schmittel wrote: » Yes, the commuter belt will become much bigger.
Hubertj wrote: » Interesting to understand Irish rails plans medium term. If I was moving to commuter belt I would like to have rail to rely on besides driving only.
schmittel wrote: » Plenty of options available:
Hubertj wrote: » I meant improvement to services - frequency, capacity, reliability. A service to serve the people. I don’t think that happens now.
schmittel wrote: » Where I live is now prime commuter belt. Relatively recently it was Dublin hinterland. As population of Dublin grew, and people were priced out of that market, commuters began to move here in large numbers. One of the attractions was the Inter City train, which ran to Dublin, albeit infrequently, but it was an existing option. And guess what happened? As more people moved here, Irish Rail improved the service - frequency, capacity and reliability, and ultimately they extended the Dart line. So we've gone from hinterland to prime commuter belt in a relatively short space of time. This all happened when neither the management culture nor the technology existed to make WFH an option. That map shows that the infrastructure and services are already in place. It is fairly simple to improve them as demand warrants it.
Cyrus wrote: » Presume you mean Greystones , which is lovely I have to say but now effectively trades at south county Dublin prices. As I said before if people move out prices in those locations will rise to meet them. Greystones is being over developed now as well it seems (not sure how the locals see it but to me there seems to be an awful lot of new development)
combat14 wrote: » any educated guesses what will happen the economy and property market here the next 6 months if there is an extended winter lock down which seems to be on the cards ..
Hubertj wrote: » That’s true but compare to Kildare. I believe trains have been overcrowded for a couple of years and it will be another couple before capacity etc is expanded. Add in more people moving out of city.....
Cyrus wrote: » Which cards are these ?
Timing belt wrote: » What you are talking about is outsourcing work to a different country which is very different to WFH.
Danzy wrote: » They may end up as the one though.
Graham wrote: » Confirmation bias; coined by English psychologist Peter Wason, is the tendency of people to favour information that confirms or strengthens their beliefs or values, and is difficult to dislodge once affirmed. Confirmation bias is an example of a cognitive bias, and also of the tendency to mistakenly perceive connections and meaning between unrelated things, termed apophenia. Some psychologists restrict the term confirmation bias to selective collection of evidence that supports what one already believes while ignoring or rejecting evidence that supports a different conclusion.
schmittel wrote: » Yes, Greystones. And yes I think it is fair to say locals see it as being over developed!
TheSheriff wrote: » We viewed a few places two sunny weekends last summer in greystones. It looks like a lovely place to live, but last year we found it as expensive (if not more) thank some areas of Dublin we were looking at. Particularly the Charlesland development, it was difficult enough to find something reasonable back then.
awec wrote: » How? I mean, it's certainly an option for some, maybe even an option for many, but "no brainer" is obviously nonsense. It's something that needs to be carefully considered.
The Spider wrote: » I take it you’re from Dublin? Newsflash 95% of people from the country, or outside Dublin, are literally only there for jobs, most of them would be gone in a heartbeat if they could but are stuck there because of work. WFH will allow people to get out and have a decent quality of life, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you’d need 150 grand a year in Dublin to have the same lifestyle you’d have in Waterford or Kilkenny on 55 grand, so in that sense it’s an absolute no brainer to get out of Dublin
VegggieMonster wrote: » Yes, agree. If we could fork out 500k for a new build we would most likely move there or to Delgany we want to be careful not to spend most of the savings on deposit hence the idea of moving further out if wfh allows it. While there is always a risk of 'what if I ever need to change the job' but if you do like your job, work for a decent company and you get option for WFH, chances are we will see some change in terms of demand growing in some more rural places. Even if this increases prices in those areas, the land is much cheaper there compared to Dublin. Let us see what 2021 brings, so we don't have to guess anymore.
schmittel wrote: » Would you be tempted by Wicklow town if the same house was 350k as opposed to 500k?
awec wrote: » I’m not from Dublin, no. Your 95% number is nonsense. You can’t have the same lifestyle in Waterford or Kilkenny compared to Dublin. What a daft notion. It’s a completely different lifestyle, that’s the whole point.
The Spider wrote: » Ok I’ll bite explain to me the different lifetstyle you can have in Dublin vs Waterford vs Kilkenny, and let’s leave concerts out of it, for the amount of time the average person goes to them, oh and covid has probably put an end to them either way. So let’s go what are the things you can do in Dublin that you can’t do in Waterford?
schmittel wrote: » I've seen it cited as most expensive place outside Dublin, so am not surprised to hear its pricier than some parts. I genuinely think it is a perfect example of how places like Wicklow, Arklow, Wexford might develop thanks to WFH. Those towns have everything Greystones had when people started moving here.
bubblypop wrote: » totally not true!
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