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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Tom Young

This is the new FE1 Exam Thread

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Sorry, I'm aware we are in the throws of FE1 season, but due to a server issue, a new thread was required. Old chats and posts below - Thanks!

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maggie95

LS3 wrote: »

Just called and got through to a girl that says they havent finalised details yet but are hoping to have details by end of week early next week at the latest. I asked about invigilators and she said it wont be like that and will be a software we download and basically watches your tabs etc. They still dont sound like they really know whats going on.

Does that mean it'll be open book if there's no invigilators...

dobby896

Hey all, an important and very recent SC case of natural justice/fair procedures below.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/supreme-court/supreme-court-unconstitutional-law-governs-procedure-under-which-citizenship-can-be-revoked-1.4380723

amusicalfrog

Not doing FE1s but know a few here applied for judicial assistant - anybody heard back from them yet? I think it's pretty crazy and poor form how long they're taking to get back to us

Aoibhin511

LS3 wrote: »

Just called and got through to a girl that says they havent finalised details yet but are hoping to have details by end of week early next week at the latest. I asked about invigilators and she said it wont be like that and will be a software we download and basically watches your tabs etc. They still dont sound like they really know whats going on.

FFS first they said by the end of the week, then it became early this week, now that that's been and gone they're saying end of this week or maybe even early next week, are they just going to keep pushing out the date???

But thank you for giving us the update

dobby896

maggie95 wrote: »

Does that mean it'll be open book if there's no invigilators...

If it is open book then I really hope they won't subject us to stricter marking. Obviously, there'll be less leeway for minor error but I sincerely hope they won't be expecting extravagant answers if they'll only be giving us two weeks notice of them being open book.

shaunadennyham

dobby896 wrote: »

If it is open book then I really hope they won't subject us to stricter marking. Obviously, there'll be less leeway for minor error but I sincerely hope they won't be expecting extravagant answers if they'll only be giving us two weeks notice of them being open book.

It’s not open book.

[Deleted User]

I just received an email telling me I have not completed my FE1 application!

I’m not a first time candidate, I applied in September and paid then too! I received an email confirmation of my order from the LS and presumed that was that?!

Am I missing something??? Stressed now!!

Sunflowers8

shaunadennyham wrote: »

It’s not open book.

How do you know? Just wondering if you’ve been talking to the LS

dobby896

shaunadennyham wrote: »

It’s not open book.

Thanks for letting me know.

Hiya1234

Deleted User wrote: »

I just received an email telling me I have not completed my FE1 application!

I’m not a first time candidate, I applied in September and paid then too! I received an email confirmation of my order from the LS and presumed that was that?!

Am I missing something??? Stressed now!!

I got the same email!! From a woman named Fiona??

AlexTG356

LS3 wrote: »

Just called and got through to a girl that says they havent finalised details yet but are hoping to have details by end of week early next week at the latest. I asked about invigilators and she said it wont be like that and will be a software we download and basically watches your tabs etc. They still dont sound like they really know whats going on.

Does that mean it's a typed exam?

Lallers96

LS3 wrote: »

Just called and got through to a girl that says they havent finalised details yet but are hoping to have details by end of week early next week at the latest. I asked about invigilators and she said it wont be like that and will be a software we download and basically watches your tabs etc. They still dont sound like they really know whats going on.

What the f#ck? That's leaving it extremely easy to cheat then. Early this week is what they said, now it's early next week. We are 3 weeks out!!

rightytighty

amusicalfrog wrote: »

Not doing FE1s but know a few here applied for judicial assistant - anybody heard back from them yet? I think it's pretty crazy and poor form how long they're taking to get back to us

Yep I also applied, still haven’t heard anything. Agree it’s crazy, come Friday we interviewed two weeks ago! I expected a quick turnaround too as it was competency based so presumably candidates were given a numerical score? Don’t understand the hold up.

Hiya1234

Lallers96 wrote: »

What the f#ck? That's leaving it extremely easy to cheat then. Early this week is what they said, now it's early next week. We are 3 weeks out!!

From having to type exams on erasmus, you can't cheat as they are aware of what you have open. So they can see what you are doing on your laptop. More effective than having someone watch you on zoom.

Although people could have notes infront of them hahahah nvm

Dliodoir2021

Company law - disqualification

Has it ever appeared? Don't think I've seen it in the papers.

Is it okay to write "co" and "drr" or would this be a big NO no for the exam?

CMUL

I got the same email!!! I had paid and received confirmation of order. She replied to say it was an error. Add it to a long list of incompetency from the Law Society. Its beyond frustrating at this stage.

CMUL

Hiya1234 wrote: »

I got the same email!! From a woman named Fiona??

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I just received an email telling me I have not completed my FE1 application!

I’m not a first time candidate, I applied in September and paid then too! I received an email confirmation of my order from the LS and presumed that was that?!

Am I missing something??? Stressed now!!

Hiya1234

CMUL wrote: »

I got the same email!!! I had paid and received confirmation of order. She replied to say it was an error. Add it to a long list of incompetency from the Law Society. Its beyond frustrating at this stage.

