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FG to still just do nothing for the next 5 years - part 2

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FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

This is not just a random comment on FG and Leo, this is you posting thousands of thousands of times about FG.
For example, you are the 2nd biggest contributor to this thread.
What is it about FG and Leo that fascinates you so much?

It is a fact that Leo has received homophobic abuse on social media, his lack of 'Irishness' has also been used as a talking point. This is just a fact Francie, and goes some way to explain why so many people seem to 'interested' in what Leo says.

Do you know who is the biggest contributor to this thread is? A poster who used to post under the handle "Matt Barrett', Leo's partner.
Its all just a bit too 'convenient'

You are obsessed by his sexuality...you need to talk to somebody about that, because I ain't getting drawn into your obsession.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I comment on the subject of the thread...FG. Leo leads FG.

This is not just a random comment on FG and Leo, this is you posting thousands of thousands of times about FG.
For example, you are the 2nd biggest contributor to this thread.
What is it about FG and Leo that fascinates you so much?

*Yet again 'homphobia' is brought into the discussion by an avowed supporter of FG...have you guys a bit of a hang-up about Leo's sexual identity? It's 2020 lads, that stuff no longer matters to people who supported equality from the begining. Just saying.

It is a fact that Leo has received homophobic abuse on social media, his lack of 'Irishness' has also been used as a talking point. This is just a fact Francie, and goes some way to explain why so many people seem to 'interested' in what Leo says.

Do you know who is the biggest contributor to this thread is? A poster who used to post under the handle "Matt Barrett', Leo's partner.
Its all just a bit too 'convenient'

dundalkfc10

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Hyperbole central has arrived, who can take these ‘contributions’ anyway seriously.

Shill central.

Mícheál Martin has now come out and said the opposite to what Leo said in the paper

Leo getting it from every angle

Brendan Bendar

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

So 6 days after his outrageous outburst and 3 days since he went into hiding cause Dr Tony put him back in his box, Leo is in the paper agreeing with what Dr Tony said last week

He really is some spoofer

Hyperbole central has arrived, who can take these ‘contributions’ anyway seriously.

Shill central.

dundalkfc10

So 6 days after his outrageous outburst and 3 days since he went into hiding cause Dr Tony put him back in his box, Leo is in the paper agreeing with what Dr Tony said last week

He really is some spoofer

McMurphy

No prizes for guessing who is front and center on twitter this morning, and it's not for praise either.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Varadkar&vertical=trends&s=09

The next opinion poll on his "popularity" will be interesting.

Nobotty

McMurphy wrote: »

Never heard of exit polls so?

They're not terrible reliable for that IMO because you'd need to be at every polling station
Selecting polling stations for an accurate slice of demographics nationally is no good
They're only decent at an over all picture
Other opinions are available of course

smurgen

Sums them up well.

https://twitter.com/RomanShortall/status/1314910303545700352?s=19

McMurphy

Nobotty wrote: »

No party can count on a demographic, last election and every election was a secret ballot by the way

One thing I'm sure of is this current government like Trump are going to be a casualty of the pandemic
There's no focus whatsoever on anything other than gasping for air head bopping up and down out of water
They haven't a clue

Never heard of exit polls so?

Nobotty

No party can count on a demographic, last election and every election was a secret ballot by the way

One thing I'm sure of is this current government like Trump are going to be a casualty of the pandemic
There's no focus whatsoever on anything other than gasping for air head bopping up and down out of water
They haven't a clue

dundalkfc10

markodaly wrote: »

Why are you so obsessed with Leo Francie. Honest question.

In fact most SF types are obsessed with him.
Like here we are in another FG thread, dedicated to FG, even though we have FF and the Greens in Government, with FF being the bigger party and MM as Taoiseach. No threads on them.....

Yet, its Leo this, Leo that...

I said it before, but there is don't doubt there is a soft unconscious element of xenophobia and homophobia at play on social media and that noise can extend to boards.ie as well.

Its all a bit odd that some lads seem so obsessed with the guy.

This is a thread about FG and Leo is the leader, I'd say it's pretty certain he will be brought up in this thread.

He has went into hiding since Thursday, I reckon MM and Donnelly keeping him out of the loop last week has hurt him like hell, then his rant on Monday backfired big time,

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

I agree with you also Christy, and you've as much right to dismiss him as he has to dismiss Richmond.

What we weren't discussing though was the provos and the troubles, it is a real shame that some posters continually get away with derailing with the same auld worn out shyte, it's like they didn't see the damage the continuous deflection to "the RA" did in the last election, and that Sinn Fein received the highest vote count from all age groups under 65, meaning most people under that age don't give a shyte anyway.

Fcukin Willie Fraser wannabes.

Oh yes he has a right to dismiss Richmond, same as I have a right to say the world is flat.

