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Details from the dail on the eCars €10,000,000 expansion programme.

The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2019-01-24/10/?fbclid=IwAR1eGLQjNFuywCoaB__FJADns7gNOD09DaR9XLueHAKZ8vljfd-kL-_LpDs

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AndyBoBandy

eCars today opened a brand new site in Kells. Co. Meath.

1x 150kW unit and 1x 50kW triple head, all capable of charging 4 cars at once...

So what’s wrong with the below photo?

...and you gotta love teh eCars parking.... keep her between the lines eh???

ELM327

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

eCars today opened a brand new site in Kells. Co. Meath.

1x 150kW unit and 1x 50kW triple head, all capable of charging 4 cars at once...

So what’s wrong with the below photo?

Only one CCS plug on the hpc?

pullandbang

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

So what’s wrong with the below photo?

The car has an illegal registration plate

AndyBoBandy

How about 4 cars being able to charge simultaneously, yet there being only 3 spaces........

HUB

MJohnston

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

eCars today opened a brand new site in Kells. Co. Meath.

1x 150kW unit and 1x 50kW triple head, all capable of charging 4 cars at once...

So what’s wrong with the below photo?

...and you gotta love teh eCars parking.... keep her between the lines eh???

I presume the space just to the right of frame isn't reserved as an EV spot?

AndyBoBandy

MJohnston wrote: »

I presume the space just to the right of frame isn't reserved as an EV spot?

Surely if it was, it'd be hatched on the edge like all the other spaces, and the placement of the triple head says it's to serve that space and that space only.....

maybe a Zoe (or other front & centre AC car) could get in and use the AC43 if another car was using the Chademo/CCS on the triple head...

MJohnston

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Surely if it was, it'd be hatched on the edge like all the other spaces, and the placement of the triple head says it's to serve that space and that space only.....

maybe a Zoe (or other front & centre AC car) could get in and use the AC43 if another car was using the Chademo/CCS on the triple head...

I reckon a car with a rear-driver-side charging port could use the AC43 too, maybe even the CCS/Chademo. But if that fourth space is not EV reserved...

But yeah, that's a disaster of small planning choices. They could probably solve it with a repainting of the lines, because IMO the hatching is only needed between every other space, instead of every space.

Remove the hatching between the 2nd and 3rd spaces, shift the 3rd and 4th spaces over, and add hatching between 3rd and 4th spaces (somewhat aligned with the charger).

Black_Knight

MJohnston wrote: »

I reckon a car with a rear-driver-side charging port could use the AC43 too, maybe even the CCS/Chademo. But if that fourth space is not EV reserved...

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I reckon I'd just drive my Ioniq straight into the bay to the right of the triple unit and up onto the foot path. Needs must, and ecars stupidity is not going to be my problem.

Kramer

Black_Knight wrote: »

I reckon I'd just drive my Ioniq straight into the bay to the right of the triple unit and up onto the foot path. Needs must, and ecars stupidity is not going to be my problem.

When charging was free & locals routinely dumped their Leafs (:P), chargers were often inaccessible for rear charging port cars, like the Ioniq.

As you say, needs must....

Black_Knight

Stats I'm pulling suggest the NI units are busiest these days (skewed with lockdown though)

Number of hours a charge point has been in use today:

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Lots of occupied (not charging but plugged in) cars in NI today

Kramer

Black_Knight wrote: »

Lots of occupied (not charging but plugged in) cars in NI today

Before charging & when cpinfo was working, I kept an eye on an SCP which always seemed to have the same Leaf parked & connected.

At one stage, the owner parked up on a Friday evening (after work) & only unplugged 17 days later, after returning from their 2 week foreign holiday :eek:.

City centre location, flat dweller, free parking when connected.

the_amazing_raisin

Kramer wrote: »

When charging was free & locals routinely dumped their Leafs (:P), chargers were often inaccessible for rear charging port cars, like the Ioniq.

As you say, needs must....

I heard a great saying from Bjorn Nyland

"There's no such thing as bad parking at chargers, just badly placed chargers"

Seriously why do they bother marking out the spaces? Just makes ICE cars think it's okay to park there. Hatch the whole area like a yellow box and let the EV drivers figure it out

the_amazing_raisin

Black_Knight wrote: »

Stats I'm pulling suggest the NI units are busiest these days (skewed with lockdown though)

I've noticed there's a few Leaf taxis that seem to do the airport to Dublin run, they were using the charger there a lot back when it was free, I guess they're doing the same still.

the_amazing_raisin

Kramer wrote: »

Before charging & when cpinfo was working, I kept an eye on an SCP which always seemed to have the same Leaf parked & connected.

At one stage, the owner parked up on a Friday evening (after work) & only unplugged 17 days later, after returning from their 2 week foreign holiday :eek:.

City centre location, flat dweller, free parking when connected.

Hey, we can criticise, but we'd probably all do it given the opportunity

Kramer

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Hey, we can criticise, but we'd probably all do it given the opportunity

It was selfish & a big f you, to other EV drivers, who could well have been in need of a charge. We all, collectively, paid for that charge point.

But yeah, make sh1t free here & it will be abused

Black_Knight

Kramer wrote: »

Before charging & when cpinfo was working, I kept an eye on an SCP which always seemed to have the same Leaf parked & connected.

At one stage, the owner parked up on a Friday evening (after work) & only unplugged 17 days later, after returning from their 2 week foreign holiday :eek:.

