Truthvader wrote: » Yep pay attention Jeff. Francie's heroes had no choice but murder and terrorise because Jack Lynch did not send in Irish troops as peacekeepers in 1969. And its NOT an invasion no matter what anyone says
FrancieBrady wrote: » No, I think every life lost is a tragedy. You've got the wrong poster there I'm afraid.
walshb wrote: » Christmas twice a year as well they want!!!
mynamejeff wrote: » if your consistent position on this thread alone makes your opinion on anything clear is that your party considers human life expendable so pack in your pathetic fake concern
FrancieBrady wrote: » People don't matter as long as the dig is got.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » A woman might be seriously sick and you are getting a swipe in at others, your some woman. I do recall people saying Mary Lou was missing even though she was isolating at a period, is that what you are talking about?
maccored wrote: » you can prove this? Didnt think so.
blanch152 wrote: » Probably closer to the mark to suggest that you made up what you said than he made up what you said. It was just not possible in 1969 to do what you said should have been done. Realpolitik was that Ireland was a non-player in international diplomacy. Since then, by opening to the world, through successive governments led by FF and FG, through membership of the EU, through active participation in UN peacekeeping, through active participation in international organisations, through the hard work of our diplomats (all of which opposed to a greater or lesser extent by Sinn Fein and the IRA), despite the best efforts of the IRA (supported by Sinn Fein) to destroy the country's reputation, Ireland has managed to achieve a level of respect around the world that mean if it happened today we would be able to address the issue through diplomatic means without the use of violence. Now, before you mention Aiken, Ireland's minor diplomatic fame at the time, centred around one intervention in respect of the NNF Treaty, a treaty that was destested by the main powers in UK, France, Russia, China and the US. It was also predicated on Ireland's neutrality, it's solid position of non-agreession, and non-participation in conflict. Sending our army into the North would have blown all of that up as pure hypocrisy. Now I know that hypocrisy is a comfort blanket for Irish republicanism, but it doesn't wash in the wider world. Your posts on this subject show an alarming naivety about the realities of world politics in the 1960s and 1970s and the power make-up of the United Nations. I am not sure whether it derives from a parochial vision of the world inherent to inward-looking political movements or whether it is part of fervent tenets of Irish republicanism.
walshb wrote: » Yep, usually those that contribute fook all...
tikkahunter wrote: » And people fall for it unfortunately
christy c wrote: » It reads like something from Waterford Whispers news.
Sweet.Science wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/budget-2021-sinn-f%C3%A9in-says-now-is-not-the-time-for-fiscal-conservatism-1.4376584?mode=amp Sun moon and the stars
blanch152 wrote: » https://www.thejournal.ie/michelle-oneill-covid-19-5228604-Oct2020/ Hope Michelle gets the same sympathy around here that members of the government got who were self-isolating..........................oh.
FrancieBrady wrote: » You didn't 'partake' mark. You just made up stuff I said and then constructed a reply.
markodaly wrote: » I will not be partaking.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Supposition.
So you don't wish to accept or address the diplomatic efforts that went into trying to avoid a war. OK, speaks for itself.
Yes, NATO members, who could see just as clearly as Wilson and Callaghan saw, what was going on and what could happen if no intervention was made. And at that stage the British had NO intention and were vehemently rejecting the idea of sending in their own troops. So panicked was that move in the end that the order was made while Jim Callaghan was on a helicopter flight from a meeting with the PM.
The fact is after all this tooing and froing and what iffing Mark , that we did nothing for people we were mandated to protect.
And that is to our shame. I think (I say this tentatively) the lesson has been learned, we cannot back off confronting issues in the north, as when they go bad they affect us all. Even if partitionists are in denial of that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So the British (the government of Boris????) say, 'everything is fine, nothing to see here' and you bought it?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Ah...progress...'put troops on the soil'.Any predictions of when you will get around to dealing with a 'clearly flagged peacekeeping intervention'. The purpose of which would be to act a 'buffer', the very thing the British cabinet was agonising over and considering.
blanch152 wrote: » https://www.thejournal.ie/simon-coveney-uk-block-of-covid-funding-5228522-Oct2020/ Seems that Sinn Fein are running out of excuses for the situation up North. "Speaking on RTɒs Morning Ireland, Coveney said that while there is a perspective that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is under pressure to release further funding, that is not what he was told during his meeting with the Northern Ireland Secretary in Belfast yesterday. Coveney said that he was told by Lewis that “finance from London shouldn’t be a problem”. “What he is saying is that the British government has already made significant funding available to the Executive specifically for Covid in Northern Ireland and the response there,”" They really need to get their act together up there, the incompetence of the SF/DUP government may cost us all.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Eoin O'Broin and Mary Lou etc, those well known thugs and sociopaths. Truth, you need to see somebody about those boogeymen and women under your bed. Really!
Truthvader wrote: » Francie unfortunately has revealed his true agenda here once too often. He will pursue the Gerryadamsspeak he is trained up on relentlessly.
All vague equivocations and "we are all victims/ it was all wrong/ it wasn't me it was partition" etc etc. In Francie's head it is not an "invasion" because he already said that we would cross the border as "peacekeepers". He may even believe that this makes it OK
blanch152 wrote: » The rest of Europe in NATO that had treaty obligations to declare war on any country that put troops on the soil of one of its members. This gets more laughable, Francie will soon be in Australia the way he is digging.
