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The Last Of Us 2

Fox Hound

Hey so I have been seeing some stuff on social media that this is going to be officially announced this week?
Anyone know if this is true.....if so I cant wait, I absolutely loved the first game!!!

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johnny_ultimate

I definitely think Naughty Dog, whatever they do next, could benefit massively from shorter games or even episodic ones. Their model doesn’t really work across 20+ hours IMO, and is at its best in shorter form. Of course, perhaps the ultimate solution would be to try something totally different to ‘cinematic third person shooter’, but if they’re sticking with that then their games will suffer dramatically if they continue making them longer and longer.

Zero-Cool

ERG89 wrote: »

I'd love them to do Factions for Last of Us part 2 and maybe a PS5 update for it if it was possible. Maybe something like Left Behind would work but after Part 2 maybe its best to work on a new franchise, a new game with Abby would result in a backlash.

Factions is coming but the fact it's been almost a year since release and not a peep is very strange. They could release a chunky dlc covering the time of Joel and Tommy as Hunters to show why what went around came around but people would probably freak for making Joel look bad (even though that's his backstory).

I think anything they do now would result in backlash but I hope that wouldn't stop them at least trying. The gameplay definitely needs a fresher. I only played through this twice and 2nd time had me just running through because I couldn't be bothered with the encounters. Where as in the first game, I played through multiple times and I loved Survivor difficulty for the extra challenge.

I assume a 1 year anniversary of the next gen versions and Factions is in the books but who knows.

The Raging Bile Duct

ERG89 wrote: »

I'd love them to do Factions for Last of Us part 2 and maybe a PS5 update for it if it was possible. Maybe something like Left Behind would work but after Part 2 maybe its best to work on a new franchise, a new game with Abby would result in a backlash.

Tbf, a backlash from the pathetic menbabies that you see online giving out about that sort of thing should not influence what a company produces.

But I agree with McFly that the core gameplay needs a major revamp. A much shorter game also would have had a greater impact imo.

Frankie5Angels

McFly85 wrote: »

If there is a TLOU3 and it's another road trip going from A to B crafting the same items up against more boring groups, I'll pass and watch the story online.

That's one thing that really grated with me this time around. You'd get to a place and think you were at the next stage but no, you had to go somewhere else which was a very similar journey. That's fine in an open-world game where you can toddle off and do other things along the way, but not in a linear game such as this.

ERG89

I'd love them to do Factions for Last of Us part 2 and maybe a PS5 update for it if it was possible. Maybe something like Left Behind would work but after Part 2 maybe its best to work on a new franchise, a new game with Abby would result in a backlash.

McFly85

I'd be fine with a sequel but the core gameplay needs to evolve. Both games have great moments but the majority of them are just going through waves of uninteresting human groups. Oddly you could see ND were toying with a little more freedom at the start of 2 before reverting back to type.

If there is a TLOU3 and it's another road trip going from A to B crafting the same items up against more boring groups, I'll pass and watch the story online.

Leroy42

Retr0gamer wrote: »

An unnecessary sequel to an unnecessary sequel.

No thanks.

You could say that about any franchise really. But there where would we be?

The video does raise some very good potential plotlines, and it makes a good fist of tying it all together.

It will all depend on the financial success of TLOU2, and the view of whether there is an appetite to go back and face the same criticism about story choices.

They need to take into account that there are very many people that simply are fed up with TLOU2 and won't bother with TLOU3. How much that is is the question.

They certainly need have a complete review of how the decisions were made for TLOU2 and there were many aspects of the game that simply did not work.

The Raging Bile Duct

Retr0gamer wrote: »

An unnecessary sequel to an unnecessary sequel.

No thanks.

But think of all the fuel it would give you for giving out about modern triple A games!

Retr0gamer

An unnecessary sequel to an unnecessary sequel.

No thanks.

Zero-Cool

As much as I enjoyed TLOU 2, I never put much thought into a sequel but after watching this, I kinda hope they do one now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwC4RySc-mI

_CreeD_

Spoiler....ish...

https://youtu.be/5HDZyBreN1E

Zero-Cool

Savage fan art.

https://twitter.com/Naughty_Dog/status/1334950747549528064?s=19

The Phantom Pain

dudeeile wrote: »

Big story spoilers in that latest trailer, I'd be pissed if I had seen that before playing the game.

