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General Chat 2020/21

Shanotheslayer

Not sure if this is too early but here it is!

Potentially an early wildcard depending on how far teams go in Europe.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12037381/premier-league-clubs-still-in-european-competitions-set-for-extended-break-before-new-season

Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea and Wolves are expected to be given extra time off by the Premier League and start next season late, should they go into the latter stages of their respective European competitions.

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Shanotheslayer

Im in the same boat as having Robbo/TAA/Salah with absolutely no plans to change any of them. The points return from Robbo/TAA considering they've only kept 1 clean sheet is great.

5 points between Robbo and TAA with 0.5M in the difference. Tight if somebody was just picking 1 Robbo looks slightly better but definitely not worth a swap from TAA to Robbo imo

Shedite27

Ace2007 wrote: »

Being curious at start of season, i set up a "set and forget" team with the 3 pool defenders and captain on TAA every week. The team is only 26 points behind my real team. Sometimes we over complicate the game.

As for my real team - Robbo/TAA/Salah be there for the season unless there are injuries. Obv doesn't leave me much wriggle room for transfers with double poo defence but when you see them conceding last night and still get 17 points - just got to ride out the 1 pointers.

For me the Robbo/TAA/Salah set and forget just makes the game so easy. Add in KDB to that, and you've nearly half your team you can forget about for the season.

Irishphotodesk

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

The triple Liverpool with 2+ defensive assets breakdown:

Robertson / VVD / TAA - 51 points
Robertson / VVD/ Salah - 64 points
Robertson / VVD / Mane - 61 points

Robertson/ TAA / Salah - 63 points
Robertson/ TAA / Mane - 60 points

TAA/ VVD / Salah - 59 points
TAA / VVD / Mane - 56 points

Think that's all the options anyway. Triple Pool defence looking the worst so far but a combo of x2 defenders +1 midfielders looking the best.
Apologies if any errors.

Top 3 :

Robertson / VVD/ Salah - 64 points
Robertson/ TAA / Salah - 63 points
Robertson / VVD / Mane - 61 points

I've had Robertson - Mane - Salah from the start (20+25+28) = 73points just under half of my points total (144points) .... triple sheff utd defence has cost me lol - 1 cleanie so far.
On a Wildcard this week so .... will see what I can turn my team into.

Ace2007

Chesty08 wrote: »

Just checked Top 100k points and my current standing of 1.3m OR

There is a 36 point gap.

Bit of calm required, if that gap doesn’t widen before the Int break then all is not lost. A few good GW’s and we’ll be right up there.

That's basically a Salah/Son/Vardy captain pick right there.

Ace2007

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

The triple Liverpool with 2+ defensive assets breakdown:

Robertson / VVD / TAA - 51 points
Robertson / VVD/ Salah - 64 points
Robertson / VVD / Mane - 61 points

Robertson/ TAA / Salah - 63 points
Robertson/ TAA / Mane - 60 points

TAA/ VVD / Salah - 59 points
TAA / VVD / Mane - 56 points

Think that's all the options anyway. Triple Pool defence looking the worst so far but a combo of x2 defenders +1 midfielders looking the best.
Apologies if any errors.

Top 3 :

Robertson / VVD/ Salah - 64 points
Robertson/ TAA / Salah - 63 points
Robertson / VVD / Mane - 61 points

One thing though that you haven't taken into consideration is the cost - for example the cost of 3 defenders is cheaper than 2 + Salah/Mane

Being curious at start of season, i set up a "set and forget" team with the 3 pool defenders and captain on TAA every week. The team is only 26 points behind my real team. Sometimes we over complicate the game.

As for my real team - Robbo/TAA/Salah be there for the season unless there are injuries. Obv doesn't leave me much wriggle room for transfers with double poo defence but when you see them conceding last night and still get 17 points - just got to ride out the 1 pointers.

Shanotheslayer

The triple Liverpool with 2+ defensive assets breakdown:

Robertson / VVD / TAA - 51 points
Robertson / VVD/ Salah - 64 points
Robertson / VVD / Mane - 61 points

Robertson/ TAA / Salah - 63 points
Robertson/ TAA / Mane - 60 points

TAA/ VVD / Salah - 59 points
TAA / VVD / Mane - 56 points

Think that's all the options anyway. Triple Pool defence looking the worst so far but a combo of x2 defenders +1 midfielders looking the best.
Apologies if any errors.

