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Mech1

Following on from my last thread in here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058118251

Would this list work ok for a basic but upgradable gaming system for my son?
I can add in my old SSD's and operating system, monitor etc.

Many thanks for any advise, budget can go to €1100 if ness.

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The Mulk

[URL="PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£179.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£99.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£68.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Red Devil Video Card (£283.48 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£55.97 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £844.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-07 11:49 BST+0100"]PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£179.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£99.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£68.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Red Devil Video Card (£283.48 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£55.97 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £844.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-07 11:49 BST+0100[/URL]

Homelander wrote: »

Consider the Radeon 5600XT with the money saved. Decently more powerful than the 1660 Super and there are some decent ones in the £280 ballpark.

Or else bump up to a 1TB nvme drive, in fact that would be a priority for me. 500GB is too low these days - the latest COD alone is almost 250GB.

Nothing wrong with that build though, although the CPU cooler is unnecessary as the one that comes with the 3600 is decent enough.

Thank you to you and Samuel,

I'll drop the cooler and add in the 5600 XT and 1 TB and show him both options this evening. He can't wait to order one and get going

£844 with the above changes.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Stum78/saved/FBsW4D

Homelander

Consider the Radeon 5600XT with the money saved. Decently more powerful than the 1660 Super and there are some decent ones in the £280 ballpark.

Or else bump up to a 1TB nvme drive, in fact that would be a priority for me. 500GB is too low these days - the latest COD alone is almost 250GB.

Nothing wrong with that build though, although the CPU cooler is unnecessary as the one that comes with the 3600 is decent enough.

The Mulk

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Stum78/saved/

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £179.00
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler £28.81
Motherboard MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £99.98
Memory Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory £68.39
Storage Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £61.98
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £200.0
Case Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case £62.95
Power Supply be quiet! System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX £55.97
Total: £757.08

I've made those changes and added the NVME drive.

Anything else I'm missing?

The Mulk

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

B550M pro VDH wifi is available for £100 from Amazon. Would recommend that over a B450 board.

Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 ram is better spec and cheaper.

Is that WD drive the NVMe one?

PSU is overkill.

Cheers i'll put them onto the list.

Alternate PSU
https://www.amazon.co.uk/QUIET-System-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B079K5YY31/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=be+quiet+psu&qid=1601924735&sr=8-1

The WD Drive is M.2 Sata
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073SBX6TY?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1

Samuel T. Cogley

B550M pro VDH wifi is available for £100 from Amazon. Would recommend that over a B450 board.

Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 ram is better spec and cheaper.

Is that WD drive the NVMe one?

PSU is overkill.

The Mulk

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Stum78/saved/

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £179.00
CPU Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler £28.81
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £99.95
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 £73.87
Storage Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £52.49
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB VENTUS XS OC £200.00
Case Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case £62.95
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £104.99
Total: £802.06

Can someone have a look at my list, it's for my son (12) for gaming and school work.
He's picked the parts through some Youtube research and wants to build it himself.
Are there any improvements/changes needed?
Are all parts essential?

Thanks in advance.

Skerries

I would look to more what K.O.Kiki posted for your build as you are putting more money into aesthetics and not into what actually runs the games

Hyzepher

The way things are at the moment future-proofing isn't something that you should be thinking about for both the CPU and Motherboard. Although the latest AMD boards will support Zen3 that's where they'll stop and it's more likely that the generation after that will require a new platform.

With this in mind I'd go with the B450 options and save some money

The type of games he is planning on playing aren't too demanding and since your son is coming from such an old system, and as the Ryzen 5 3600 is a huge step up and is already coming to its end of life, you might consider a Ryzen 5 2600X or even the Ryzen 3 3300X. Both of these would also be a huge step up for him but considerably cheaper.

If it was me I'd be putting more focus on the parts that go futher in terms of future proofing i.e. power supply, GPU, RAM & storage and choosing the CPU and motherboard that meets the needs I have now

BloodBath

AMD's 5600XT.

Mech1

Im happy with that basic component list, but to if I had to move up a step on the GPU I would whats the next budget friendly step up?

Mech1

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Mech1

Forgot to check MVMe but on it now.

Mech1

I havent dealt or even heard of CCL but will check them out, thanks.

Mech1

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Samuel T. Cogley

https://www.amazon.co.uk/QUIET-System-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B079K5YY31/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=be+quiet+psu&qid=1601924735&sr=8-1

Enough PSU I'd say.

Considered the Phanteks P400A DRGB - it's about £20 cheaper.

Mech1

New shopping list incoming

Mech1

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

I'd be keeping the B550 personally in the name of future-proofing. You upgrade path would be a high corecount 5000 series in five or so years to extend the life of the system. I also like PCIe 4.0.
MSI B550M Pro VDH Wifi £100
WD Blue M.2 drives come in SATA and NVMe flavours, looks like you have the SATA one - switch to NVMe.
Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 memory is only about £8 more expensive on Amazon.
Case and PSU are overkill but you like what you likes in terms of cases and PSUs are a bit of a bugger to find on Amazon at the moment.

I agreed with you but he upgraded to the RGB version so

K.O.Kiki

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£182.03 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Phantom Gaming D OC Video Card (£286.58 @ Amazon UK)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case (£94.57 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £888.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-05 20:06 BST+0100

Would let you step up to RX 5600 XT / RTX 2060 which are 20% faster than 1660 Super.

Also be aware that AMD next-gen is being detailed this week & due for release next month.

Samuel T. Cogley

I'd be keeping the B550 personally in the name of future-proofing. You upgrade path would be a high corecount 5000 series in five or so years to extend the life of the system. I also like PCIe 4.0.
MSI B550M Pro VDH Wifi £100
WD Blue M.2 drives come in SATA and NVMe flavours, looks like you have the SATA one - switch to NVMe.
Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 memory is only about £8 more expensive on Amazon.
Case and PSU are overkill but you like what you likes in terms of cases and PSUs are a bit of a bugger to find on Amazon at the moment.

Mech1

Any comments on the other components?

Mech1

How much better of a gpu could I buy if I downgrade the Motherboard? Examples please, as I know nothing about recent (10 years) of pc development.

Homelander

Yes, but future proofing is radically over-exaggerated. By the time a Ryzen 3600 is out of date, it will be time to be thinking of a new PC rather than upgrading in six years time to a marginally faster processor.

I personally have my Ryzen 3700X on a €70 B450M motherboard for example. It will also support 4th Gen Ryzen in any case.

Unless you have a specific need for a B550, it's not the best use of cash when it could easily be better spend on things that'll give you actual returns like a better GPU.

90% of people who buy higher-end motherboards never utilize any of the features that are the reason they cost what they do. I have no problem with people who buy B550's or higher-end enthusiast boards when they have ample reason to, but many people just assume that more expensive = better/more future proof, with no regard to how true that is in relation to their needs or usage.

I'm not saying to rule it out completely, but ask yourself what real value will you actually get from a B550M at almost 3 times the price of a B450M, when it could go into a more powerful GPU.

Mech1

Homelander wrote: »

I would say it's a bit unbalanced, very high spending on the motherboard and PSU relative to the actual cost of the build.

I sort of realise that, but he is only 10 years old so future proofing has to be built in!

Homelander

I would say it's a bit unbalanced, very high spending on the motherboard and PSU relative to the actual cost of the build.