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  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    At 2:19 for a minute or so is worth a watch. Shows how HSE own figures indicate just a 100 people have actually died from corona. Goes on from there.

    100 or so have died from covid alone. We already knew this. However covid was the cause of death in the other deaths too. ie, if they didn't get covid theyd still be alive.

    Debunked: The claims in this Facebook video about suicide figures and number of Covid deaths in Ireland are inaccurate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    Now you're thinking. Of course the measures brought in won't be going away because "a new corona might come about!".
    .
    Lol.
    Ok.

    So when exactly will this one world government be installed?

    Will it before or after the rapture?


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    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Considering that that's exactly what they're doing, I think it's reasonable for people to believe that there may be something sinister behind all of this.

    Explain the “reasonable” part


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol.
    Ok.

    So when exactly will this one world government be installed?

    Will it before or after the rapture?

    You seem to have your own ideas there chief... We've surrendered more freedoms, cheerfully, for a virus with a minimal IFR. I bet the governments of the world can't believe how well it's going!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    Now you're thinking. Of course the measures brought in won't be going away because "a new corona might come about!".

    Mind you, if the next one has an IFR of about 10,000 times corona's then they might be legit.

    Not for nothing did the UK Government called it the Coronavirus Act and not the COVID-19 Act, an act that they're going to try to extend for a further two years in the coming days.

    In order for a great reset to take place, the old way of life, and the society that went with it, has to be destroyed and reset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    You seem to have your own ideas there chief...
    Why? You're suggesting there's a plot to use the virus to form a one world government.
    That's very silly.
    It's the same level of silliness as belief in the rapture and other apocalyptic nonsense.

    You've kinda shot your credibility in the foot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    I see Fauci is on the Late Late tonight. Wonder if Ryan will ask him why he was telling everyone masks didn't work all that long ago, and what changed?

    Of course not though, RTE is cheif cheerleader for whats going on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    You seem to have your own ideas there chief... We've surrendered more freedoms, cheerfully, for a virus with a minimal IFR. I bet the governments of the world can't believe how well it's going!

    The power of propaganda.

    It's coming to something when there is more freedom in China than in the West. There was an article on the RTÉ website a week or so ago about a man who lives in China. He said there was no requirement to wear masks in public, shops, restaurants etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    I see Fauci is on the Late Late tonight. Wonder if Ryan will ask him why he was telling everyone masks didn't work all that long ago, and what changed?

    Of course not though, RTE is cheif cheerleader for whats going on

    Are the RTE involved in the One World Government plot?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    I see Fauci is on the Late Late tonight. Wonder if Ryan will ask him why he was telling everyone masks didn't work all that long ago, and what changed?

    Of course not though, RTE is cheif cheerleader for whats going on

    That man has single-handedly destroyed all of humanity's natural instincts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why? You're suggesting there's a plot to use the virus to form a one world government.
    That's very silly.
    It's the same level of silliness as belief in the rapture and other apocalyptic nonsense.

    You've kinda shot your credibility in the foot.

    You're the one arguing against something I never said! You seem obsessed with rapture.
    IFR from the CDC

    0-19 years: 0.00003
    20-49 years: 0.0002
    50-69 years: 0.005
    70+ years: 0.054


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    King Mob wrote: »
    Are the RTE involved in the One World Government plot?

    RTE are a big component of the fear and societal nudging in Ireland. You seriously can't argue against that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    You're the one arguing against something I never said! You seem obsessed with rapture.
    But you believe that there's a plot to create a one world government?
    That's very very silly.

    The idea of a rapture and various other religious apocalyptic nonsense is a common idea in your fellow believers in a one world government plot.
    That's where the conspiracy theory originally comes from.

    So why do you not believe that.
    ranto_boy wrote: »
    RTE are a big component of the fear and societal nudging in Ireland. You seriously can't argue against that.
    Ok. SO they are part of the one world government plot.

    That's also very silly.
    Is it all of RTE or just parts or individuals?
    I've a friend who works there, would they be privy to the one world government plot?


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    The power of propaganda.

    It's coming to something when there is more freedom in China than in the West. There was an article on the RTÉ website a week or so ago about a man who lives in China. He said there was no requirement to wear masks in public, shops, restaurants etc.

    If it were just China, I'd be suspicious but other countries which haven't "lockeddown" seem to be getting on with it. Like Sweden. Looks more attractive by the day :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    If it were just China, I'd be suspicious but other countries which haven't "lockeddown" seem to be getting on with it. Like Sweden. Looks more attractive by the day :)

    You're right, it's not only China, but I just mentioned China because who could ever have thought that the day would come when there was more freedom in China than in the formerly free West.

    It's still a brutal country, but no masks in public, shops or restaurants (according to the man featured in the article) means there is more freedom, at least in respect of masks, in China than in countries such as Spain or France where people are forced to wear them 24/7.


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    King Mob wrote: »
    But you believe that there's a plot to create a one world government?
    That's very very silly.

