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Fe1student1234 wrote: »

Yes!!
That may be my plan in the future !! Only one that I need that I didn’t sit is English Public Law !!

If you have the money it’s not a bad route to take!!

Wish we had the LPC but it’s more like the PPC course here

Calls into question when you have already studied a law degree why the heck do we have to do it all over again and call it the FE1’s

Lol let’s start a petition that fe1’s should preclude people who have already gone to the bother of studying a law degree

Law20213 wrote: »

You can also pay to sit the individual subjects (under the gdl) you maybe missing in order to qualify for the LPC

Yes!!
That may be my plan in the future !! Only one that I need that I didn’t sit is English Public Law !!

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

From the website it only states UCD and Trinity as qualifying Law degrees with certain subjects included

For UCD you have to have sat English public law English land law admin and then the other basics like criminal and equity and trusts

It gives you the list on the website

But you could probably ring and ask could you still apply for an exemption from the GDL from another university having sat those subjects

https://www.sra.org.uk/students/academic-stage/

That link has all the info

You can also pay to sit the individual subjects (under the gdl) you maybe missing in order to qualify for the LPC

EmmaO94 wrote: »

If this helps, for a 'qualifying law degree' from Eng/Wales you have to have covered & passed these seven subjects on your llb: contract, criminal, tort, land, equity, public & eu

So I think Irish law degrees would qualify under this, no?

From the website it only states UCD and Trinity as qualifying Law degrees with certain subjects included

For UCD you have to have sat English public law English land law admin and then the other basics like criminal and equity and trusts

It gives you the list on the website

But you could probably ring and ask could you still apply for an exemption from the GDL from another university having sat those subjects

https://www.sra.org.uk/students/academic-stage/

That link has all the info

EmmaO94

If this helps, for a 'qualifying law degree' from Eng/Wales you have to have covered & passed these seven subjects on your llb: contract, criminal, tort, land, equity, public & eu

So I think Irish law degrees would qualify under this, no?

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

https://www.sra.org.uk/students/courses/qualifying-law-degree-providers/

Only mentions UCD and Trinity as qualifying degrees unless I missed it

You can fill out a form on there website I did it few years back I didn’t go to the above uni’s.....you need cert or piece paper from the SRA recognising youR law degree from Ireland in order to apply for the LPC

scarson216 wrote: »

Has anyone been able to get through to the Law Society today or had any kind of update? My employer is demanding to know firm dates before I book leave for definite on Monday, dreading heading into the weekend not knowing anything, it’s nothing short of cruel.

I sent and email but the reply I got was that we would know more early next week

scarson216

Has anyone been able to get through to the Law Society today or had any kind of update? My employer is demanding to know firm dates before I book leave for definite on Monday, dreading heading into the weekend not knowing anything, it’s nothing short of cruel.

Law20213 wrote: »

They recognise most Irish university degrees.

https://www.sra.org.uk/students/courses/qualifying-law-degree-providers/

Only mentions UCD and Trinity as qualifying degrees unless I missed it

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

For England you have to have down a qualifying law degree containing certain subjects (info is on the SRA website) I think the only qualifying law degrees are from UCD and Trinity

If you don’t have a qualifying law degree then you have to do the GDL before moving on to thee LPC and training in England

If you have a qualifying law degree you go straight to the LPC

They recognise most Irish university degrees.

DFMCD190384 wrote: »

No I didn't think so. I was just wondering about this LPC as I hadn't heard about it before.

You actually can believe it or not........I looked into it few years back And I know of person who has done it......if you don’t get an English firm to pay for your LPC it will cost you £17,300 it keeps going up in price.....I just couldn’t afford it...then the society in dub has to decide whether you have to sit from what I recall 1 or no fe1’s...I can’t remember exactly was it company or constitutional law you may have to sit they decide on the individuals case

For England you have to have down a qualifying law degree containing certain subjects (info is on the SRA website) I think the only qualifying law degrees are from UCD and Trinity

If you don’t have a qualifying law degree then you have to do the GDL before moving on to thee LPC and training in England

If you have a qualifying law degree you go straight to the LPC

DFMCD190384

shaunadennyham wrote: »

You can’t do the LPC and then use that to bypass the fe1s to go to blackhall if that’s what you’re asking

No I didn't think so. I was just wondering about this LPC as I hadn't heard about it before.

DFMCD190384 wrote: »

Sorry, if you do the LPC course in England, can you practice in Ireland without having to actually complete the FE1s?

You can’t do the LPC and then use that to bypass the fe1s to go to blackhall if that’s what you’re asking

EmmaO94

DFMCD190384 wrote: »

Sorry, if you do the LPC course in England, can you practice in Ireland without having to actually complete the FE1s?

Well you'd have to fully qualify (inc TC) over there I think, but then you're free to practice in Ireland, ya just need a Certificate of Admission and to pay the LawSoc 300euro!

DFMCD190384

EmmaO94 wrote: »

I studied my undergrad in England but came back to Ireland afterwards (now perhaps regretting that!!) so have a lot of uni friends that did the LPC. It's basically idiot-proof: one year long and really just more of a formality. Kind of kicking myself that I didn't stick around and do it over there.

Edit: if you secure a training contract there with a larger/magic circle firm, you can do a fast-track LPC (6 months I think) so even easier!! And all sponsored by your firm & they give you maintenance too.

Sorry, if you do the LPC course in England, can you practice in Ireland without having to actually complete the FE1s?

