John Doe1 wrote: » If you consider yourself to hold liberal values, mass migration of people of the the muslim faith should be a worry.( In the same way, if there was a mass migration of Scientologists it would be a worry) It is absolutely nothing to do with skin colour. From the far right publication of the Guardian:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ity-sharia-law -50% of all UK muslims think homosexuality should be illegal. -23% want Sharia law in UK.
Gervais08 wrote: » The other half of a friend of mine works in a third level institution, big on diversity; equality - all the usual good stuff. The parent of a Muslim student asked that a “obviously homosexual” (their phrase ugh!) be removed from their son’s accommodation. The Uni in question (in the south of the country) is actually thinking about how to reply. I know “f**k off bigot” is uncool but apparently there are staff who want to allow it.
[Deleted User] wrote: » TBH I can't see the problem. If the university has control over the allocation of rooms and who shares with whom, then it does't sound so bad a request. I think it's pretty bad to force acceptance on to others... As long, as they're not seeking to discriminate, or cause nasty things to happen, there's no harm with being separated from each other, even if that's based on sexual preferences. We often still separate based on gender/sex, and find it acceptable. (And yes, being Bisexual since my teens I have a fair understanding of what actual discrimination or hate is like. I just think forcing acceptance tends to lead to a major pushback) I understand your pov, but honestly, I don't see a problem with the request... as long as the gay guy isn't being penalised in some way. Many universities control the allocation of rooms in certain establishments, especially when sponsorship or grants are concerned.
Gervais08 wrote: » From what I understand student housing is really sought after and this particular digs is first come, first served. If the request is granted the gay student would be financially worse off and likely inconvenienced. Plus why should one person with Stone Age views be allowed to demand who lives in a building ??? Can you imagine if a Galway lad said he didn’t want to live with a Muslim??? It’s be the subject of a Claire Byrne!!
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » I guess i am going to have to educate on the part of my post you chose to completely ignore. less than 1% of the population of Ireland is part of the traveling community. Yet they make up 22% of the female prison population they account for 15% of the male prison population. These are the stats I referred to.
xvril wrote: » I bet you could draw up similar statistics about black people in America. Does anyone ever ask why there are so many in prison? Or is it just ahh they're travellers thats what they do.
AllForIt wrote: » Are they sharing the same bedroom? If not that is outrageous, and if so it is the Muslim that should move because he's the one with the problem. The idea of bending to his religious beliefs (if that is what is truly going on) is unconscionable.
Gervais08 wrote: » I take klaz’s point absolutely but it is simply wrong that someone from overseas can demand an Irish person is treated differently because of their “culture” back home. But even worse that it is being entertained!!!
Geuze wrote: » This is the conundrum facing the PC-brigade. Who do they love more? The homosexuals? Or the muslim immigrants? It's a challenge / dilemma. On the one hand, they want to embrace same-sex marriage / lesbians, etc., yet at the same time, they wish to welcome, and accomodate people who have no time for homosexuality. Tricky.
Slowyourrole wrote: » Except the only people who generally talk about allowing unchecked mass migration are right wing people. I'm not aware of any poster here or major party that argues in favour of it.
Hamachi wrote: » Welcome to thread. Bit of background. I'm a regular Irish guy, late 30s, with a young family. I work long hours and pay a lot of tax. I'm happy to do this, primarily to support my family, but also because I see myself as a stakeholder, contributing to the betterment of Irish society. I'm in no way unique; my situation is replicated in tens of thousands of households across the country. I'd like to ask you a direct question if I may. Can you provide a short, numbered list (say 1-3 or 1-5) of the tangible benefits I and my family accrue from multiculturalism? I'd really appreciate a few line items, listing the rewards both individuals and Irish society can expect to reap.
Hamachi wrote: » I’m not sure if PBP or Labour are considered major parties. However, their attempts to overturn the 27th amendment, a change instituted by the overwhelming democratic will of the Irish people, is a clear step towards unrestrained mass migration.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » Indeed, they will attack anyone that even dares to question them, go on about womens right, gays right etc...which i agree with, but defend the very same arab people who treat women like absolute slaves, and dont get me started on the old arabs marring teenage brides, etc why dont these people who love to dictate and preach hold the same values and be as dogmatic to the arabs ? is it because they are hypocrites ?
Wibbs wrote: » What I don't understand is their aim in this? The Irish people in a clear majority, one of the highest in any vote in recent decades, rejected this legislation, legislation that no other EU nation has, legislation that is ripe for exploitation and was exploited in the past. When you consider that the vast majority of those who settled here on the back of that loophole would be refused entry today it makes no sense. Never mind that it was rejected at the height of an economic boom when people tend to be more open to such things, yet with one hard economic landing behind us and a highly likely recession because of the pandemic they're pushing to retract that decision without putting it to the Irish people? Never mind part two that the usual "reason" given is we need more people, when Ireland has the highest birth rate in the EU. I would love to hear what their reasoning behind this push is.
kildare lad wrote: » I copied and pasted that below of google. Diverse cultural perspectives can inspire creativity and drive innovation Local market knowledge and insight makes a business more competitive and profitable Cultural sensitivity, insight, and local knowledge means higher quality, targeted marketing Drawing from a culturally diverse talent pool allows an organization to attract and retain the best talent A diverse skills base allows an organization to offer a broader and more adaptable range of products and services Diverse teams are more productive and perform better Greater opportunity for personal and professional growth
TheBlackPill wrote: » Not hypocrites. Just afraid of the arab/muslim
Wibbs wrote: » What I don't understand is their aim in this? The Irish people in a clear majority, one of the highest in any vote in recent decades, rejected this legislation, legislation that no other EU nation has, legislation that is ripe for exploitation and was exploited in the past. When you consider that the vast majority of those who settled here on the back of that loophole would be refused entry today it makes no sense.
Wibbs wrote: » Except for the very first sentence, the rest assume an existing multicultural society and most importantly how to sell to them. It's not exactly a great list of positives for the politic itself and as you've pointed out Japan doesn't suffer because of its lack of "diversity" and neither do the rest of the East Asian nations, who for the most part have resisted this politic. I don't see fear, what I see is old style European orientalism, the fascination with the exotic, a fascination that is centuries old.
kildare lad wrote: » Diverse cultural perspectives can inspire creativity and drive innovation Local market knowledge and insight makes a business more competitive and profitable Cultural sensitivity, insight, and local knowledge means higher quality, targeted marketing Drawing from a culturally diverse talent pool allows an organization to attract and retain the best talent A diverse skills base allows an organization to offer a broader and more adaptable range of products and services Diverse teams are more productive and perform better Greater opportunity for personal and professional growth
excludedbin wrote: » "Debate is suppressed" he says, without a shred of irony, on one of multiple threads on this site alone that do nothing but mock and condemn anyone who isn't rabidly anti-immigrant.What's the point of debate with someone that detached from reality? It's like the kind of dope who says "I know I'm not allowed say this thing I'm about to say right now and no one will actually stop me".
macpaccrack wrote: » Another hit and run done on a foreign national. Left to die on the road probably by some Irish scumbags joyriding the back roads.
Deleted User wrote: » And? What's the relevance?