now just bringing it to light? I don't buy it. And I also, with all respect, do not believe that this information was not discussed with either the President or at the very least his top advisors. If I was Trump, as soon as that info was there I would have made sure it got to the right folks to not only investigate but validate it. Frankly I'm stunned that this has been sitting with them so long, and they only now, 3 weeks before the election decide to bring it all out. And if all of the Hunter stuff is true, it's a sad day when you sit on it, and then use this kind of stuff as your 'win' for not only an election, but life in general.
joseywhales wrote: » And this is why we have a legal system. Allegations mean nothing.
iebamm2580 wrote: » My point is all the focus should be on hunter biden and not political point scoring by somehow bringing trump into this, im not pro trump or biden, its just the way politics is now that facts are twisted to suit narratives, i see it on boards all the time.
joseywhales wrote: » Why should there be any focus on hunter biden? Is he running for office? Also he stands officially accused of, much less convicted of nothing, he is as innocent as you or I as things stand.
iebamm2580 wrote: » The story thats breaking is about hunter biden so yes i would expect all the focus to be on hunter biden. You do know people can talk about allegations too.
Igotadose wrote: » What's the #IMPOTUS's plan?
joseywhales wrote: » Yes but when they come from rudi guiliani the man who said "truth isn't truth" with a clear interest in creating a false narrative about anyone connected to joe biden, I think I'll take it with a grain of salt. Now give me a indictment and I'll start to consider it.
~Rebel~ wrote: » Had a quick glance at the texts Hunter allegedly sent Joe and from reading them the context appeared to me to be that Hunter was retelling what the woman (a former partner i think?) had been saying about him and other girls (presumably underage i guess, though the text doesn't say it), and saying that he was creating an unsafe environment for kids. It seems like Hunter was pissed off with that retelling. He adds that if it stopped there I would have let it go, but then this person said it to his sobriety coach too. So from reading it, it doesn't look like an admission of those things, but more of a denial of them, and being pissed off that they were being said about him and that he intended to take action against those allegations. Who knows if the things this person was saying about him are true or not, but it would I think be difficult to be able to use those texts to show that Joe himself was complicit in those events, as it reads like a denial of those events. And maybe there's more texts that say different, but these are the ones that Rudy actively picked out and shared, so one would imagine these are the most damaging ones he could find.
iebamm2580 wrote: » i wouldnt trust him either but it is alleged that the emails are legitimate and not part of Russian disinformation according to the doj and the fbi so i will trust them, this other underage stuff i find harder to believe and will wait for more info.
vojiwox wrote: » Just like he asked Biden to prove where he was born. It wasn't only Obama and Harris he started the birther stuff with.
Scot_in_Dublin wrote: » When did he do this? I maybe missed it.