City centre location, flat dweller, free parking when connected.

Top 4 used scp today are in NI. One plugged in (either charging or occupied) 17 hours in Belfast. Most used paid for unit is cork country hall, and Cork Copley Street. Around 8 hours of use today.

graememk

Black_Knight wrote: »

Top 4 used scp today are in NI. One plugged in (either charging or occupied) 17 hours in Belfast. Most used paid for unit is cork country hall, and Cork Copley Street. Around 8 hours of use today.

Little Victoria street in Belfast?

Black_Knight

graememk wrote: »

Little Victoria street in Belfast?

Didn't spot it, but until I do a bit more digging and refactoring of the code, slow chargers are a bit more difficult to categorise. They'll have a status of AVAILABLE so long as 1 port is not in use. The double head 150kW units will be the same story, so I might have to query per head type to get around that. It would allow me to get stats on the AC43 units too, see how in demand they are.

Right now in terms of SCP I'm really just capturing what SCP are full. Useful though. If a SCP is always full then that's an indicator that that area requires more SCPs. Similar story with FCP, though they're easier to query against.

slave1

Kramer wrote: »

When charging was free & locals routinely dumped their Leafs (:P), chargers were often inaccessible for rear charging port cars, like the Ioniq.

As you say, needs must....

I've had to do that to charge our Model S, no choice as cables way too short

Black_Knight

Now pulling stats on CHAdeMO vs CCS usage. Neck and neck so far this morning. Might be more CSS cars coming online, but who needs/uses the network more?

ELM327

Black_Knight wrote: »

Now pulling stats on CHAdeMO vs CCS usage. Neck and neck so far this morning. Might be more CSS cars coming online, but who needs/uses the network more?

Interesting.
I'd say there's more chademo usage as most CCS cars are newer and have more range.

Also, with my S, I always use Chademo at the 50kW point instead of ccs.

Black_Knight

Oh, also pulling AC43 usage too, for the 7 who used it today.

I'll do a big reveal next week on who fast charge point(s) were not used in 7 days, and what was the most used (NI obviously, but more interesting to see what paid fast charge point was most used).

graememk

Black_Knight wrote: »

Didn't spot it, but until I do a bit more digging and refactoring of the code, slow chargers are a bit more difficult to categorise. They'll have a status of AVAILABLE so long as 1 port is not in use. The double head 150kW units will be the same story, so I might have to query per head type to get around that. It would allow me to get stats on the AC43 units too, see how in demand they are.

Right now in terms of SCP I'm really just capturing what SCP are full. Useful though. If a SCP is always full then that's an indicator that that area requires more SCPs. Similar story with FCP, though they're easier to query against.

Only guessed the little victoria street car park, as really its the only carpark with a charge point close to belfast city centre (other than the tesla destination in castle court), Seen it last xmas when going to the ulster hall, Had an EV ordered but didnt have it at the time, so was more aware of charge points

KCross

I see from eCars presentation in the 2020 EV summit they say that the 2 charger locations where they have 150kW and 50kW units is a hub.

They say they have 4 hubs so far and 3 cars can charge simultaneously.

M3 - Park Ri
M6 - Galway Plaza
M7/M8 - Portlaoise Plaza
M9 - Kilcullen

https://public-e73b2a.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/ESB+eCars+EVSummit2020+Niall+Hogan.pdf

ELM327

Ugh. They are so annoying. 2 units is not a god damn hub.
Are two people a crowd?

graememk

ELM327 wrote: »

Ugh. They are so annoying. 2 units is not a god damn hub.
Are two people a crowd?

If they are from 2 separate households, yep

Although seriously, 4? separate units at least might be a hub,

Hell our local Co Op that has its self service diesel has 3 pumps, and then 1 for kerosene and another for green diesel!

KCross

ELM327 wrote: »

Ugh. They are so annoying. 2 units is not a god damn hub.
Are two people a crowd?

I thought they had said a hub was where 4-8 could charge. These hubs can charge 3 together so they are falling short there but I presume they have the ability and ground works to expand these sites when they become busy.

I've only been to one of them and there was space to add more chargers so hopefully they will expand if the figures show its worth it.

McGiver

KCross wrote: »

I see from eCars presentation in the 2020 EV summit they say that the 2 charger locations where they have 150kW and 50kW units is a hub.

They say they have 4 hubs so far and 3 cars can charge simultaneously.

M3 - Park Ri
M6 - Galway Plaza
M7/M8 - Portlaoise Plaza
M9 - Kilcullen

https://public-e73b2a.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/ESB+eCars+EVSummit2020+Niall+Hogan.pdf

Technically, 4 cars could charge there if the parking layout wasn't designed by a retarded high-school undergraduate.

Triple head - AC43
Triple head - CCS or Chademo 50
150 charge - CCS 75
150 charger - Chademo 75

Black_Knight

98% fast charger availability. Thought that was 99% last time.

#progress

New fast charging options for Galway (clifden?), Mayo (?) and Kerry (Kenmare?). They'll be the slower end ones i'm sure. 40kW.

Kramer

Black_Knight wrote: »

I'll do a big reveal next week on who fast charge point(s) were not used in 7 days, and what was the most used......interesting to see what paid fast charge point was most used).

Most unused, I nominate:

C59B6
Circle K -Topaz Service Station, Sexton Street North, Thomondgate, Limerick City.

I've seen it in use maybe twice, in the last few months :eek:.