Plenty of posters derail, for example i asked three questions this morning of one poster and none were answered. You're in the wrong place if you want sensible discussion.

About the IRA, I think people have their minds made up either way. I'd be more focused on the breathtakingly stupid proposals such as the demographics looking after themselves.

McMurphy

christy c wrote: »

I agree with this summation, but not one person could say why they thought he was right. So I will personally dismiss his tweet (or laugh him out of it as you put it), and suggest everyone else should too. People need to be careful with what they read online, especially social media.

I agree with you also Christy, and you've as much right to dismiss him as he has to dismiss Richmond.

What we weren't discussing though was the provos and the troubles, it is a real shame that some posters continually get away with derailing thread's with the same auld worn out shyte, it's like they didn't see the damage the continuous deflection to "the RA" did in the last election, and that Sinn Fein received the highest vote count from all age groups under 65, meaning most people under that age don't give a shyte anyway.

Fcukin Willie Fraser wannabes.

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

The topic was how a FG rep in a FG thread (imagine that) tweeted something, and a professor and Director of the Jean Monnet Centre of Excellence in the New Political Economy of Europe at UCD's Dublin European Institute (DEI). Dismissed his tweet.

I agree with this summation, but not one person could say why they thought he was right. So I will personally dismiss his tweet (or laugh him out of it as you put it), and suggest everyone else should too. People need to be careful with what they read online, especially social media.

McMurphy

Truthvader wrote: »

Eh....... Topic was effect on interest rates of Sinn Fein's looney budget.

The topic was how a FG rep in a FG thread (imagine that) tweeted something, and a professor and Director of the Jean Monnet Centre of Excellence in the New Political Economy of Europe at UCD's Dublin European Institute (DEI). Dismissed his tweet.

Yeah, some tried to steer the topic towards Sinn Fein (including yourself) but that's par the course anyway.

You dont decide what views are allowed. My view is that applying rational analysis to a programm only designed to harvest popularity and votes is a wasted and misguided effort.

No indeed I don't - but I do have the right to point and jeer when I see deflection.

Feel free to continue to promote Pearse as some kind of financial wizard if you wish

You see - that is just proof of your obsession, I never mentioned pearse Doherty or Sinn Fein, as I said we were discussing the fg lads tweet getting dismissed.

So I repeat, get up the yard with your obsessive IRA ranting, you're coming across as a fcukin bigger loon than the now deceased Willie Fraser.

He'll never be cold while your churning his script truth.

Truthvader

McMurphy wrote: »

What has any of that got to do with the topic at hand here?

A fg rep tweeted something that has been laughed at, and an actual dismissed, but you have so little left in your handbag you have to fall back to your pretty much default response to everything and say something about the "RA", and the troubles despite the GFA being over twenty years old at this stage.

Get up the yard with that auld shyte apprentice blanch. :pac:

Eh....... Topic was effect on interest rates of Sinn Fein's looney budget. You dont decide what views are allowed. My view is that applying rational analysis to a programm only designed to harvest popularity and votes is a wasted and misguided effort. Feel free to continue to promote Pearse as some kind of financial wizard if you wish

McMurphy

Truthvader wrote: »

Think you are making a mistake by trying to apply logic or maths to Sinn Feins sticky goody bag of a "budget" . Do you really think that a mob who murdered their way to power in the North are concerned to apply any intelligence to their "budget" over and above what might attract votes? The long term plan might be to send the army in to the ECB as "peacekeepers" when it all collapses. Thickos and chancers

What has any of that got to do with the topic at hand here?

A fg rep tweeted something that has been laughed at, and an actual

professor of Associate Professor at the School of Politics and International Relations at University College Dublin (UCD), and Director of the Jean Monnet Centre of Excellence in the New Political Economy of Europe at UCD's Dublin European Institute (DEI). I am also Director of Graduate Master Studies at UCD's School of Politics.

dismissed, but you have so little left in your handbag you have to fall back to your pretty much default response to everything and say something about the "RA", and the troubles despite the GFA being over twenty years old at this stage.

Get up the yard with that auld shyte apprentice blanch. :pac:

Truthvader

McMurphy wrote: »

As I said, wouldn't be my forte tbh, but maybe the professor is wrong, and you're right, maybe he's correct and you're wrong, maybe a little bit from columns A+B combined.

I also don't know if he's a "Sinn Fein fan", but regardless of whether he is, or is not, he certainly seems to disagree with Neale Richmond trying to claim credit where it's (according to him) not due.

Think you are making a mistake by trying to apply logic or maths to Sinn Feins sticky goody bag of a "budget" . Do you really think that a mob who murdered their way to power in the North are concerned to apply any intelligence to their "budget" over and above what might attract votes? The long term plan might be to send the army in to the ECB as "peacekeepers" when it all collapses. Thickos and chancers

smurgen

McMurphy wrote: »

As I said, wouldn't be my forte tbh, but maybe the professor is wrong, and you're right, maybe he's correct and you're wrong, maybe a little bit from columns A+B combined.