Hazel774

They're having a laugh on this fixation on the 'integrity of the exam'. We're in a global pandemic, changing the way the exam is run does not impact on the 'integrity of the exam'. What about the thousands of students who graduated from college this year. Their final year exams were all changed, for the extremely obvious reason of adapting with the times, most of these exams were done as take home exams where students were given a week or two to complete the paper and email it in, or were done through open book online exams. Does this make their degree worth any less? No.

And those students actually get a qualification from their exams, many of them being qualified to now go out into client facing jobs on the basis on their degree alone. It's just so frustrating that we don't get any qualification from these exams other than we're allowed to go on and train further in the legal profession, so I genuinely can't understand this resistance to changing the exam for us for one sitting. The LS seriously need to reevaluate their priorities

EmmaO94

keelfe1s wrote: »

So sick of this bullsh#t now.

Anyone know what’s the crack with the LPC in England? Has anyone gone down that route?

I studied my undergrad in England but came back to Ireland afterwards (now perhaps regretting that!!) so have a lot of uni friends that did the LPC. It's basically idiot-proof: one year long and really just more of a formality. Kind of kicking myself that I didn't stick around and do it over there.

Edit: if you secure a training contract there with a larger/magic circle firm, you can do a fast-track LPC (6 months I think) so even easier!! And all sponsored by your firm & they give you maintenance too.

keelfe1s

So sick of this bullsh#t now.

Anyone know what’s the crack with the LPC in England? Has anyone gone down that route?

LS3

ruby1998 wrote: »

Lol I honestly don’t see how I will manage this.

If they do this im going to request a refund...

ruby1998

FE1new wrote: »

Ah come on so they want to hold them first and second week of November online and closed book. They never really even confirmed the dates of the exams in November they just said its the same as October and a timetable would be released. I honestly don't see how they will manage this.

Lol I honestly don’t see how I will manage this.

FE1new

shaunadennyham wrote: »

As planned ie the first two weeks in November

Ah come on so they want to hold them first and second week of November online and closed book. They never really even confirmed the dates of the exams in November they just said its the same as October and a timetable would be released. I honestly don't see how they will manage this.

dobby896 wrote: »

As in during the first week or just in November generally? Sorry for the 20 questions!

As planned ie the first two weeks in November

dobby896

shaunadennyham wrote: »

No, if they had I would have shared it here. They said they’re opening to hold them as planned in November

As in during the first week or just in November generally? Sorry for the 20 questions!

AlexTG356 wrote: »

Did they give you any idea about provisional dates for these hypothetical exams?

No, if they had I would have shared it here. They said they’re opening to hold them as planned in November

AlexTG356

shaunadennyham wrote: »

I rang the law society and had a very frustrating conversation. They said the health of students is their priority but when I said that their lack of communication and planning is affecting our mental health they said oh well that’s probably just the pandemic in general.

They said they were looking into online examinations and blamed the government for backing them into a corner. I said but surely online exams were being considered before now since the postponement and they said oh well hindsight is a great thing.

I asked if they’d be open or closed book and they said they’d have to be closed book as fe1s are always closed book to preserve their integrity. I actually laughed at that stage and said well I’ve done open book exams in college and they were of no less value than a closed book.

Ultimately they said they don’t know what’s going to be decided by the education committee and when I asked if I should proceed with taking leave they said well that’s up to you. Unbelievably poor organisation over at blackhall place it would seem

Did they give you any idea about provisional dates for these hypothetical exams?

FE12020Law

shaunadennyham wrote: »

I rang the law society and had a very frustrating conversation. They said the health of students is their priority but when I said that their lack of communication and planning is affecting our mental health they said oh well that’s probably just the pandemic in general.

They said they were looking into online examinations and blamed the government for backing them into a corner. I said but surely online exams were being considered before now since the postponement and they said oh well hindsight is a great thing.

I asked if they’d be open or closed book and they said they’d have to be closed book as fe1s are always closed book to preserve their integrity. I actually laughed at that stage and said well I’ve done open book exams in college and they were of no less value than a closed book.

Ultimately they said they don’t know what’s going to be decided by the education committee and when I asked if I should proceed with taking leave they said well that’s up to you. Unbelievably poor organisation over at blackhall place it would seem

Think its time I started looking at Graduate jobs in England. Can't be dealing with this carry on much longer.

Law20213 wrote: »

So frustrating like a simple yes or no answer to whether exams go online from them oh and timetable would be great to organise our lives around it.....

It’s funny how they could organise 4,000 diploma courses ONLINE!!!!since the start of the pandemic.(Quoted from there newsletter)....feel like our exams are such an after thought in all of this

Honestly it was like talking to a brick wall. They just don’t care about us at the end of the day.

shaunadennyham wrote: »

I rang the law society and had a very frustrating conversation. They said the health of students is their priority but when I said that their lack of communication and planning is affecting our mental health they said oh well that’s probably just the pandemic in general.

They said they were looking into online examinations and blamed the government for backing them into a corner. I said but surely online exams were being considered before now since the postponement and they said oh well hindsight is a great thing.

I asked if they’d be open or closed book and they said they’d have to be closed book as fe1s are always closed book to preserve their integrity. I actually laughed at that stage and said well I’ve done open book exams in college and they were of no less value than a closed book.

Ultimately they said they don’t know what’s going to be decided by the education committee and when I asked if I should proceed with taking leave they said well that’s up to you. Unbelievably poor organisation over at blackhall place it would seem

So frustrating like a simple yes or no answer to whether exams go online from them oh and timetable would be great to organise our lives around it.....

It’s funny how they could organise 4,000 diploma courses ONLINE!!!!since the start of the pandemic.(Quoted from there newsletter)....feel like our exams are such an after thought in all of this

PS. PPC is being taught by them online with ONLINE exams for months now!