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Retr0gamer

Hmm let's see how a thread like this works.

Anyway for the first post I'd like to let people know that ATB podcast with its host Kat Bailey is back on 1up. The first episode might be Western RPG focused but the podcast is well worth a listen.

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Eduard Khil

I'm ashamed I have restarted Ys Origins on my switch in easy mode got killed so many times over the last couple of days I'm gonna try it on easy mode just to get the feel of the tower fun game when not getting murdered.

Retr0gamer

Every boss in Oath in Felghana has been me dying within the first 30 seconds and going 'how the actual **** am I supposed to beat this' to slowly learning the patterns and overcoming it. It's a lot of fun and the fights are short enough and restarts so quick you don't mind the punishment.

Also whoever made the achievements is a prick.

Got an achievement for dying 10 times on the same boss. 'Go consult a FAQ already'. Bastards.

Retr0gamer

I'll buy it in the next few weeks.

It is complete in that it's got an ending now but it's one of those games I can see the developer supporting with lots of content. I've plenty to play at the moment so don't mind hanging on to see if it is supported.

johnny_ultimate

Yep, it’s 1.0 now, and basically as close to perfect as you can get.

They could well add more content due its popularity (and no game has ever deserved to be such a hit more), but yeah I would not hesitate to dive in.

megaten

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'm holding off on that game as I know in a few months time it's going to be bigger and even better with updates.

I thought Hades was finished now? Wasn't it an early access game?

Retr0gamer

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Someone hasn’t played Hades yet

(said as a Ys fan)

I'm holding off on that game as I know in a few months time it's going to be bigger and even better with updates.

johnny_ultimate

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Falcom really have no peers when it comes to Action RPGs.

Someone hasn’t played Hades yet

(said as a Ys fan)

Retr0gamer

So I started Ys Oath in Felghana at the weekend again. I forgot just how much fun it is. Falcom really have no peers when it comes to Action RPGs. So much fun.

Some of the bosses though are incredible tough. Just spent the last hour on the fire dragon.

_Godot_

I loved both Star Oceans they ported to the psp. I played First Departure several times, but Second Evolution only once. But yeah, if you're looking for pure sci fi rpg, they are not the way to go. If you have a ds or 2ds/3ds, maybe look for Infinite Space instead if you want a handheld sci fi rpg.

Retr0gamer

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Also reminds me of the Legend of Heroes psp games I believe Falcom published them too.

The XSeed published ones are great. The Namco published trilogy while playing great is unfortunately ruined with an awful localisation. The first release is the second in the series. Then they released the first as the second game and totally ****ed up the translation even more to shoe horn that in.

RobbingBandit

Also reminds me of the Legend of Heroes psp games I believe Falcom published them too.

RobbingBandit

I'd love a remastered of Lunar and Skies just regigger the controls, the psp one was a watered down version I wish they'd done what the Dragon Quest VIII team did with the 3ds version for Lunar tone down the music and liten the graphics a little bit but it was less than 25% of the PS1 version and about 1% of the Saturn one.

Ys is different a very lite version again but for €20 on the eshop and coming in a 2.5GB it's very bright colourful and after about 40 minutes of play very engaging so far, started with Hugo gonna dip in and out for the next few days to play it lightly.

Retr0gamer

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Just starting Ys Origins on the Switch the intro video is really making me pine for Lunar Silver Star.

Be careful what you wish for, the PSP remake was garbage. I do love Game Art style RPGs. Everything is so modern anime and quite frankly ****. I miss the 80's, early 90's anime aesthetic and more care free attitude and you only really get that in Falcom games like Ys.

Would love more games like Grandia and Skies of Arcadia basically.

RobbingBandit

Just starting Ys Origins on the Switch the intro video is really making me pine for Lunar Silver Star.

Sephiroth_dude

skerry wrote: »

Love the Yakuza games and Fist of the North Star looks just as off the wall so gonna go for that. Have played first few hrs of Judgement and like what Ive played so far, the detective elements work well enough apart from some tailing missions, bit of a Phoenix Wright vibe in places too. Looking forward to Like a Dragon in November but wary of Yakuza burnout before then. I usually take a few months off between Yakuza games

Judgement is on sale atm, get that instead, fun game.

skerry

Xenji wrote: »

I actually had great fun with Fist Of The North Star, do not expect a masterpiece but if you have played any of the Yakuza games you will know what you are getting into combat wise, Judgement is also very good and is usually on sale as well.

Love the Yakuza games and Fist of the North Star looks just as off the wall so gonna go for that. Have played first few hrs of Judgement and like what Ive played so far, the detective elements work well enough apart from some tailing missions, bit of a Phoenix Wright vibe in places too. Looking forward to Like a Dragon in November but wary of Yakuza burnout before then. I usually take a few months off between Yakuza games

Xenji

skerry wrote: »

OK, it was either one of these or go completely different direction and get Fist of the North Star so might go with that so.