Top 3 :

Robertson / VVD/ Salah - 64 points
Robertson/ TAA / Salah - 63 points
Robertson / VVD / Mane - 61 points

Chesty08

Just checked Top 100k points and my current standing of 1.3m OR

There is a 36 point gap.

Bit of calm required, if that gap doesn’t widen before the Int break then all is not lost. A few good GW’s and we’ll be right up there.

nullObjects

How I feel when I score below average but still like my team:

Morzadec

Ace2007 wrote: »

They can't really do that though - as they have set a precedence - especially for some of the handball's that we've seen - they basically are stuck with the rule until next season imo.

I think Ace is right here, everything I've read is that this is based on a firm rule handed down from FIFA. It's not the ref making a decision as such, it's very much out of their hands.

Even Hosgson in his interview seemed to suggest that the referees think it's ludicrous as well. I'd be very confident that the refs are looking at those monitors thinking "This is absurd, this should never be a penalty, but the directive is clear and is telling me that I should give a pen here".

I don't think they can change the rules mid-season.

I think the ridiculous handballs are here to stay, for this season at the very least.

Teams might get a bit better at trying to mitigate against it, but based on the ludicrousness of the rules there's always going to be a good chance a ball ricochets off a player's hand who is jumping, turning, being touch tight on their attacker or any other kind of natural/normal movement you make in football.

Therefore I do think we will continue to see a lot of penalties like this given this season. Maybe not at the accelerated rate of the last 3 weeks, but the rule will be there and it will lead to penos imo.

Ace2007

siblers wrote: »

Ah fair enough, wonder will Zaha stay on them ahead of PVA if Mili isn't on the pitch

Sure PVA will be staying on the bench playing second fiddle to Mitchell so we'll have nothing to worry about

:pac:

siblers

Shedite27 wrote: »

PVA wasn't on the pitch when that happened tho. Last season against West Ham, Mili wasn't playing, Zaha, PVA and Ayew were, and PVA took it (and scored)

Ah fair enough, wonder will Zaha stay on them ahead of PVA if Mili isn't on the pitch

Shedite27

siblers wrote: »

Zaha took their last penalty and he scored so PVA is third on the list, possibly 4th with Ayew :pac:

PVA wasn't on the pitch when that happened tho. Last season against West Ham, Mili wasn't playing, Zaha, PVA and Ayew were, and PVA took it (and scored)

ThunbergsAreGo

Gone are the days of the penalty taking defenders

siblers

Shedite27 wrote: »

Palace with their traditional 10 penalties a season, Milivojevic on the bench, attacking threat and decent defence, currently 0.1% ownership (albeit injured)

Zaha took their last penalty and he scored so PVA is third on the list, possibly 4th with Ayew :pac:

Shedite27

shineon23 wrote: »

Crystal Palace: Milivojevic, Van Aanholt, Zaha, Jordan Ayew

Palace with their traditional 10 penalties a season, Milivojevic on the bench, attacking threat and decent defence, currently 0.1% ownership (albeit injured)

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shineon23

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks lazy and outdated to me.

You’d think with the fee they charge they could do better than that and especially as people are looking at penalty takers more than ever.

It should be updated weekly to reflect injuries too.

That’s truly shocking and embarrassing for a ‘leading’ FPL subscription service.

wonski wrote: »

Set piece takers are free to see.

I can see them without paying

Yeah it was free for me to see. I wouldn't dare pay for content

Ace2007 wrote: »

They are available on the FPL website updated to Sept 22nd

https://fantasy.premierleague.com/the-scout/set-piece-takers

Looks to be same lists as i linked from scout site which alos claims to be updated to 22nd September.

Gives a rough guide if nothing else.

Ace2007

They are available on the FPL website updated to Sept 22nd

https://fantasy.premierleague.com/the-scout/set-piece-takers

wonski

Set piece takers are free to see.

