Outlaw Pete wrote: » No, he said there were good people on both sides of a protests to take down a statue. He did not say the "side of White Supremacy" just as he didn't say the "side of scum Antifa". He did what a good leader should do and condemned the scum on both sides and praised those who were peaceful. Eh, no he didn't - he said 'Sure' twice when asked was he willing to condemn white supremacy (and why wouldn't he, he has done many times - and Wallace knew that as he has asked him to do it before) and he also asked for a name of a group. The fact that Wallace named the fcuking Proud Boys just shows you how big a problem white supremacy must be in America. Fact remains: Trump denounced and disavowed white supremacists multiple times over the years and you and your fellow leftists ignored it so you could play Orange Man Bad as usual and hope it would damage him for Nov 3rd. About as disgusting as it gets. Meanwhile, a guy who recruiting KKK members at a time when the KKK were killing black people and burning them out of their homes is spoken of as a racist and his past cited, and what do you all do?? You jump on here to defend him and say he has denounced the KKK and moan that it was relevant despite your own actions over the last few days. About as hypocritical as it gets.
nolivesmatter wrote: » What do you honestly think he meant by "Stand back and stand by"?
Tell me how wrote: » WTF are my actions over the last few days?
Tell me how wrote: » I think he meant 'I gotta say so something, but I amn't going to undermine a support base' What do you think he meant?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Are you kidding me? You've been running around Boards for three days saying Trump refused to denounce White Supremacy.
nolivesmatter wrote: » I think he didn't have a rehearsed line for denunciation and just ended up saying 'stand back' and 'stand by' when what he wanted to say was 'stand down'.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » They know damn well Trump was trying to say what Wallace wanted. Sure look at all the times Trump disavowed with no ambiguity. Was it good enough for them then?? Nope, but we're all supposed to believe that had Trump just said 'Stand down' that they'd all been happy this time?? Ha. Nothing would please the left on this issue. They are insatiable on the matter and for good reason: racist against Trump are largely all they have now that everything else they have thrown at him didn't work.
Tell me how wrote: » If the President cannot say what he wanted to say about an easy picking topic during a debate then it is further evidence he is the wrong man in the wrong place.
nolivesmatter wrote: » He answered yes twice to the question "Do you condemn white supremacists?". His stance is clear on it is clear.
Tell me how wrote: » You just said yourself that he was trying to say something else. Trying to say one thing, but actually saying a different thing, which is a different message is a text book example of something being unclear.
Tell me how wrote: » You actually think it is a better message that he couldn't get his words right on such a simple topic? Seriously? Most powerful office in the world and the holder of it stumbled over trying to find the words to say white supremacists are terrible? And you have been suggesting here that Biden is sleepy and struggles to formulate his message? Given you appear to have watched the debate, you happy to accept now that he did actually suggest using bleach to treat Covid?
nolivesmatter wrote: » There's two things we're talking about. 1 is the question "Do you condemn white supremacists'?". To that he answered yes twice. So that can't be disputed and shouldn't be questioned anymore, he clearly denounced white supremacy.
nolivesmatter wrote: » 2 is the proud boys. He told them to "stand back and stand by". Like I said, he seemed to be specifically looking for the words "stand down".
nolivesmatter wrote: » The power of the office is not necessarily a reflection of the aptitude of the man who holds it.
Tell me how wrote: » You actually think it is a better message that he couldn't get his words right on such a simple topic? Seriously? Most powerful office in the world and the holder of it stumbled over trying to find the words to say white supremacists are terrible?
And you have been suggesting here that Biden is sleepy and struggles to formulate his message?
Given you appear to have watched the debate, you happy to accept now that he did actually suggest using bleach to treat Covid?
Tell me how wrote: » 100% true in the case of the incumbent.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » He was speaking about future research and essentially asked if there was someway that the anti-viral qualities of antiseptics could be harnessed in some way for use inside the body. A silly question, no doubt, which I think he realized given that he then sarcastically said "You’re going to have to use medical doctors for that, right?." He at no stage suggested though (nor said) that anyone should use "bleach" to "treat" Covid. Again, he was talking about a conversation that had already taken place with Bryan, in the context of future research.
And then I see the disinfectant, which knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that inside, or almost a cleaning?
Tell me how wrote: » Lol. Try again. His team felt the need to specifically address the matter in the days after the debate. His party called on him to clarify his views.
Tell me how wrote: » Not to mind that, in the days after when asked about it, he said that he didn't know who the 'Proud Boys' were so why didn't he say that on Tuesday night instead of telling them what to do.
Tell me how wrote: » You're suggesting the President of the United States has weaker debating skills than your average 1st year secondary school student in Ireland.
Tell me how wrote: » "And then I see the disinfectant, which knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that inside, or almost a cleaning?" The face of Dr Birx shows just how much sarcasm was involved. (Zero) Trump is either entirely incompetent, or a terrible communicator who is also unable to observe the appropriate decorum in the midst of a pandemic as tens of thousands of his citizens die. Which is he, in your view?
"So I asked Bill a QUESTION that probably some of you were thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting: "So, SUPPOSING we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light [Trump speaks to Bryan] and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. "And then I said SUPPOSING you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. "And I THINK YOU SAID YOU ARE GOING TO TEST THAT too. [Bryan confirms]. "Right, and then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And IS THERE A WAY WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT by injection, inside, or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs "So IT'D BE INTERESTING TO CHECK THAT. [SARCASM]"So, you’re going to have to use medical doctors, right?"[/SARCASAM] "It SOUNDS INTERESTING TO ME, so we'll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. "That’s pretty powerful."
Outlaw Pete wrote: » The truth matters
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Both the video AND the quote you used were entirely out of context and you did that for a reason: so you could make it appear as if Trump was just saying "Supposing you brought the light..." etc etc out of the blue but again that is NOT what happened at all. As I explained in my post which I linked you to, Trump was in fact referencing a conversation that he already had with Bryan [timestamped with verbatim quotes below]: So, you see: at no stage did he tell (or suggest that) anyone should use bleach to treat Covid. The truth matters and if you want to condemn him for asking those questions of Bryan and telling us all about it, so be it, do that - but lying about him saying stuff he didn't just screams desperation. Oh and by the way, while such questions in the context of bleach and Isopropyl alcohol weren't the brightest, merely wondering if the qualities of disinfectants could be harnessed in some way, so that they could be of benefit inside the body, is likely what first led to people to placing essential oils in hot water so that they could then inhale the steam.
milli milli wrote: » It can’t matter that much to you when you support a pathological liar.
patnor1011 wrote: » In case you did not notice yet every us president or candidate or politicians (including ours) are pathological liars.
patnor1011 wrote: In case you did not notice yet every us president or candidate or politicians (including ours) are pathological liars.
hetuzozaho wrote: » Well he's successfully ignored it for months but looks like coronavirus is finally getting his attention and going to distract him from the election prep for a while. Could have an impact.
The truth matters
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