Are any of the Star Ocean games recommended? Ive debated First Departure on Switch a few times when its been on sale.

I actually had great fun with Fist Of The North Star, do not expect a masterpiece but if you have played any of the Yakuza games you will know what you are getting into combat wise, Judgement is also very good and is usually on sale as well.

skerry

Fairly unanimous there folks. Thanks for the input as always. I've a bit to go in FFXII so have my Sci Fi JRPG fix sorted for a while yet.

Sieghardt

skerry wrote: »

Any thoughts on Star Ocean Till the End of Time or The Last Hope folks? Never played the franchise and was thinking of picking up one of these in the PS4 sale.

Both are bad, if you want to try the star ocean series I would recommend trying First Departure instead, then hope second evolution gets released and then avoid the rest forever

Retr0gamer

Honestly.... There's so many much better games. They seem like they will be awesome. A sci fi rpg but then about an hour in it goes star trek prime directive and you can't use sci fi stuff or you'll influence the less developed natives and it becomes a standard fantasy rpg.

If you want something good by tri ace then try the ps1 version of valkyrie profile (psp version is a downgrade of the fixes in the western release and look fugly).

skerry

Xenji wrote: »

Avoid both.

OK, it was either one of these or go completely different direction and get Fist of the North Star so might go with that so.

Are any of the Star Ocean games recommended? Ive debated First Departure on Switch a few times when its been on sale.

Retr0gamer

skerry wrote: »

I've heard that Till the End of Time has a bit of a wacky plot twist alright. Last Hope remaster looks lovely but I've also heard the characters and protagonist especially are fairly bland.

Both descriptions I'd describe as being very nice about those parts of the games

skerry

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Fun battle systems. Til the end of Time though drops it's trousers and takes a massive dump all over the story of Star Ocean 1 and 2. Then kicks it in the nads for good luck.

Last Hope is fun if you can stick the god awful story and over long cutscenes.

I've heard that Till the End of Time has a bit of a wacky plot twist alright. Last Hope remaster looks lovely but I've also heard the characters and protagonist especially are fairly bland.

Retr0gamer

Xenji wrote: »

Avoid both.

In retrospect, this is probably the more realistic approach.

Xenji

skerry wrote: »

Any thoughts on Star Ocean Till the End of Time or The Last Hope folks? Never played the franchise and was thinking of picking up one of these in the PS4 sale.

Avoid both.

Retr0gamer

Fun battle systems. Til the end of Time though drops it's trousers and takes a massive dump all over the story of Star Ocean 1 and 2. Then kicks it in the nads for good luck.

Last Hope is fun if you can stick the god awful story and over long cutscenes.

skerry

Any thoughts on Star Ocean Till the End of Time or The Last Hope folks? Never played the franchise and was thinking of picking up one of these in the PS4 sale.

Retr0gamer

Atelier Ryza 2 getting a PS5 version. Could be a good move for the series. Probably will be one of the first JRPGs on the system and people more willing to take a chance early on when there's feck all on a new system. Could create more Atelier fans.

Sieghardt

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Jumped back into Blue Reflection last night.

I really want to love this game. Closet fan of magical girl anime like Sailor Moon and Card Capture Sakura and there really is huge potential for a magical girl RPG.

The character models look gorgeous and so do the environments. The soundtrack is absolutely incredible. The UI is gorgeous as well.

However the game is low budget so tried to be like Persona 3/4 but hasn't managed it. There's only 4 dungeons in the game and you will visit them a lot. They are tiny and there's no variety in them as there's no randomisation like persona has. The battle system has loads of potential, you can interrupt attacks and status effects are useful but the game is such a breeze that it never comes into play. You are never challenged. Also the game just has girls.... it really needs guys in it to liven things up. And it just takes itself way too seriously. It needs the comedy elements of a Sailor Moon to keep things interesting but everything is just played so straight.

I wish Gust could have given it the budget it deserved as there's a great game in there wanting to get out.

It's really sad because Mana Khemia is a worthy competitor to Persona, has a fantastic main story and great individual character stories that progress through fun character quests that let them shine, it did so much right that BR gets wrong. The grow book in that was an addictive progression system. In contrast, battles are nearly pointless in BR, you get no exp and just random drops that generally dont do much either. You're better off avoiding battles 99% of the time.

The soundtrack is packed with great tunes too, but you're going to hear the same couple of tracks for 90% of the game with the other very rarely used, despite tons of scenes being nigh on silent save for ambient noises

megaten

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Needs more Tuxedo Mask.

0 emotional support dudes is the least of that games problems.