I can see them without paying

[Deleted User]

Looks lazy and outdated to me.

You’d think with the fee they charge they could do better than that and especially as people are looking at penalty takers more than ever.

It should be updated weekly to reflect injuries too.

That’s truly shocking and embarrassing for a ‘leading’ FPL subscription service.

shineon23

Fitz* wrote: »

21 penalties in 25 games so far this season.

Shedite27 wrote: »

Love me some Fantasy Penalty League

Just going to leave this here.

I think I might put this on my main bookmark bar. :pac:

Penalty takers: Not sure how accurate they all are.

Source: https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/fantasy-premier-league-set-piece-takers/

Club Penalties

Arsenal: Aubameyang, Pepe, Lacazette

Aston Villa: Wesley, El Ghazi, Grealish

Brighton and Hove Albion: Maupay, Groß

Burnley: Barnes, Wood, Rodriguez

Chelsea: Jorginho, Barkley, Abraham

Crystal Palace: Milivojevic, Van Aanholt, Zaha, Jordan Ayew

Everton: Richarlison, Sigurdsson, Kean

Fulham: Mitrovic, Kamara

Leeds United: Klich, Bamford

Leicester City: Vardy, Ayoze Pérez, Tielemans, Maddison, Iheanacho

Liverpool: Salah, Milner, Mane, Firmino

Manchester City: De Bruyne, Aguero, Gündogan, Mahrez, Jesus, Sterling

Manchester United: Bruno Fernandes, Rashford, Pogba, Martial, Mata, Lingard

Newcastle United: C Wilson, Ritchie

Sheffield United: Lundstram, Norwood, McGoldrick, Sharp,

Southampton: Ings, Ward-Prowse

Tottenham Hotspur: Kane, Son, Alli

West Bromwich Albion: Austin, Robson-Kanu, Zohore

West Ham United: Noble, Antonio, Lanzini

Wolverhampton Wanderers: Raúl Jiménez, Ruben Neves

Shedite27

Fitz* wrote: »

21 penalties in 25 games so far this season.

Love me some Fantasy Penalty League

How Soon Is Now

Just goes to show how quickly things can change in this game! Coming into the weekend I was confident enough with my start didn't wanna change to much second in my paid league now today ****ed me big style

Already made my transfer so hopefully Salah won't go too wild tomorrow and Mitro can bag a few to make things a bit more positive.

Fitz*

21 penalties in 25 games so far this season.

Shedite27

Shedite27 wrote: »

I wonder if yesterday’s penalties will be a bit of a turning point for VAR penalties. Two very dubious ones, might be a bit of a “let’s cool the penalties” memo among the refs

Nope!

Ace2007

GetWithIt wrote: »

I recall a similar kerfuffle around dragging shirts at corners a few years back. A rake of penalties in the first few weeks, then it was quickly forgotten

I think the lack of dragging now a days is the reason why we get so many goals - no idea how to defend properly. Nowadays with VAR the ref cannot simply say they didn't see it

[Deleted User]

GetWithIt wrote: »

I recall a similar kerfuffle around dragging shirts at corners a few years back. A rake of penalties in the first few weeks, then it was quickly forgotten

The problem here is both yourself or Ace could be right.

It’s annoying because my gut says they’ll calm down and stop giving so many penalties but we don’t and won’t actually know as they’ll never come out and address it.

GetWithIt

I recall a similar kerfuffle around dragging shirts at corners a few years back. A rake of penalties in the first few weeks, then it was quickly forgotten

Ace2007

Shedite27 wrote: »

I wonder if yesterday’s penalties will be a bit of a turning point for VAR penalties. Two very dubious ones, might be a bit of a “let’s cool the penalties” memo among the refs

They can't really do that though - as they have set a precedence - especially for some of the handball's that we've seen - they basically are stuck with the rule until next season imo.

Shedite27

I wonder if yesterday’s penalties will be a bit of a turning point for VAR penalties. Two very dubious ones, might be a bit of a “let’s cool the penalties” memo among the refs

Shanotheslayer

Incredible save to deny Lundstrum

Edit: Woops wrong thread