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General Rugby Discussion II

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[Deleted User]

NZ knock it on at the very end. Wallabies run forward, ball gets ripped in the next phase and it's advantage over???

sydthebeat

and whilst mounga is majorly to blame... lets not forget jordie barrett was still on the pitch and able to do things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIiAoW1oEQ0

RugbyLover123

Richie Mounga was an embarrassment in those last few minutes. Ran into 2 rucks to just stand there when he should’ve been in the pocket. Completely bottled it.

Have to say I was quite impressed with Oz, thought they’d get well beaten - but tbh it could’ve very well gone that way had Ioane put the ball down. NZ showed glimpses of brilliance but ultimately weren’t great.

Nic Whites improvement since he went to Exeter has been immense. He was as much as a liability as Nic Phipps a few years back, but today he was a constant threat.

ScrubsfanChris

sydthebeat wrote: »

And mounga was actually worse. On both 86 AND 88 mins he actively walked from the pocket to stand at the back of a ruck five meters out to scratch his arse. I'd be livid if I was a kiwi supporter..... Completely chickened out.

Looked scared to take it on, didnt have the stones to try it in case he misses.
Either that or he's a dullard

ScrubsfanChris

Absolute stupidity from both sides at the end.
Both had a chance to win with easy drop goals and no one stepping forward. Not a brain cell between them in the last 8 minutes.

pickarooney

Interested Observer wrote: »

That 10 seconds of play was absolutely beautiful until he didn't put the ball down. There were about 5 players who could have scored.

The other four should line up and kick him up the hole.

[Deleted User]

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Reiko showed his inexperience as a centre for the first Aussie try. And FFS! Put the ball down properly you ****ing numpty! It was only a matter of time before he did that.
Thought Caleb Clarke had a good game off the bench.
Nick White was outstanding for the Wallabies.
Mounga bottled it. Had no interest in taking the drop goal. Actually thought he had a poor game.
But it was exciting and it's great to see international rugby back. With crowds!

That 10 seconds of play was absolutely beautiful until he didn't put the ball down. There were about 5 players who could have scored.

Yeah_Right

Reiko showed his inexperience as a centre for the first Aussie try. And FFS! Put the ball down properly you ****ing numpty! It was only a matter of time before he did that.
Thought Caleb Clarke had a good game off the bench.
Nick White was outstanding for the Wallabies.
Mounga bottled it. Had no interest in taking the drop goal. Actually thought he had a poor game.
But it was exciting and it's great to see international rugby back. With crowds!

sydthebeat

Basil3 wrote: »

Watched live with the volume off. A lot of poor rugby, but don't think the conditions helped.

What was said for the last penalty that Aussie scored? It looked like he was penalised for not rolling away, but he had flicked the ball back onto the All Black's side when he was on his feet?

I'm not really sure. I think it was against sototu for not rolling away quick enough, rather than against big Karl... The commentators weren't sure either

[Deleted User]

sydthebeat wrote: »

That was exciting.... But so bloody frustrating.

The most headless 'overtime' I've ever witnessed. Have both teams completely forgotten that drop kicks are a valid form of scoring?
After hodges pen hits the penalty neither o Connor nor toamua made any effort to drop in the pocket, even though aussie had ruck's on the five in the middle of the pitch.

And mounga was actually worse. On both 86 AND 88 mins he actively walked from the pocket to stand at the back of a ruck five meters out to scratch his arse. I'd be livid if I was a kiwi supporter..... Completely chickened out.

The game was weird, the weather was a big leveller. In dangunu australia have a gem of a wing, he's koribete but with intelligence. O'connor played as a 12, which meant he held the kiwi attention in defense and that had really showed for koribetes try.

Reiko had a complete mare.... Starting from that unforgivable drop, to being sucked in for that try.

Great to see Dave rennie giving youth and inexperience a try.

Watched live with the volume off. A lot of poor rugby, but don't think the conditions helped.

What was said for the last penalty that Aussie scored? It looked like he was penalised for not rolling away, but he had flicked the ball back onto the All Black's side when he was on his feet?

sydthebeat

pickarooney wrote: »

Enjoy!

That was exciting.... But so bloody frustrating.

The most headless 'overtime' I've ever witnessed. Have both teams completely forgotten that drop kicks are a valid form of scoring?
After hodges pen hits the penalty neither o Connor nor toamua made any effort to drop in the pocket, even though aussie had ruck's on the five in the middle of the pitch.

And mounga was actually worse. On both 86 AND 88 mins he actively walked from the pocket to stand at the back of a ruck five meters out to scratch his arse. I'd be livid if I was a kiwi supporter..... Completely chickened out.

