Dacia new models 2020/2021

Deleted User wrote: »

No, a Dacia Sandero(up until the latest one just announced) is just a re-clothed Clio first released in 97/98.
...and with the grill on the 7 series I'd prefer a 20 year old Corolla.

The first generation was.
3rd generation is out now. All 3 are on different platforms.

colm_mcm wrote: »

The first generation was.
3rd generation is out now. All 3 are on different platforms.

Dacias Sanderos are Renault parts bin specials. Drivetrain, switchgear and pretty much anything else under the skin are the same which helps keeps the parts prices down.

bobbyy gee

reviews not good

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/dacia/duster/suv/reliability

ba_barabus

bobbyy gee wrote: »

reviews not good

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/dacia/duster/suv/reliability

Not until you read it, 'driving pleasure' seems an odd reason to mark down a car that doesn't aspire to be anything other than bland to drive.

PsychoPete

The Sandaro was a pretty good seller for us especially with the older generation that want technology, a new Clio is around 17k vs a Sandaro which is around 12k. If you want a mode of transport with a 3 year warranty you can't really go wrong

bobbyy gee wrote: »

reviews not good

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/dacia/duster/suv/reliability

Owners rating is 4.3/5 that is a better measure!

I don't think many Sandero owners are down grading from the latest BMW 3 series!

ba_barabus wrote: »

Not until you read it, 'driving pleasure' seems an odd reason to mark down a car that doesn't aspire to be anything other than bland to drive.

It loses safety marks not because it’s a tin can but because it doesn’t have enough nannying devices like autonomous braking.

Deleted User wrote: »

Dacias Sanderos are Renault parts bin specials. Drivetrain, switchgear and pretty much anything else under the skin are the same which helps keeps the parts prices down.

Any smart multi brand manufacturer is doing the same.

so you accept there is little difference between the outgoing Dacia Sandero and a Clio from 1998.

Deleted User wrote: »

so you accept there is little difference between the outgoing Dacia Sandero and a Clio from 1998.

In some areas, yes they’re both a basic car by today’s standards. To say they’re basically the same isn’t accurate though.

colm_mcm wrote: »

In some areas, yes they’re both a basic car by today’s standards. To say they’re basically the same isn’t accurate though.

In many, many areas they are the same car.

Deleted User wrote: »

In many, many areas they are the same car.

Do go on. What parts are shared with a mk2 Clio?

The drivetrain, switchgear, most consumables. they changed to the 1 litre triple which they lifted from the newer clio/twingo and you'd be better off with the 1.2 4 cylinder. I'm happy for you to labour over this because the point that bears stressing is that you are paying new car money for ancient technology. You'd be paying 20 times the purchase price for one of these as for a early to mid 2000s Clio and it is not appreciably better in any respect.
Even at the price they're no bargain for anyone who knows what a bargain is. Either push the boat out a bit more and buy a discounted mainstream supermini or save your money and buy an older secondhand.

Meh. Nothing of interest there. As you say the drivetrain is completely different.
The Clio that got replaced in last year used the 1149cc engine too until 2017.

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Charity shop jeans €5

PsychoPete

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The drivetrain, switchgear, most consumables. they changed to the 1 litre triple which they lifted from the newer clio/twingo and you'd be better off with the 1.2 4 cylinder. I'm happy for you to labour over this because the point that bears stressing is that you are paying new car money for ancient technology. You'd be paying 20 times the purchase price for one of these as for a early to mid 2000s Clio and it is not appreciably better in any respect.
Even at the price they're no bargain for anyone who knows what a bargain is. Either push the boat out a bit more and buy a discounted mainstream supermini or save your money and buy an older secondhand.

The new tce engine is a far nicer engine

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

Meh. Nothing of interest there. As you say the drivetrain is completely different.
The Clio that got replaced in last year used the 1149cc engine too until 2017.

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Charity shop jeans €5

I'd prefer the fart free new jeans

The Lada X ray shares the same platform as the current Dacia Sandero. However, now that the new just revealed Dacia Sandero wants to shake off it's no frills motoring, and will ultimately go up in price, that'll price current Sandero drivers out of changing up and anyone else on a shoestring budget or just wants a cheap car.

I think if Lada could introduce an Access model of the Lada X ray and with some more trim levels with a great price that'll capture the Sandero market .....then Lada will have established a foothold in the European market again....and possibly introduce more models including evs..all on a budget. Remember Lada did have a 23kw battery car in 2010!!
No better time!

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/driven-what-modern-lada-cars-are-behind-wheel

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Ta ceist agam wrote: »

. However, now that the new just revealed Dacia Sandero wants to shake off it's no frills motoring,

Does it?

colm_mcm wrote: »

Does it?

