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Apple Event - October 13th 2020

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Apple event just announced for October. Almost certain to be new iPhones released at this one after the no show at last months event.

Other rumours point to Apple's AirTags, new ARM Macs, macOS 11 Big Sur release date and hopefully a few surprises.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR0g-1hnQPA

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Gregor Samsa

murpho999 wrote: »

Do people only buy Apple products?

They may have USB C from other products in the house.

When I think about Apple are not first with this.
I bought Sony BT headphones last year. Came with USB-C cable only.

Was no problem as I could use laptop and I had an Anker fast charger with 2 USB slots, one of them being a C.

I really don't think it's a big deal except that they have not reflectedit in the price as headphones not included as well.

Wireless charging is also an option which was a must have feature and the "future" a couple of years ago.

If people really need a plug they can pick one up cheap enough.

Exactly. You can also easily and cheaply get a USB A to USB C cable if you want to continue using the legacy plugs you might have.

Creamy Goodness

whilst I think it's great that they're out of the box and there are environmental plusses to it I think they could have sold it better.

yep there's 700m lightning headphones out there (they only came out with the iPhone 7 range), and yup most people don't use them.

the charging brick is a bit of a sore one, since all of the 12 lineup will come with USB-C its kinda teasing people "Use your old brick and cable" but only at 5w lol. or buy this expensive brick from us. I really think they should have discounted the bricks further. Apple for far too long have been stingy with the supplied brick when the iPhone could charge at higher rates for ages.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if they had USB-C bricks for 1-2 more years than they did (especially on the lower end phones) it would sit better with me, but they sold a lot of iPhone 11's last year that didn't come with USB-C bricks and when those people come to upgrade they'll be hit with an unnecessary expense (where the "use your old brick and charger" argument might not hold up).

pad199207

murpho999 wrote: »

You're making the 12 sound like a poor phone it's not.

Personally, I think it's beter than the PRO as it all has extra is an extra camera and some functionality and different colours.

Everything else is pretty much the same.

No I’m not saying it’s a poor phone I suppose I’m just comparing to the starting price of the iPhone 11 last year.

murpho999

shanec1928 wrote: »

no unless you have bought a fairly newish ipad or a macbook

Do people only buy Apple products?

They may have USB C from other products in the house.

When I think about Apple, they are not first with this.
I bought Sony BT headphones last year. Came with USB-C cable only.

Was no problem as I could use laptop and I had an Anker fast charger with 2 USB slots, one of them being a C.

I really don't think it's a big deal except that they have not reflectedit in the price as headphones not included as well.

Wireless charging is also an option which was a must have feature and the "future" a couple of years ago.

If people really need a plug they can pick one up cheap enough.

murpho999

pad199207 wrote: »

€913 for the base iPhone 12. Extortionate. You’d probably better off giving the extra few bob for the pro.

You're making the 12 sound like a poor phone it's not.

Personally, I think it's beter than the PRO as it all has extra is an extra camera and some functionality and different colours.

Everything else is pretty much the same.

Marty Bird

pad199207 wrote: »

Apple giving €390 for a 11 Pro Max 64GB on trade in against 12 pro max.

That’s a terrible price you would get more on a private sale

pad199207

Apple giving €390 for a 11 Pro Max 64GB on trade in against 12 pro max.

Gumbo

adox wrote: »

I kinda get the that most people already have a charger but aren't all these new 12 models lightening to USB-C? If so, are there any previous models that shipped with a USB-C power brick?

If not, then it's pretty sneaky.

It comes with the cable though doesn’t it?
Just not the 3 pin brick.

FourFourRED

shanec1928 wrote: »

no unless you have bought a fairly newish ipad or a macbook

The iPhone 11 Pro models came with a USB-C power adapter

Creamy Goodness

2011 wrote: »

My thoughts:

- It is not a "new" design, it is the iPhone 5 shape again
- I like this look.
- Only incremental improvements
- 5G will not be available to many in ireland for a long time
- Stronger glass is the best new feature
- I think they are justified in not providing a charger or headphones
- I would rather thicker with more battery life than thinner. What is the obsession with making a thin phone thinner?
- I will not upgrade for at least 6 months. I may get a second hand one then.
- I would go for the Homepod but I have already bought into the Google ecosystem

There’s really only two designs you can have for the physical structure of a phone now, the curved soap bar edges or flat edges. Different lies in materials used and how you arrange the cameras and physical buttons.

Whilst is reminiscent of the iPhone 4 and 5 era it is somewhat new. The 4 and 5 had huge chonky glass for the front and back, this looks to be completely flush, that would have taken a good amount of R&D to get that right and to get it right in the numbers apple sell.

5g is enabled on Vodafone, Three and Eir. They all have 5g plans. That’s the three biggest operators that all have 5g. It’s available to practically every one in the country.

iPhones since the 7/8 line have gotten thicker the X, XS, 11 pro were all thicker than the previous. I for one welcome thin and light again, the 11 pro is a bit of the heavy side.

shanec1928

adox wrote: »

I kinda get the that most people already have a charger but aren't all these new 12 models lightening to USB-C? If so, are there any previous models that shipped with a USB-C power brick?

