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Mech1

Following on from my last thread in here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058118251

Would this list work ok for a basic but upgradable gaming system for my son?
I can add in my old SSD's and operating system, monitor etc.

Many thanks for any advise, budget can go to €1100 if ness.

Screenshot_2020-10-05 Amazon co uk Shopping Basket by pat, on Flickr

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K.O.Kiki

Mech1 wrote: »

Ok just got confirmation of Nov 25th for a AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler .
as soon as i can afford and it comes available im buying a AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600X Graphics card hopefully before Christmas.

Any obvious problems you can see swapping out my AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600XT Processor (6C/12T, 35MB Cache, Up to 4.5 GHz Max Boost) – With Wraith Spire Cooler
and my PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT Red Devil 8GB GDDR6 HDMI/3xDP

Should it just be a straight swapout?

You'll need to update the BIOS before swapping CPU so that it can support 5600X.

For Graphics card upgrades, safest is always to download DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) and remove the current drivers; then shut down & change GPU.

Mech1

Remember I came from this PC just over a month ago!
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058118251

Mech1

Ok just got confirmation of Nov 25th for a AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler .
as soon as i can afford and it comes available im buying a AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600X Graphics card hopefully before Christmas.

Any obvious problems you can see swapping out my AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600XT Processor (6C/12T, 35MB Cache, Up to 4.5 GHz Max Boost) – With Wraith Spire Cooler
and my PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT Red Devil 8GB GDDR6 HDMI/3xDP

Should it just be a straight swapout?

Mech1

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OP here, eventually got it all sorted
Thanks for the help.

BloodBath

That was my reason. Card only has 1 hdmi port and I connect the PC to the TV sometimes that needs HDMI. My second monitor is an older 1080p panel that needs hdmi as well. Gonna be getting a good 1440p/144hz as main panel soon, probably a GL850 if the prices ever get back close to £400, with the 90hz 1440p becoming secondary and selling the 1080p one.

Homelander

What is the need for DP though in this case? The included HDMI will do 1440p 144hz, unless I suppose you wanted to connect a 2nd display via the HDMI.

BloodBath

Mech1 wrote: »

I dont wanna talk about it, check the pics.

I hope it's a 1.4 at least for that price. I ordered one on Amazon for €7 that I though was 1.4 but it turns out it's only 1.2. Fine for my 90hz 2560x1400 monitor although it won't do 10bit FRC colour which the hdmi did do.

It did fix some of the issues that I thought the gpu/driver was causing though like not turning back on properly.

[Deleted User]

Mech1 wrote: »

I dont wanna talk about it, check the pics.

Was there not a DP cable in with your monitor? There usually is.

Mech1

Inquitus wrote: »

How much did Harvey Norman fleece you for the Display Port cable?

I dont wanna talk about it, check the pics.

[Deleted User]

Mech1 wrote: »

Budget really blown now.

Logitech Z333 speakers
Corsair M65 RGB ELITE Mouse
Corsair K55 RGB keyboard
Razer Nari Wireless Gaming Headset.

And my Memory arrived today, just waiting on the case and PSU.

Go big or go home. Fair play. Enjoy it.

Inquitus

How much did Harvey Norman fleece you for the Display Port cable?

Mech1

Budget really blown now.

Logitech Z333 speakers
Corsair M65 RGB ELITE Mouse
Corsair K55 RGB keyboard
Razer Nari Wireless Gaming Headset.

And my Memory arrived today, just waiting on the case and PSU.

20201013_160042 by pat, on Flickr

Mech1

Anyone looking for a Wraith Spire non RGB AMD cooler I have one going cheap!!!

Mech1

Just waiting on case, memory and power supply all have been shipped, so hopefully a weekend build coming!!

Mech1

Some good stuff arrived by pat, on Flickr

Some good stuff has arrived.
Cpu came with a spire non RGB so I grabbed a Prism off Adverts this afternoon, thats whats in the other Ryzen9 box. I also picked up a couple extra ssd's.

GHOST MGG

GHOST MGG wrote: »

if you click on the spec sheet for the monitor on harvey norman it cleary states resolution is 1600x1200,maybe a mistake?

I checked amazon and that model is indeed 2560x1440..Sorry i knew i should not rely on a spec sheet from harvey normans

Mech1

QHD (2560 x 1440) display on the box.

Squidgy Black

GHOST MGG wrote: »

Monitor resolution is only 1600 x 1200 so thats pretty terrible

I like this monitor https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Odyssey-LC32G55TQWUXEN-Curved-Monitor/dp/B08C7S79DT/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=1440p+144hz+monitor&qid=1602441964&sr=8-7

Its a pretty decent widescreen 1440p 144hz and should be fine with a 5700xt and a 3600 which you quoted above

It's not it's 1440p 2560x1440.

