blanch152 wrote: » Ask a teacher? I am on a Board of Management dealing with it. I have two family members who are principals of schools. I have one child in school. Read the article I posted, schools are not the source of transmission. We have had cases in the school I am involved with. Every single one of them was contracted outside the school environment and none of them resulted in onward transmission in the school. Once the school does things right, both teachers and pupils are safe. As for the colleges, students would be better off sitting in lecture theatres one or two metres apart than spending their days having house parties.
Nobotty wrote: » Bulsh1t There are many schools at the moment with 100s of 5th 6th and transition year students out awaiting tests Ask a teacher if you know one Its no coincidence that the latest surges coincided with schools and colleges opening If you want to talk to panderer's go look at the Dublin government and specifically FF who think not closing schools for an extra week is more important than a circuit break Basically they are putting their own ego ahead of health Its going to be an even more embarrassing u turn later if they've to close them longer Martin should cop on
Bishop of hope wrote: » Another lad that thinks it's all Leo's fault! And given your comment ré how the assembly works, apparently you know damn all yourself on how govt works.
grayzer75 wrote: » The chief medical officer has, it's just that SF listened to him unlike Leo The Liar....
blanch152 wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1014/1171411-coronavirus-northern-ireland/ "She said she supported moves to close schools for two weeks and did so with a heavy heart given the "unfortunate situation"." Sinn Fein have led the charge on that particular measure.
blanch152 wrote: » No, we should not be extending our mid term break from 1 to 2 weeks. There is no evidence that schools are a major factor in transmission.https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/facts/questions-answers-school-transmission The NI measure is Sinn Fein pandering to populist mistaken fears.
grayzer75 wrote: » Do you not know how the assembly works? All parties decide and implement the measures not just one party ffs.
Nobotty wrote: » I think that's not what he meant Parts of Antrim are not too far as free of this as the extreme SE but Belfast trumps that An all island approach does not mean the same restrictions everywhere It means appropriate restrictions available island wide We probably should be extending our mid term break from 1 to 2 weeks aswell for example Thats a circuit break based on the same science as a 2 week quarantine as long as its in tandem with the other restrictions announced over in the north
Nobotty wrote: » Its not less Pubs in the south are still serving ,many at night in tents The doors of these tents are closed and as someone said to me,this must be to keep the heat in and the virus out...
ednwireland wrote: » thing is donegal had it lowest cases yesterday since 27/09, our 14 day rates are obviously massive at the moment and one days numbers does not a summer make. but i have seen a massive reduction in general traffic, northern traffic and rest of the country traffic in the last 10 days. i think a lot of that happened with the country wide level 3 before that the level 3 here was basically a waste of time. but i am sick of SF playing politics im not sure what MLM is advocating when the new NI lockdown appears to be less than what we are doing in level 3
FrancieBrady wrote: » It was me. Seriously...you gonna get into a **** load of pedantic nonsense? We need an all island approach to pandemics and threats to our health and food security - agree or disagree? We wouldn't be faced with this issue today if we had one from the start.
Bishop of hope wrote: » Mary-Lou on morning Ireland seems, in favour of just that approach. She said including border counties in such a move restriction wise seems to be a good approach. And turning every policy into a UI debate is just a ridiculous old strawman attitude.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » So places like Waterford should be subject to the same restrictions as Derry?
Bishop of hope wrote: » "Moving the border further south is not a solution now as it wasn't a solution making 3, 6 or 9 counties a separate state a 100 years ago." So that wasn't you?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Em...nor did I. We need an all island approach.
Bishop of hope wrote: » The Dublin Central TD said to control community transmission in border areas where "they are essentially one community" it is necessary to take increased actions. And she didn't say we need a UI to get rid of covid.
FrancieBrady wrote: » And what else did she say? That in the absence of an all island approach ....other ways HAD to be looked at.
Bishop of hope wrote: » Mary-Lou on morning Ireland seems, in favour of just that approach. She said including border counties in such a move restriction wise seems to be a good approach.
FrancieBrady wrote: » :D Says the poster engaging in a macabre competition since the start. Moving the border further south is not a solution now as it wasn't a solution making 3, 6 or 9 counties a separate state a 100 years ago. It is the very essence of kick the can down the road political expediency.
blanch152 wrote: » Excuses for the inaction of politicians - partition made me do it. What nonsense, once again trying to make political capital out of people getting sick and dying when the real reason is politicians incapable of making decisions. .
blanch152 wrote: » The one thing that everybody is now saying is that widespread lockdowns and similar positions across every situation is not the correct way to do things. Norway are showing that localised solutions prove the best way to contain the virus. Our county-by-county approach may even need further localisation. It is now clear that political objectives are the only thing driving the Sinn Fein response on this. Calling for an all-island approach when all the science is pointing the other way is just political expediency. At the same time, they are criticising the government for balancing public health and economic issues. More proof that Sinn Fein are not a normal party.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Who said they take their instructions from Boris? Several of the 5 partners in the executive wish to take instructions from Boris is what has been said. That s what has made securing the health of this island so difficult. The incidence of the virus in the north is down to this divisiveness and the failure of the state it has caused.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Leo on radio this morning essentially saying that it's not that they want to close the border they just want to move it south, cede Cavan Monagahn and Donegal and hope to contain it. Lunacy again...an all island solution is the only way.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » We were told sinn fein have no say on how they handle the coronavirus by people here because they take their instructions from Boris but now they can call a lockdown all of a sudden. Which one is it?? Have they more say than we're led to believe in other things like health homelessness etc that were told us out of their control? Has this shown how badly they have handled the pandemic?