    The idea of a rapture and various other religious apocalyptic nonsense is a common idea in your fellow believers in a one world government plot.
    That's where the conspiracy theory originally comes from.

    So why do you not believe that.

    Ok. SO they are part of the one world government plot.

    That's also very silly.
    Is it all of RTE or just parts or individuals?
    I've a friend who works there, would they be privy to the one world government plot?

    Ok, I am getting a bit tired of your constant nagging, muddy water, bringing up topics I never said etc etc. So let me be clear:

    Your interest in the rapture is not shared by me. By all means go nuts on it. The most I know of it was in that movie Left Behind which Netflix told me was a scifi :) Thanks Netflix, I want two hours of my life back :)

    I do not know if there's a plot for a one world government. Maybe, maybe not.

    I do think the authoritarian swing in a lot of western countries, the restriction of freedoms, the near police state measures, the "new normal" are very, very bad things. I do think they're here for the long haul.

    I do think the dangers of corona are being played up.

    Hope that clears it up. If you start accusing me again of stuff and positions to which I've never spoken on, I'm just gonna block. As said, it's tiresome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    Ok, I am getting a bit tired of your constant nagging, muddy water, bringing up topics I never said etc etc. So let me be clear:

    Your interest in the rapture is not shared by me
    Cool.
    But it is shared by many of the people who subscribed to your beliefs.
    The idea of a one world government plot is equally as silly and nonsensical.
    The idea of a one world government plot in part comes from religious apocalyptic beliefs.
    ranto_boy wrote: »
    I do not know if there's a plot for a one world government. Maybe, maybe not.
    There isn't.
    Just like there isn't going to be a rapture.
    Both ideas can be dismissed as nonsense out of hand.

    But because you're entertaining the idea, it shows that you aren't thinking very rationally or critically.
    ranto_boy wrote: »
    I do think the dangers of corona are being played up.
    But this doesn't seem to be based on very much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    Ok, I am getting a bit tired of your constant nagging, muddy water, bringing up topics I never said etc etc. So let me be clear:

    Your interest in the rapture is not shared by me. By all means go nuts on it. The most I know of it was in that movie Left Behind which Netflix told me was a scifi :) Thanks Netflix, I want two hours of my life back :)

    I do not know if there's a plot for a one world government. Maybe, maybe not.

    I do think the authoritarian swing in a lot of western countries, the restriction of freedoms, the near police state measures, the "new normal" are very, very bad things. I do think they're here for the long haul.

    I do think the dangers of corona are being played up.

    Hope that clears it up. If you start accusing me again of stuff and positions to which I've never spoken on, I'm just gonna block. As said, it's tiresome.

    I don't get why it's so silly to believe that there actors out there that desire for there to be a one world government. The Secretary-General of the UN said the other day that "no one wants a world government". Do you think that statement was followed by a "but"?

    We have a world court (the International Court of Justice), the UN, which is a global, or world, union of nations, the EU, a union so powerful that it reduces its members to mere provinces with very limited power, and a world bank.

    We have countries all around the world taking very similar, if not identical, measures, which suggests that they are working in lockstep with each other. We have WEF pushing the Great Reset, which will change the world, and we're 7 months into a two week lockdown.

    And to question any of this is to be a conspiracy theorist? The mind boggles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    That man has single-handedly destroyed all of humanity's natural instincts.

    Ah here!

    Tubridy is bad but he's not THAT bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »

    And to question any of this is to be a conspiracy theorist? The mind boggles.
    If you are suggesting there's a global secret plot to form a single totalitarian world government, then yes, by definition you are a conspiracy theorist.

    And it's a very silly conspiracy theory at that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Ah here!

    Tubridy is bad but he's not THAT bad.

    I never thought the day would come when you'd have to ask a person if they shake hands before offering to shake hands with them. But because of that Fauci guy the handshake is in big trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    They, them, the gubbermint, new world order, etc.

    You people do realise you're free to set up your own political party, or run as an independent, in the next general election?

    If everyone's as worried about the evil government robbing their freedom as you think*, it should be a breeze if you run on a platform of openness and revealing the conspiracy.

    Then you'll be part of "them", and have access to all the secrets and can blow the lid on the whole thing with proof.
    But oddly enough you people always seem happier to just post dodgy links and encourage pointless protests than actually do anything practical.

    *Of course it may be that you'll get three votes as more people recognise this as being an incompetent government that don't have a clue what they're doing making it up as they go along, rather than a massive conspiracy. No doubt you'll dismiss it a masterstroke of misdirection, but we're talking about a government that spent ages on a new 5 stage plan, hired a PR company to help launch it, and still managed to produce a contradictory piece of nonsense and temporarily shut themselves down by the minister of health going to work sick on launch day. The three stooges would be more capable of sustaining a years long conspiracy than this lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    If you are suggesting there's a global secret plot to form a single totalitarian world government, then yes, by definition you are a conspiracy theorist.

    And it's a very silly conspiracy theory at that.