The Samsung is a better buy though, the HP is a TN panel vs VA for the Samsung.

Although I'd recommend spending the bit extra and looking at something like the Asus TUF https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07VW9ZD6Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pv1GFbCF2D403 which is an IPS panel

GHOST MGG

Mech1 wrote: »

Any opinions on the Monitor? https://www.harveynorman.ie/computing/computer-accessories/lcd-monitors/hp-27xq-27-144hz-quad-hd-gaming-monitor-3wl54aa.html
Not opened yet, max budget 450

Monitor resolution is only 1600 x 1200 so thats pretty terrible

I like this monitor https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Odyssey-LC32G55TQWUXEN-Curved-Monitor/dp/B08C7S79DT/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=1440p+144hz+monitor&qid=1602441964&sr=8-7

Its a pretty decent widescreen 1440p 144hz and should be fine with a 5700xt and a 3600 which you quoted above

Mech1

Any opinions on the Monitor? https://www.harveynorman.ie/computing/computer-accessories/lcd-monitors/hp-27xq-27-144hz-quad-hd-gaming-monitor-3wl54aa.html
Not opened yet, max budget 450

Squidgy Black

Mech1 wrote: »

All comments welcome, good or bad, its ordered now so I have to live with it when it gets here, or if im way off on a component I could return and rebuy something else.

Nah that's a very decent build. Worst case scenario if you see any of the newer components that get released (like the new AMD GPUs or CPUs) that become available by the end of the year, Amazon have extended their return periods until the end of January so you could always swap them out if you really wanted to.

Mech1

All comments welcome, good or bad, its ordered now so I have to live with it when it gets here, or if im way off on a component I could return and rebuy something else.

Mech1

I know its the wrong time to buy!!! But it has to happen at sometime, so we cant all hold back.

Mech1

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€325.98 @ Currys PC World)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€207.32 @ Custompc)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Video Card
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case (€136.51 @ Custompc)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€104.99 @ Currys PC World)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Monitor: HP 27xq 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor
Total: €774.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-11 16:21 IST+0100

A few changes to that list.
No operating system needed,
Some prices not available,
Bought it all from Amazon except monitor, picked that up yesterday in HN.

Screenshot_2020-10-11 Your Orders by pat, on Flickr

Mech1

OP here, my budget got thrown out the window when I spoke to my elder son. He is paying 50%. New list on the way.

The Mulk

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I'd buy the GPU from Amazon, not Ebuyer.

Thanks, I'll aim to buy everything from Amazon, there's very little in the price difference over all

K.O.Kiki

I'd buy the GPU from Amazon, not Ebuyer.

The Mulk

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£179.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£99.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£68.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Red Devil Video Card (£283.48 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£55.97 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £844.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-07 11:49 BST+0100"]PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£179.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£99.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£68.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Red Devil Video Card (£283.48 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£55.97 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £844.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I think that captures all the comments and suggestions so far.

Comment on the Video Card?

Squidgy Black

I had the wraith stealth on my 3600 very briefly, found it to be brutal under load to be honest. For the sake of 30 quid I'd get the 212 black.

K.O.Kiki

The Mulk wrote: »

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Stum78/saved/

You need to click the BB button to share your parts list, like so:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£179.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£100.14 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£59.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£61.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB GAMING OC Video Card (£222.06 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Antec GX202 ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.18 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: KOLINK ENCLAVE 700 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£81.47 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £783.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-07 11:37 BST+0100

Can someone have a look at my list, it's for my son (12) for gaming and school work.
He's picked the parts through some Youtube research and wants to build it himself.
Are there any improvements/changes needed?
Are all parts essential?

Thanks in advance.

I have made following changes (with current prices):
CPU cooler: Hyper 212 Evo -> Hyper 212 Black; it's a revision with a better, quieter fan.
Motherboard: B450 -> B550; better future-proofing & VRM.
Storage: WD SN550 is an NVMe model
Video Card: Gigabyte offers a zero-dB (fan stop) feature, MSI Ventus doesn't.
Case: personal preference, but I would take Antec GX202, MSI MAG Forge 100 or Fractal Design Focus G/Meshify for their superior thermals due to the mesh front.
Power supply: Kolink Enclave is a good budget "overkill" PSU.

OR AS YOU'VE FIGURED
drop the CPU cooler & add RX 5600 XT.