I've edited my post.

The Raging Bile Duct

dudeeile wrote: »

Big story spoilers in that latest trailer, I'd be pissed if I had seen that before playing the game.

The game's out how long at this stage. If you were that precious about spoilers you should have probably played the game by now.

Retr0gamer

Get those xmas sales in before the game hits the bargain bins.

[Deleted User]

Penn wrote: »

Whats the purpose of the trailer? I presumed there'd be a PS5 upgrade reveal at the end.

Nothing other than to get the game trending during the holiday season

dudeeile

Big story spoilers in that latest trailer, I'd be pissed if I had seen that before playing the game.

jones

Is there any word on the ps5 patch? I finished the game once but want to platinum it but I'll wait for the ps5 version assuming it's coming soon. I'd imagine it'll look the same but in 60fps or else raytrace the thing to within an inch of its life. Either way I'd be happy

Zero-Cool

Penn wrote: »

Whats the purpose of the trailer? I presumed there'd be a PS5 upgrade reveal at the end.

"2 sides to every story" according to Neil but yeah, bit weird. Maybe something gonna be announced for game awards. Eddie Vedder will be playing at it, would be shocked if he doesn't play future days and then a ps5 version announcement of factions news.

Penn

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Whats the purpose of the trailer? I presumed there'd be a PS5 upgrade reveal at the end.

The Phantom Pain

Spoilers in this trailer:

CastorTroy

It did begin to feel like Return of the King.
"Okay so it's over... Nope still going... Now it's over... Nope another bit yet"

Can't remember if I said but I did laugh when they were tasting Dina as being all delicate when

we find out she's pregnant

then later on we see

a fully pregnant Mel running, jumping and climbing better than most non pregnant people

daheadonu

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Mad to think the game was actually a lot longer, especially the ending location which was originally way more open planned. Saying that, on my 2nd run for the platinum, i flew through it on easy. When you don't have to worry about stealth, the combat sections go much quicker so could be they just put in too many action set pieces.

was one of my issues with the game,I eventually just found myself running past mobs when I got too tired of the gameplay loop

Zero-Cool

Mad to think the game was actually a lot longer, especially the ending location which was originally way more open planned. Saying that, on my 2nd run for the platinum, i flew through it on easy. When you don't have to worry about stealth, the combat sections go much quicker so could be they just put in too many action set pieces.

The Iron Giant

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The story was t worth telling over 25 hours and plenty of it was totally inconsequential.

It was in dire need of editing amongst it's other sins.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

In your opinion, which is fine but I doubt the majority would agree.

Retr0gamer

The story was t worth telling over 25 hours and plenty of it was totally inconsequential.

It was in dire need of editing amongst it's other sins.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

The Iron Giant

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Keep your game at 8 to 12 hours if it's an action game. 20 to 50 for a rpg.

That's all they need.

Nah. Not every story can be told in 12 hours. That'd be approximately half the length of TLOU2. We can all agree it was too long but the story wouldn't have worked (for the majority) if that had to be sliced by 50% or 66%.

There's no template. Lengths are relevant to the games.

Retr0gamer

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

That balance between 'Ah, that game was too short, I could have played another 10 hours of that!' and 'Ah, this game is fooking never-ending!!!' seems to be a hard one for game companies to master.

Keep your game at 8 to 12 hours if it's an action game. 20 to 50 for a rpg.

That's all they need.

The Phantom Pain

I also think it depends how you play games. People complain about an open world being too short and then admitting that they skipped all the side quests... To me the side quests in the open world is more important than the main story as it's one of its defining features of an open world otherwise it might as well be a linear game.

I do agree that Uncharted 4, even as my fave Uncharted was too long in the beach sections too.

Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019 is a perfectly paced and lenghted game IMO and I played it on veteran difficulty (as I do all COD games) and yet... people think the campaign is too short. You can't win.

The Raging Bile Duct

That balance between 'Ah, that game was too short, I could have played another 10 hours of that!' and 'Ah, this game is fooking never-ending!!!' seems to be a hard one for game companies to master.