Dacia says it has focused on making the Sandero look and feel classier inside, introducing a redesigned centre console with part-digital air conditioning controls and an electronic handbrake on higher trim levels

Englisch no my 1st talk boot don't "classier" say same as upmarket?

AMKC

Deleted User wrote: »

The drivetrain, switchgear, most consumables. they changed to the 1 litre triple which they lifted from the newer clio/twingo and you'd be better off with the 1.2 4 cylinder. I'm happy for you to labour over this because the point that bears stressing is that you are paying new car money for ancient technology. You'd be paying 20 times the purchase price for one of these as for a early to mid 2000s Clio and it is not appreciably better in any respect.
Even at the price they're no bargain for anyone who knows what a bargain is. Either push the boat out a bit more and buy a discounted mainstream supermini or save your money and buy an older secondhand.

But buying the new car is the safer bet because you will know that no one else has drove it or had sex in it and left stuff everywhere or crashed it and you will definitely know it's not robbed and you are not been conned and will have a 5years warranty incase anything does go wrong with the car. Yes it will not be the most exciting car to look at or own but the owner will have piece of mind instead of someone like the Garda ringing there doorbell and telling them the 2nd hand car they just bought was robbed and they just lost the car and the money they paid for it too.

Ta ceist agam wrote: »

Dacia says it has focused on making the Sandero look and feel classier inside, introducing a redesigned centre console with part-digital air conditioning controls and an electronic handbrake on higher trim levels

Englisch no my 1st talk boot don't "classier" say same as upmarket?

No, upmarket means it appeals to the upper end of the market, and classy is a more subjective description which would suggest something is tasteful and stylish.

It’s still a Dacia at the end of the day, it may be more stylish or upmarket, but it’s still the bottom end of the market.

colm_mcm wrote: »

No, upmarket means it appeals to the upper end of the market, and classy is a more subjective description which would suggest something is tasteful and stylish.

It’s still a Dacia at the end of the day, it may be more stylish or upmarket, but it’s still the bottom end of the market.

Oxford languages thesaurus must be wrong then!
Also note, to say going or gone upmarket doesn't necessarily mean Rolls Royce level of upmarket. There's a linearity.

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You do know a thesaurus doesn’t give you synonyms?

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I think the new one looks good. If I was in the market for a small car it'd be on my radar. And the comparisons with the €500 1998 Clios, where can I get one of them with zero miles and in brand new condition with a lengthy warranty?

colm_mcm wrote: »

You do know a thesaurus doesn’t give you synonyms?

I’ve highlighted something for you

The use of language is very much reliant on the context it is used, which either gives a greater or lesser meaning to the similarities of words.

But what would the Oxford dictionary paraphrase above or I know! lol

Anyway, enough of entertaining you.

The current UK entry level new Dacia starts at 7k, but the up market Sandero will start at 8k, that's quite a jump for a budget brand.

But saying that the new Clio in UK starts at 15k, almost twice the price.

Renault Clio's do have a loyal customer base, however with the new Sandero appearing more like the Clio, have the Renault group shot themselves in the foot, by inadvertently luring their Clio drivers to save 1ks and opt for the less profitable Sandero?

PsychoPete wrote: »

The new tce engine is a far nicer engine

The asthmatic naturally aspirated three selling engine which is what is selling in volume is not a nice engine.
I try to refuse a Dacia when offered as a rental car as I have booked a "Fiesta or similar". If I have to I ask to be downgraded to a Picanto, i10, Citigo or Up! because they're actually an upgrade from a Sandero in reality.

antodeco

You really have it in for the Dacia's don't you haphaphap is it it just specifically the Sandero?

PsychoPete

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The asthmatic naturally aspirated three selling engine which is what is selling in volume is not a nice engine.
I try to refuse a Dacia when offered as a rental car as I have booked a "Fiesta or similar". If I have to I ask to be downgraded to a Picanto, i10, Citigo or Up! because they're actually an upgrade from a Sandero in reality.

It's turbo

antodeco wrote: »

You really have it in for the Dacia's don't you haphaphap is it it just specifically the Sandero?

I like the striped down unfussy body which reminds me of a Golf MK4 which has just enough parts and no more than that.
I think the Logan Saloon would sell well in Ireland and could motivate a lot of old Country folk to rustle about under the mattress and pull out a wad of cash.
I don't like the three cylinder naturally aspirated engine, the interior carpets and absence of sound proofing.
A Sandero starts at €7600 in Germany with a 3 year warranty. It just isn't cheap enough in Ireland to recommend.