dundalkfc10 wrote: » For 6 months they told us we have to do this because its public health advice, why did they just decide to stop listening to this advice? If people especially young people see the Govt not listening to NHEPT, they won't listen to anything either. Considering its a week later and lockdown is looking very likely, the Govts decision to go level 3 was a wrong one. The leaders up North, get slated for not acting quicker to health advice, here we are a week after warnings and nothing been done yet, 1 leader living life as he's now in charge with Leo out of the loop and hiding since Tony called him out on his lies
IAMAMORON wrote: » NHEPT is an emergency focus group set up by the government to advise on how to manage the Covid crisis. They were not set up to do anything else. I am delighted that they told them to get in the corner. The government have a country to run. Holohan got ahead of himself, if this was Russia he would have been fired. Governments run countries, not focus groups made up of doctors and health service pen pushers....
dundalkfc10 wrote: » What forward thinking did the Govt have when they launched an attack on NHEPT on Monday? Was that done for the good of the country?
aido79 wrote: » Pearse only had a quick look himself and jotted it down on the back of an envelope. That's the problem with Sinn Fein and money. There's no forward thinking involved.
IAMAMORON wrote: » Just had a quick look into Pearse's budget proposals for next year. He really is some tulip.
FrancieBrady wrote: » We know the 'perspective'. And we know Leo lost his when he had his cheap and very political rant on CB. Leo is fighting the next election while all of us are fighting Covid.
mattser wrote: » Okay, speaking of lightbulbs, can you enlighten us with your warning posts prior to the actual events. If you can, I'll say fair play.
Bishop of hope wrote: » Good article on it here, gives, it a bit of perspective.https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/1011/1170602-politics-government-covid/
FrancieBrady wrote: » Absolutely, the guy did kind of put himself front and centre of finally nailing the fact that the government are NOT following expert advice. If Leo was not putting himself front and centre he wouldn't be commented on. He's done it again this morning...now taking the NPHET advice and trying to make it look like it's a controlled decision when it is anything but. Dithering and disastrous leadership pushing thousands into the arms of the deniers.
McMurphy wrote: » That's bang on the money there mattser, I for one definitely never seen anyone anywhere give out about Cheltenham, the Italian fans let loose around citywest and saggart, or folk calling for the cancellation of the Paddy's Day parade beforehand.... I'd say there was a lightbulb lit up above your head when you penned that post matt.
mattser wrote: » Always the same. They're wise afterthe event. Like Cheltenham and the Italian rugby visitors. Watch them go into over drive after the budget on Tuesday. Shoulda done this.....shouldn't have done that etc. From the ditch of course.
Bishop of hope wrote: » Ah the Leo infatuation again!
FrancieBrady wrote: » It is more than 'opinion' it is actual fact. The FG and FF crew here have done a complete turnaround cheerled by Leo, who most certainly has turned on the advice of NPHET and the CMO.
Bishop of hope wrote: » That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. .
Bishop of hope wrote: » I don't think so Mc. If there's a scapegoat to be had it will be political Ask our main opposition who they will point the finger at, it won't be nmphet.
Bishop of hope wrote: » That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Interestingly I think the main opposition were broadly in agreement with the level 3 restrictions, with the exception of PBP. OK they huffed about Leo's interview, but most were OK with level 3 govt advice anyway.
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'Learning as we go along...' Sorry, the claims were being made on the basis that only NPHET knew how to handle this virus and that was why the government HAD to follow their advice. It was bull**** of course. Anyway, I see Leo is back to talking about a lockdown having pointlessly confused and diluted the message perhaps irrevocably, because now people won't believe him or NPHET. Disastrous leadership and a government in chaos
Bishop of hope wrote: » We are all learning as we go along about covid. It's no bother for me to follow restrictions, but I'm not young free and single, or marching to protest at masks or restrictions. People are turning against the restrictions in large numbers, people I know and thought were sensible enough to know better. But who knows, maybe their agenda is the right one too.
McMurphy wrote: » Agreed. However, it goes back to my original question. Will people "buy into" advise that NPHET recommended, but the govt ignore if and when it suits them? You can't claim "govt only following their (NPHET) advice" one min, and then ignore it on a whim the next. NPHET might be about to be lined up as scapegoats from the govt is it goes tits up, but from what I seen from Holohan during the week, Leo will need to sharpen his pencil if he thinks he'll get one over on them.
mattser wrote: » Stay classy.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Yet there was a cabal here at the start that vehemently stated that the government could only 'follow the expert advice' and anyone suggesting that they do otherwise was a dangerous loon who was messing with peoples lives. The cabal having it's cake and eating it again.
maccored wrote: » i pay my taxes to this government - the one that sold the north.
Bishop of hope wrote: » I never said there was no need for them! Their advice can be partially or wholly taken on board. People need to take responsibility for their own actions also.Nmphet nor the govt will overcome anything unless people buy into it anyway.
Bishop of hope wrote: » I never said there was no need for them! Their advice can be partially or wholly taken on board. People need to take responsibility for their own actions also. Nmphet nor the govt will overcome anything unless people buy into it anyway.
McMurphy wrote: » No need for NPHET at all so? Btw - if the excrement hits the mechanical whirly thing because we didn't enter full lockdown when earlier advised to, does that lie at the feet of the govt who ignored NPHET advice or does it lie at the feet of NPHET because certain members of the government said they weren't consulted?
Bishop of hope wrote: » Fair play to Leo and the govt. Govts govern, not nphets. Decisions in govt have to be taken on the hoof by times and that's what they do and did. If we hand our decision making over to groups and committees we are fcuked anyway and based on agenda living.