The game was weird, the weather was a big leveller. In dangunu australia have a gem of a wing, he's koribete but with intelligence. O'connor played as a 12, which meant he held the kiwi attention in defense and that had really showed for koribetes try.

Reiko had a complete mare.... Starting from that unforgivable drop, to being sucked in for that try.

Great to see Dave rennie giving youth and inexperience a try.

bilston

Interested Observer wrote: »

Haskell was on Second Captains podcast (yesterday I think), he's an interesting guy. Goes on a bit of a rant here or there but it's fun to hear it rather than the user super-sanitized stuff you get from rugby players.

Haskell is good on podcasts. The Godd The Bad and The Rugby is a good listen. They had Jonny Sexton on about 2 weeks ago...well worth a listen

pickarooney

sydthebeat wrote: »

Tea in the cup, about to press play now

Enjoy!

sydthebeat

pickarooney wrote: »

Did anyone get/stay up for Bledisloe 1?

Daaaamn

Tea in the cup, about to press play now

pickarooney

Did anyone get/stay up for Bledisloe 1?

Daaaamn

Burkie1203

penybont exile wrote: »

Steve Fenwick & Ray Gravell were regarded a big bruising centres back in their day ...... both below 14 st & less than 6'.

I agree with a lot of what McBride is saying ...... the drive for revenue has definitely come at a cost.

Today there is a huge amount of time wasted over scrums, line outs & don't get me going about goal kicking ..... 60 seconds & more ...... takes 15% (of time) out of most games

One way to speed up the game a fraction is any penalty conceded in your own 22 should result in an automatic 5m line lineout if the attacking team choose to go to the corner.

penybont exile

Steve Fenwick & Ray Gravell were regarded a big bruising centres back in their day ...... both below 14 st & less than 6'.

I agree with a lot of what McBride is saying ...... the drive for revenue has definitely come at a cost.

Today there is a huge amount of time wasted over scrums, line outs & don't get me going about goal kicking ..... 60 seconds & more ...... takes 15% (of time) out of most games

[Deleted User]

Haskell was on Second Captains podcast (yesterday I think), he's an interesting guy. Goes on a bit of a rant here or there but it's fun to hear it rather than the user super-sanitized stuff you get from rugby players.

thebaz

McBride was huge for his time , I grew up when Neil Francis was a freak , size wise - See Ciaran Fitzergerald around looks tiny for a hooker - not sure what has happened that we have so many 6 foot 8 giants , and 18 stone hookers different from when i played.

Dog Botherer

aloooof

awec wrote: »

McBride would never make it as a forward in modern rugby. His build seems closer to a back these days.

He must be in serious nick for an 80 year old then

Quin_Dub

awec wrote: »

Well then wikipedia is lying to me, cause it lists him as 6'4" and ~16stone.

Like I said - A 6 :-)

awec

jacothelad wrote: »

He absolutely would. He was a massive man. Not only that, his will to win was terrifying.

Well then wikipedia is lying to me, cause it lists him as 6'4" and ~16stone.

Quin_Dub

awec wrote: »

McBride would never make it as a forward in modern rugby. His build seems closer to a back these days.

jacothelad wrote: »

He absolutely would. He was a massive man. Not only that, his will to win was terrifying.

Definitely not a 2nd row for certain , but would make a pretty handy 6 I'd suggest with plenty of bite.

jacothelad

awec wrote: »

McBride would never make it as a forward in modern rugby. His build seems closer to a back these days.

He absolutely would. He was a massive man. Not only that, his will to win was terrifying.

awec

McBride would never make it as a forward in modern rugby. His build seems closer to a back these days.

salmocab

jacothelad wrote: »

...or with 8 stitches less than half an inch from the inside of your right eye on a circular gash caused by being 'rucked' on the head by a player wearing worn out, hollow metal studs. That was always a laugh.

Great days

jacothelad

salmocab wrote: »

There’s a whole generation coming through who won’t know the joy of going to work Monday with your back and legs criss crossed with stud marks.

...or with 8 stitches less than half an inch from the inside of your right eye on a circular gash caused by being 'rucked' on the head by a player wearing worn out, hollow metal studs. That was always a laugh.

Quin_Dub

bilston wrote: »

The game has changed a lot since the late 90s/early 00 noughties, never mind the 60s and 70s.

Absolutely , and change in general is good but certainly since the advent of Professionalism there has been far too much fidgeting going on in an effort to "improve the product" to try to drive TV revenue etc.

Change should be organic , driven by innovative players and coaches looking for an advantage.

Not via Focus groups interested in advertising revenue.

bilston

The game has changed a lot since the late 90s/early 00 noughties, never mind the 60s and 70s.