dundalkfc10 wrote: » This is not a Sinn Fein thread you sad sad individual. Our Govt IGNORED HEALTH ADVCE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW. You havnt once gave out about them doing that, its just as SF this, SF that 6 counties run the North not just 1. It would be like Blaiming FG for all the issues in the 26 counties, its false and misleading but you have Sinn Fein on the membrane
Kowerski wrote: » Might not be the brighest spark in the night sky. The fact he says "in 1 tweet" and then has a second tweet to explain says it all reallyhttps://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1306573500530995201
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Who the hell is Roman Shortall? Some angry no-mark on Twitter who spends all day giving out about stuff? I’ve never heard of him. His opinions on stuff are about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
McMurphy wrote: » Knew well you would come back on this. Jesus man, have some self awareness. :pac: Check this out. Felipe Fillop. So if isn't being spread in schools, apart from when it is but that it's rare? If there's any vacancies, I think you should be applying yourself blanch.
blanch152 wrote: » Has she given up on keeping the pubs and bookies open while closing the schools?
Kowerski wrote: » I wasn't aware this thread was closed to new posters.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Another new poster who defends Govt about anything. "Strange"
Kowerski wrote: » Might not be the brighest spark in the night skyhttps://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1306573500530995201
smurgen wrote: » I take it that's why 15-24 age category went up 150% and 5-14 went up 200% since schools reopened while all other categories went up only at a max of 50%?https://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1316820733620826119?s=19
blanch152 wrote: » Given that you are struggling to know whose word to take, I will set out the two sides. On the one side, supporting transmission in schools, you have presented a tabloid headlined article from the Irish Independent. On the other sides, are many health experts and reports which all conclude the same thing that transmission in a school setting is very rare, and any cases that do arise usually arise from transmission outside of the school setting. If you are still struggling as to who to believe, there could be a job for you on the Sinn Fein front bench.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Tracing? Our Govt knew better than to have proper testing and tracing set up. March they promised it, October and the tracing is worse than it was in March
blanch152 wrote: » Given that you are struggling to know whose word to take, I will set out the two sides.
blanch152 wrote: » Why do that?The virus isn't being spread in the schools according to all of the medical evidence.
On the one side, supporting transmission in schools, you have presented a tabloid headlined article from the Irish Independent.On the other sides, are many health experts and reports which all conclude the same thing that transmission in a school setting is very rare, and any cases that do arise usually arise from transmission outside of the school setting.
If you are still struggling as to who to believe, there could be a job for you on the Sinn Fein front bench.
smurgen wrote: » Of course because there's so many cases now tracing fell apart.
Kowerski wrote: » Quote: The HPSC says while these outbreaks are associated with school children and or school staff, "transmission of the virus within the school has not necessarily been established".
blanch152 wrote: » Thanks for backing me up on this (epic fail on your part). From your own link: "The HPSC says while these outbreaks are associated with school children and or school staff, "transmission of the virus within the school has not necessarily been established"." Just to back it up further with some international expert evidence:https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/children-and-school-settings-covid-19-transmission "Investigations of cases identified in school settings suggest that child to child transmission in schools is uncommon and not the primary cause of SARS-CoV-2 infection in children whose onset of infection coincides with the period during which they are attending school, particularly in preschools and primary schools."It is notable that it has been Sinn Fein, particularly Michelle O'Neill in the North, who have been loudest in calling for schools to be shut. It shows the value that Sinn Fein put both on education and on medical advice.
McMurphy wrote: » Covid-19 may have spread in school when students swapped desks - briefing hears as 442 new cases and four deaths confirmed As I was saying..... Hard to know whos word to take.
The Covid-19 virus appears to have spread in a school between two children who used to swap desks because one needed to be nearer the blackboard, a HSE briefing was told today. In the case involving the school children the first pupil was infected within their family but the second child who tested positive in the same class was a mystery because there was no evidence of a connection between the two.However, a teacher provided the clue when they said the children swapped desks during one class so that one of the child was nearer the blackboard, The virus may have been passed on through an infected surface on the desk.
McMurphy wrote: » I'll just leave this here so12 school-related virus clusters recorded last week Hard to know whos word to take.
blanch152 wrote: » Why do that? The virus isn't being spread in the schools according to all of the medical evidence.
Twelve school-related Covid-19 clusters were notified to the Health Service Executive over the course of last week, according to data published this evening. It brings to 48 the total number of school child or staff related outbreaks since schools reopened. 47 of those clusters are still active, according to the HSE, with one recorded as "closed".The latest data from the Health Protection Surveillance Centre shows an average of 12 clusters associated with school children and/or school staff emerging per week over the past four weeks
blanch152 wrote: » Why do that? Would you not close the pubs serving food outside and the bookies and the hairdressing before you would close schools? The virus isn't being spread in the schools according to all of the medical evidence.
blanch152 wrote: » Sure he couldn't have said that, could he? I mean, only a few months ago when the medical advice was to go slowly as we moved out of lockdown, the calls from Sinn Fein were to accelerate things getting going, which was against the medical advice. It seems that Sinn Fein are against the medical advice when the government follows it, but for the medical advise when the government rejects it. A load of opportunistic hypocritical illiterate chancers best describes the Sinn Fein front bench.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » OK. Let me explain it in simple terms. Matt was asked what would SF do about covid if they were in power. Matt said they would follow NHPET advice. Presenter said Mary Lou said NHPET advice was wrong last week and we shouldn't go into level 5. Q Matt looking like a deer in the headlights. You can try sidetrack it all you want. Those are the facts.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Yeh thats what happended alright. NHEPT now say we need Level 5 for 6 weeks. Cheers FG/FF and the Greens, we could have been half way through level 5 now if they hadnt of ignored them
Idbatterim wrote: » leave things as they are and see what happends with the household visit reduction... can they stop secondary school for first to fourth years and just allow 5th and 6th years to attend?
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » I did already. Check it out on the SF thread. I can assure you it's not nonsense. But you love to shoot from the hip.