If not, then it's pretty sneaky.

no unless you have bought a fairly newish ipad or a macbook

adox

I kinda get the that most people already have a charger but aren't all these new 12 models lightening to USB-C? If so, are there any previous models that shipped with a USB-C power brick?

If not, then it's pretty sneaky.

2011

My thoughts:

- It is not a "new" design, it is the iPhone 5 shape again
- I like this look.
- Only incremental improvements
- 5G will not be available to many in ireland for a long time
- Stronger glass is the best new feature
- I think they are justified in not providing a charger or headphones
- I would rather thicker with more battery life than thinner. What is the obsession with making a thin phone thinner?
- I will not upgrade for at least 6 months. I may get a second hand one then.
- I would go for the Homepod but I have already bought into the Google ecosystem

meath4sam

Looking to replace my 8 with a new unlocked se or x, will there be a price drop on them due to 12 release? Would it be worth waiting a few weeks.

Gekko

I had been planning to get the Pro but I see the Pro Max is the same size as my 8 Plus, so I will get that I think

Will have to see how the numbers stack up comparing cost of an Eir upgrade to going sim only and getting it sim free

[Deleted User]

Someone said the 12 and 12 pro are the same except for the 3rd camera on the pro? Would ram and battery is the exact same?

HairySalmon

What’s the story with the leather cases, will they be Pro-only?

The 12 and the Pro are identical in specs, expect for maybe the camera square. Wonder should I just go for a silicone case with the 12 or wait for the 6th of November to see if they’re compatible or not.

Edit: Never mind, they’re fully compatible

HairySalmon

pad199207 wrote: »

€913 for the base iPhone 12. Extortionate. You’d probably better off giving the extra few bob for the pro.

Coming from the X, the OLED screen was the only think making the Pro attractive, and now that’s gone.

Finding it difficult to see the worth in the Pro over the 12 tbh

pad199207

€913 for the base iPhone 12. Extortionate. You’d probably better off giving the extra few bob for the pro.

Creamy Goodness

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How much would you save if you bought from the UK?

You’ll save nothing as the HomePod range of devices aren’t available here.

I would only order them from the uk as they use the same plug type as us. And yes I’m well aware you can use adapters but they’re often unslightly and I’d rather pay the small bit extra to have 3pin plugs.

[Deleted User]

murpho999 wrote: »

€3.85 with DPD

How much would you save if you bought from the UK?

Gumbo

murpho999 wrote: »

€3.85 with DPD

Could have done with this info earlier. Ordered fire stick in prime sale. They only deliver to uk so had to use PM.

Think I’ll register with DPD now.

Gregor Samsa

TXPTGR1 wrote: »

I’d semi believe this given the garbled rubbish Siri transcribes into notes etc any time I use it
But don’t care about that would just love a decent mini speaker that works seamlessly with my phone

Well, I don’t have one myself, but anyone I’ve heard says that the HomePod works perfectly well here. I might get a HP Mini.

murpho999

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Why do you think that both Apple TV Siri and HomePod are only available in a very limited number of countries?

Edit: here’s the original source for the above article: https://www.macprime.ch/a/news/warum-apple-tv-in-der-schweiz-noch-kein-siri-hat (in German, you’ll need to translate). No direct quotes from their alleged Apple source, so no more convincing than the other article, but I’ve yet to hear an alternative explanation that makes more sense.

I don't have an Apple TV nor ever will so I haven't really thought about it.

It's strange that Siri is enabled on Phones and iPads but not the TV.

Sure all countries not just Ireland would offer up problems due to regional accents.
After all look at the UK. A person in Glasgow practically speaks another language when compared to a Londoner but it all works there.

murpho999

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

You can also set ParcelMotel to deliver to your house (or any other address) instead of the drop box (although it’s €7.95).

€3.85 with DPD

TXPTGR1

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Why do you think that both Apple TV Siri and HomePod are only available in a very limited number of countries?

Edit: here’s the original source for the above article: https://www.macprime.ch/a/news/warum-apple-tv-in-der-schweiz-noch-kein-siri-hat (in German, you’ll need to translate). No direct quotes from their alleged Apple source, so no more convincing than the other article, but I’ve yet to hear an alternative explanation that makes more sense.

I’d semi believe this given the garbled rubbish Siri transcribes into notes etc any time I use it
But don’t care about that would just love a decent mini speaker that works seamlessly with my phone

Gregor Samsa

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Ah. Not sure I want to chance it.

You can also set ParcelMotel to deliver to your house (or any other address) instead of the drop box (although it’s €7.95).

Gumbo

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Ah. Not sure I want to chance it.

I’ve gotten 2 iPhones delivered through it. You can up the insurance temp so fully covered.

murpho999

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Ah. Not sure I want to chance it.

It's safe enough and you can get insurance. Also, try DPD Wizard like I mentioned in other post.

murpho999

Gumbo wrote: »

Parcel Motel

Try DPD Parcel Wizard, deliver to any address for €3.85.:P

https://www.dpdparcelwizard.ie/HomePage#/