Phoebas wrote: » Seems reasonable. When you've managed to convince enough people with your current strategy, it would be pointless to change things up with 3 weeks to go. Especially when the other guy seems to break everything he touches.
Tell me how wrote: » So says a white male in a western country who hasn't experienced the prejudice of many in society.
If you were around in the 60's you'd have been saying the same thing about the dangers of desegregation. Thankfully, society generally moves in a progressive manner irrespective of the luddites who seek to retain the status quo either through ignorance or outright selfishness stoking a fear that the world they are comfortable with might change.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » How do you know I'm white? I would be speaking about the dangers of desegregation? What the hell are you on about? :P Sure you're not thinking of Joe Biden there, the man who didn't want his children being schooled in a "racial jungle" ? If Trump had said that y'all would never stfu about it but as it's Biden, a sanctimonious lying democrat, he gets a pass of course, as wacism is just really being used as a political tool and not for any genuine reason, otherwise you folk would be all over him for that but the silence from the left, and the mainstream liberal media in the States, is, and always has been, deafening.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » So you don't have an answer then. Truth is he has never encouraged white supremacists and in fact condemned them for decades. But wacism accusations are all the left have, hence them never shutting the fcuk up about them. The fact that when Trump asked Wallace for a white supremacist group to condemn and he instantly named the fcuking Proud Boys, says it all.
Tell me how wrote: » While simultaneously giving an excuse to people at the march to say 'Oh, I'm not a white supremacist, I'm just protesting at the removal of our cultural artefacts'
Pa ElGrande wrote: » They are now wheeling out Obama to stump for Biden, he has been notably absent from the campaign considering he was popular with voters and had a major role in telling the others to stand down in the primary to clear the way for Biden.Obama to hit the campaign trail for Biden in final stretch
Outlaw Pete wrote: » People don't (nor shouldn't) need "an excuse" to protest the removal of Confederate statues and yes those people can of course be fine people or do you believe that's an oxymoron and that anyone who even displays a confederate flag could never be such by virtue of that fact? Are all ancestors of the Confederates (who would like those statues to remain) bad people?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Wether you like it or not these are things that the American people would like answers to, Trump squirming and not answering the questions has now given them their answer.
Deleted User wrote: » He refused to condemn QAnon last night.... It's getting more and more ridiculous.
hetuzozaho wrote: » Yes! And health care is a big one too. And he talked clearly through his plan last night. And to think people think he just Tweets, Golfs and watches TV. I can't see that plan failing.
Tell me how wrote: » No.
Should statues remain just because their descendants like them?
8-10 wrote: » When laypeople defend any politician that staunchly it's clearly down to propaganda This idea of having fans and supporters to this extent should be reserved for sports teams Fully grown adults embarrassing themselves to the point of no longer being able to think for themselves about politics
Tony EH wrote: » Trump may or may not support white supremacists himself, but it's certain that he is desirous of their support, which is why he shuffles uncomfortably when asked about them.
MadYaker wrote: » The Trump campaign in 2016 was a lot more impressive. I didn't agree with anything they were saying but it was clear that the people running it could see where the votes were and Trump was able to target them effectively with his message as a result. I don't know if it's brain drain due to talented people not wanting to hitch their wagon to the trump train or what but its a shadow of his 2016 campaign.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » So you agree with Trump then that some of those there were fine people? It's a numbers question. I believe each State should hold a referendum on such things and anyone that damages a statue in the interim should face the consequences for it.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » So you agree with Trump then that some of those there were fine people?
Deleted User wrote: » He's condemned white supremacists for decades.... Sure thing, Pete
"I hate seeing what it represents. I guess it just shows there's a lot of hostility in this country"
"a bigot, a racist"
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Sorry, is that argument you're making there? Yes, Trump has condemned racism and white supremacists for decades. In 1991 on Larry King when asked about David Duke getting votes off racist whites he said: In 2000 he left the Reform Party when Duke joined and called him: In 2016 he condemned them multiple times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1LBT4Hhq8 Now, I could be wrong, but I believe it's been almost 30 years since 1991.
Deleted User wrote: » Meanwhile, can you name some fine people with the white supremacists and Nazis in Charlottesville? You seem to have ignored me asking it. Also that clip only serves to show that he's entirely inconsistent on it, he's been giving opportunities in past few weeks to condemn white supremacists and he hasn't.
Tell me how wrote: » No. In the position in which he was speaking, splitting hairs to try to suggest some fine people only served to highlight his refusal to denounce everyone entirely associated with white supremacy.
By all means, talk afterwards and say 'There are voices which disagree with white supremacy and abhor the premise of it who also are concerned that we are erasing part of our history and we need to find a way to allow them to speak, along with those who think statues should be removed so that we can have a national conversation about how to move forward' But he didn't do that, because he couldn't, because he either didn't want to or he is incapable for the office he holds. Not separating the two messages, either accidentally, or intentionally, provided white supremacists with a 'legitimate' reason for their protesting. They were his actions, his words, he owns the way they were received.
mcmoustache wrote: » I too would like to know who these good people were who decided that a parade featuring swastikas was the place for them.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » By that logic he was failing to denounce everyone entirely associated with scumbag Antifa as he said there was fine people on their side too.At least you admitted that some people in confederate groups are fine people though, that's a start. Bullshit, he did separate the messages when he clearly said "And I am NOT talking about". Just because people like you refuse to acknowledge that, doesn't mean he didn't do it. Total condemnation is Total condemnation. He didn't say they must kinda be condemned. Total means Total.
Deleted User wrote: » I've asked you before but I'll try again, can you name some of the fine people who marched with the white supremacists and Nazis?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » How do you know I'm white?
TheRepentent wrote: » Educated guess...non whites supporting racist a$$holes would be the exception not the rule.
Silentcorner wrote: » Trump is going to increase his black vote and his hispanic vote.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » And will still lose on November 3rd.
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