Cyrus wrote: » That’s hardly our issue ? Should they park in private houses around the school? Seems to be what some are advocating live and let live and all that
Sittingpretty wrote: » I think that’s entirely unfair. Personally was trying to ascertain if parents had any other choice but to park in your estate or not.
Sittingpretty wrote: » It is really because if they have somewhere else to park then you have some leverage as a resident. If they don’t then perhaps the onus was upon you when purchasing the home close to a school to take this on board as a possible issue at drop off and collection time.
Cyrus wrote: » What leverage do you need ? They have no right to park here not sure what leverage has to do with anything
Sittingpretty wrote: » You’ve still not answered my question if they have an alternate. It really is relevant to your query if the parents who park in your estate have a choice or not. Owing to your reticence to reply, I can only assume they don’t have another option and you’re being curmudgeonly for no other reason than unwarranted outrage at, all things considered, a very minor inconvenience. Good luck with your clamps, signage, gates and sticking stickers on people’s cars.
Cyrus wrote: » They have options but that’s irrelevant entirely , if someone parked in your driveway and said sorry I had no alternative what would you say ?
Cyrus wrote: » yes they have and i thanked people for them. no need for you to "echo" anyone elses view.
Sittingpretty wrote: » I get that, I have small children myself. I suppose my point was where else does OP expect parents to park to drop off their children. Personally I’d only consider it an inconvenience were cars to block my driveway but that aside it’s a bit of a first world dilemma.
Sittingpretty wrote: » Where should they park then? Is there enough space outside the school?
Cyrus wrote: » I doubt that’s it, we still need a management co, abs annual service charge , a sinking fund and we still need insurance for public liability, having gates would just increase the cost a little.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Why it is now the responsibility of the OP or the management company of this development to provide drop-off parking for parents doing school drop offs? Parents ALWAYS have a choice about where to park. They can ALWAYS find the nearest safe, legal parking spot and walk a bit from there, even if that costs them a couple of minutes on their journey. Better still would be to take the choice to attend the local school so that they'll have the option to walk or cycle instead of blocking up traffic and pumping out toxic fumes just so that little Feekra and Suresha don't have to stretch their legs to get to their classrooms.
Kowerski wrote: » It was a joke. Who in their right mind would actually go and ask to install gates in first place just to block a few mothers
Sittingpretty wrote: » It’s not your driveway. If someone parked in my driveway I’d be furious and rightly so. If someone parked on the pathway outside my house to drop their children to school, being a parent to small children I’d have no issue with that. If they do have other suitable options and are not using them then I’d suggest making a nuisance of yourself every drop off and collection time until you irritate them so much by asking them to leave they’ll eventually not want to encounter you and park where they should be parking. Otherwise I see no legal solution save gates or employing a clamping company and these bring with them their own issues. If it’s a safety issue for children then you could also go the route of speaking with the principal/parents council of the school however, in this instance, my own personal experience is it effects change for a short period and then people revert to the status quo of parking wherever they please. I suppose it all depends on the basis of the resident’s issue and how far they are prepared to go/how much they are willing to pay to resolve it. It really really does depend on whether or not the parents have other options. If they don’t then I’d say you’re fighting a losing battle and it’d be less stressful for residents to accept it as an inconvenience of living in such close proximity to to a school than to pursue a long term response effort.
Hannibal_Smith wrote: » If the road was never going to be taken in charge by the council, then I would imagine it was a condition of the planning permission that a management company be set up? Is the management company still up and running? As someone else said, a Council can take an estate in charge despite what the planning permission says in certain circumstances and if an application is made to them by the residents. But that is a side issue. Parents dropping off school kids is a bug bear of mine and I can completely see where you're coming from OP. At the end of the day, it is not a public road way. Its just a shame you can't get gates. I have seen estates without gates and they have signs up on walls saying No Parking Private Residents only. There's an estate in Ranelagh that comes to mind. Could you ring a clamping company and ask them what their experience /process is and then put it to the Management Company/residents? If the management company isn't up and running properly I'd get that sorted ASAP and get the common areas and roads insured.
Pinoy adventure wrote: » Op I'd hate too live anywhere near you. You sound like a horrible neighbor too even consider clamping somebody's car if they are dropping little johnny or Mary too school. A couple of minutes a day and your out barking. I could only imagine what you would be like if the school parked the school bus there. Would you not consider moving house ???
Cyrus wrote: » Is the path outside your house yours or the councils ? Because if it’s the council your opinion on whether people park on it or not is irrelevant as it’s not your property. I have small kids too and when I take them to school I make sure to park in an appropriate place.
Sittingpretty wrote: » I don’t live in an estate and couldn’t be paid enough to do so. I live in the countryside, there is no path outside my house though, occasionally people park their cars outside my house to walk their dogs in nearby woods. Again I’ve no issue with this. My children attend a country school 20 minutes drive from my house at which I park at the church car park and walk them to the gates. I’m not your problem here. I think you’ve received good advice here. Best of luck.
Cyrus wrote: » If there’s no path outside your house why post and say you don’t mind if someone parks on the path outside your house ? And I never asked if you lived in an estate that’s not relevant .
spyderski wrote: » I’m putting up with a similar attitude from neighbours in a newly built infill estate beside ours. It’s also beside a school. They also want to erect gates and believe their estate is private property when their grant of planning permission explicitly states that the public areas will be take in charge by the local authority. The same local authority as the OP’s who have a policy not to allow gated communities. Seems like a serious case of buyers remorse from property owners who didn’t research their purchase properly. Wonder if it’s the same development we’re talking about?
Sittingpretty wrote: » Because I grew up in an estate, and lived in one throughout my 20’s. So I have experience of living in one. Nothing I or anyone else who thinks you’re being a bit of a Victor Meldrew says here is relevant in your opinion So as I say, best of luck, hope you get your dilemma resolved.
Cyrus wrote: » It’s not sorry to disappoint you. You must have been giddy