I also don't know if he's a "Sinn Fein fan", but regardless of whether he is, or is not, he certainly seems to disagree with Neale Richmond trying to claim credit where it's (according to him) not due.

The same lads were trying to claim repeal the 8th and the civil partnership passing. Now that you mention it the sun rose all the time while they were at the steering wheel. Is there anything these lads can't do!

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

As I said, wouldn't be my forte tbh, but maybe the professor is wrong, and you're right, maybe he's correct and you're wrong, maybe a little bit from columns A+B combined.

I also don't know if he's a "Sinn Fein fan", but regardless of whether he is, or is not, he certainly seems to disagree with Neale Richmond trying to claim credit where it's (according to him) not due.

Yeah, everyone including the professor can be wrong. No one here has given reasons why they think he's right though.

McMurphy

christy c wrote: »

Missed the edit, yes I disagree that Government policy has very little to do with borrowing rates. Look at ireland v Greece over the last number of years for example. It stabilised somewhat after throwing out those spoofers Syriza

As I said, wouldn't be my forte tbh, but maybe the professor is wrong, and you're right, maybe he's correct and you're wrong, maybe a little bit from columns A+B combined.

I also don't know if he's a "Sinn Fein fan", but regardless of whether he is, or is not, he certainly seems to disagree with Neale Richmond trying to claim credit where it's (according to him) not due.

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So glib, so FF FG.

You reap what you sow and the way they drove down the rate will have consequences. Hopefully the end of the toxic power swap.

Fair enough I suppose ré the policies that got us here.
I dread the day, not for myself tg, but for the generation with huge mortgages, that the borrowing rates go up.
SFs borrowing forecast from their alternative budget will help to drive these rates up and when they do it will create homelessness and decrease building again.
There's a price to pay for borrowing, let no one tell you differently or convince you otherwise.
When you borrow money you give control of your spending and interest rates to your creditors.
Have a good day, I'm off shopping.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

It'd have been a lot worse but for it.
People suffer everywhere for govt mistakes, are the all millionaires everywhere else?

So glib, so FF FG.

You reap what you sow and the way they drove down the rate will have consequences. Hopefully the end of the toxic power swap.

Bishop of hope

McMurphy wrote: »

These things are not my forte so to speak, but from what I can see Ireland's is at 0.78 v Greece's 0.8 is this correct?

What's your point?

This is what he is claiming.

Are you disputing his claim?

He is asking why is Greece's so low, is it because the became troika compliant or what?
I remember a certain party bringing their finance minister over here to celebrate a victory at one time, hands clasped on stage because of a now failed policy.
Where's he now and how did that go?
The writing was on the wall for SFs finance policies back then.

McMurphy

christy c wrote: »

Where are you getting the .78 from? There was negative rate recently. The difference being explained by government policy (assuming the .8% is correct which it may not be).

This is what popped up on Google.

Same site is saying the Greek 10 year bond yields now at 0.86%

christy c

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Missed the edit, yes I disagree that Government policy has very little to do with borrowing rates. Look at ireland v Greece over the last number of years for example. It stabilised somewhat after throwing out those spoofers Syriza

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

These things are not my forte so to speak, but from what I can see Ireland's is at 0.78 v Greece's 0.8 is this correct?

Where are you getting the .78 from? There was negative rate recently. The difference being explained by government policy (assuming the .8% is correct which it may not be).

McMurphy

christy c wrote: »

I dont see Ireland's rates mentioned on what you posted. So I will ask you the same questions smurgen legged it from:

What are Ireland rates now? And what were they in the years gone by? Why the difference? (between us and Greece)

These things are not my forte so to speak, but from what I can see Ireland's is at 0.78 v Greece's 0.8 is this correct?

What's your point?

This is what he is claiming.

The favourable financing conditions have very little to do with domestic Irish politics. It's all about the ECB.

Greek 10 year bonds are currently trading at 0.8 percent.

Are you disputing his claim?

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

I'm not sure if he's an "SF fan" or not, but it would appear to me he's rightfully qualified to question Neale.

http://www.aidanregan.com/

https://twitter.com/Aidan_Regan/status/1314517390986809344?s=19

https://twitter.com/Aidan_Regan/status/1314517390986809344?s=19

I dont see Ireland's rates mentioned on what you posted. So I will ask you the same questions smurgen legged it from:

What are Ireland rates now? And what were they in the years gone by? Why the difference? (between us and Greece)

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You aren't dealing with the fact that 'record breaking crisis was created' in order to drive down our rates. I.E. These problems, as well as others, were made worse - people sarcrificed etc.

It'd have been a lot worse but for it.
People suffer everywhere for govt mistakes, are the all millionaires everywhere else?