She hasnt replied to me... but I have the confirmation order and it was taken from my bank so I am not worried

[Deleted User]

Hiya1234 wrote: »

She hasnt replied to me... but I have the confirmation order and it was taken from my bank so I am not worried

Yes from Fiona!
The LS stressing us out unnecessarily yet again... *eyeroll*

shaunadennyham

Sunflowers8 wrote: »

How do you know? Just wondering if you’ve been talking to the LS

Paula sheedy from LS confirmed to me that it’s not going to be open book.

bozzer198

They also said that it definitely wouldn't be online...............just saying

WesternC123

They most likely won't say it's open book but if it's not invigilated I don't see how they can monitor whether it is or not

CMUL

LS3 wrote: »

Just called and got through to a girl that says they havent finalised details yet but are hoping to have details by end of week early next week at the latest. I asked about invigilators and she said it wont be like that and will be a software we download and basically watches your tabs etc. They still dont sound like they really know whats going on.

Sounds like its going to be like Kings Inns. If you go into their timetable for this year its gives a lot of info for online exams. Maybe they will use similar

LeagleEagle747

CMUL wrote: »

Sounds like its going to be like Kings Inns. If you go into their timetable for this year its gives a lot of info for online exams. Maybe they will use similar

Reading through the website about the Kings Inn's exams being online it sort of sounds like they're also following the Zoom method.

Would be nice if there was some clarity about how these exams are going to be conducted, even just to make our lives a little bit less stressful in already stressful times. I get this is unprecedented, but the universities, schools, and other educational institutions have managed to sort this out without having their students stressing less than three weeks before the commencement of the examination period.

awsah

LeagleEagle747 wrote: »

Reading through the website about the Kings Inn's exams being online it sort of sounds like they're also following the Zoom method.

Would be nice if there was some clarity about how these exams are going to be conducted, even just to make our lives a little bit less stressful in already stressful times. I get this is unprecedented, but the universities, schools, and other educational institutions have managed to sort this out without having their students stressing less than three weeks before the commencement of the examination period.

you would think if it was the same way they could have released that information already, I would imagine it may not be the same as they were not able to hold they only a couple of weeks ago so they may have to make small changes. They talk on Kings Inn about needing webcams and a minimum wifi speed but they are not giving people enough time to sort these things out, I know web cams were flying off the shelves at the start of the pandemic! Nobody has signed up for online exams so the very least they can do right now is tell us what will be required so that we have ample time to arrange.

LeagleEagle747

awsah wrote: »

you would think if it was the same way they could have released that information already, I would imagine it may not be the same as they were not able to hold they only a couple of weeks ago so they may have to make small changes. They talk on Kings Inn about needing webcams and a minimum wifi speed but they are not giving people enough time to sort these things out, I know web cams were flying off the shelves at the start of the pandemic! Nobody has signed up for online exams so the very least they can do right now is tell us what will be required so that we have ample time to arrange.

Hear! Hear!
Beyond frustrating in all honesty. My wifi should be fast enough but can sometimes be quite temperamental and cuts out so hoping on the day it takes pity on me. I also query why people who have law degrees are still forced to go through the entrance exams both for the bar and Blackhall Place considering we all have to do the core modules that are examined in both schools... It is beyond frustrating at the constant radio silence

BugsySiegel

LeagleEagle747 wrote: »

Hear! Hear!
Beyond frustrating in all honesty. My wifi should be fast enough but can sometimes be quite temperamental and cuts out so hoping on the day it takes pity on me. I also query why people who have law degrees are still forced to go through the entrance exams both for the bar and Blackhall Place considering we all have to do the core modules that are examined in both schools... It is beyond frustrating at the constant radio silence

People seem to be questioning why the FE1s exist at all a lot on this thread recently. I know its a bit off topic but just curious as to whether Im missing something as I always assumed the exams were in place chiefly to generate revenue for the LS. Surely it would be a massive loss of income for the LS if they were scraped.

Aoibhin511

BugsySiegel wrote: »

People seem to be questioning why the FE1s exist at all a lot on this thread recently. I know its a bit off topic but just curious as to whether Im missing something as I always assumed the exams were in place chiefly to generate revenue for the LS. Surely it would be a massive loss of income for the LS if they were scraped.

Honestly though if money is what they're after why don't they just raise the membership fee for qualified solicitors? Like why are they using students/people working part-time or not at all as their little cash cows?

Ianmc97

Aoibhin511 wrote: »

Honestly though if money is what they're after why don't they just raise the membership fee for qualified solicitors? Like why are they using students/people working part-time or not at all as their little cash cows?

It has a second effect of bottlenecking entry into the profession which they also want. demand and supply etc. they can keep a thumb on the scale to a certain degree.

Law20213

Aoibhin511 wrote: »

Honestly though if money is what they're after why don't they just raise the membership fee for qualified solicitors? Like why are they using students/people working part-time or not at all as their little cash cows?

Don’t forget the price of the prep schools/courses that benefit dearly from reteaching us the same subjects we’ve already studied and passed in college. It’s really unjust system.