    I'd agree, were it not for the evidence that may suggest that there are actors out there who want world government is a possibility, such as:

    1. The Secretary-General of the UN referring to global governance and a world government on numerous occasions in the past couple of months.

    2. The WEF pushing the Great Reset. They're not calling it the Gentle Reset. A reset is very different from a restart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    MOH wrote: »
    They, them, the gubbermint, new world order, etc.

    You people do realise you're free to set up your own political party, or run as an independent, in the next general election?

    If everyone's as worried about the evil government robbing their freedom as you think*, it should be a breeze if you run on a platform of openness and revealing the conspiracy.

    Then you'll be part of "them", and have access to all the secrets and can blow the lid on the whole thing with proof.
    But oddly enough you people always seem happier to just post dodgy links and encourage pointless protests than actually do anything practical.

    *Of course it may be that you'll get three votes as more people recognise this as being an incompetent government that don't have a clue what they're doing making it up as they go along, rather than a massive conspiracy. No doubt you'll dismiss it a masterstroke of misdirection, but we're talking about a government that spent ages on a new 5 stage plan, hired a PR company to help launch it, and still managed to produce a contradictory piece of nonsense and temporarily shut themselves down by the minister of health going to work sick on launch day. The three stooges would be more capable of sustaining a years long conspiracy than this lot.

    Like Gemma O'Doherty did?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I'd agree, were it not for the evidence that may suggest that there are actors out there who want world government is a possibility, such as:

    1. The Secretary-General of the UN referring to global governance and a world government on numerous occasions in the past couple of months.

    2. The WEF pushing the Great Reset. They're not calling it the Gentle Reset. A reset is very different from a restart.
    But plenty of conspiracy theorists claim they have evidence too.

    This stuff has been explained to you before.
    Not sure why you think it's going to be suddenly convincing or will make your conspiracy theories rational...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Simple facts at hand are that:

    The WEF (The Great Reset 2021) is a globalist (or one world type) organisation, same goes for
    The Davos meetup (The Great Reset 2021), closely associated by {unelected} Bilderberg meetup (The Great Reset 2021)
    same for GAVI (The Great Reset 2021).

    GAVI (the global vaccine allianace) is directly funded by Gates (global voice of vaccines) and of course the money tree that is the Rockerfellers.
    The latter also are implimenting the CommonPass global DigitalID system in association with id2020.org, a new global travel ID system for The Great Reset 2021 designed for every airport in the world, if you get a red light, you do will not board any plane.

    Like many of these global themed projects, the WEF CommonPass Framework in reaction to COVID, will very likely become a 'permanent measure'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    MOH wrote: »
    They, them, the gubbermint, new world order, etc.

    You people do realise you're free to set up your own political party, or run as an independent, in the next general election?

    If everyone's as worried about the evil government robbing their freedom as you think*, it should be a breeze if you run on a platform of openness and revealing the conspiracy.

    Then you'll be part of "them", and have access to all the secrets and can blow the lid on the whole thing with proof.
    But oddly enough you people always seem happier to just post dodgy links and encourage pointless protests than actually do anything practical.

    *Of course it may be that you'll get three votes as more people recognise this as being an incompetent government that don't have a clue what they're doing making it up as they go along, rather than a massive conspiracy. No doubt you'll dismiss it a masterstroke of misdirection, but we're talking about a government that spent ages on a new 5 stage plan, hired a PR company to help launch it, and still managed to produce a contradictory piece of nonsense and temporarily shut themselves down by the minister of health going to work sick on launch day. The three stooges would be more capable of sustaining a years long conspiracy than this lot.

    Not a single government has said when all of the restrictions will be lifted. There's no end date. At least in the US there are places where mask mandates have been lifted (counties, towns, for example), and governors can't declare an indefinite state of emergency. They have to renew it every few weeks, or every month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,023 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I never thought the day would come when you'd have to ask a person if they shake hands before offering to shake hands with them. But because of that Fauci guy the handshake is in big trouble.

    Good I hate shaking hands. What a weird way to greet when you think about it. Just say Hi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But plenty of conspiracy theorists claim they have evidence too.

    This stuff has been explained to you before.
    Not sure why you think it's going to be suddenly convincing or will make your conspiracy theories rational...

    What do you think will happen in Davos in September of next year?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,023 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Simple facts at hand are that:

    The WEF (The Great Reset 2021) is a globalist (or one world type) organisation, same goes for
    The Davos meetup (The Great Reset 2021), closely associated by {unelected} Bilderberg meetup (The Great Reset 2021)
    same for GAVI (The Great Reset 2021).

    GAVI (the global vaccine allianace) is directly funded by Gates (global voice of vaccines) and of course the money tree that is the Rockerfellers.
    The latter also are implimenting the CommonPass global DigitalID system in association with id2020.org, a new global travel ID system for The Great Reset 2021 designed for every airport in the world, if you get a red light, you do will not board any plane.

    Like many of these global themed projects, the WEF CommonPass Framework in reaction to COVID, will very likely become a 'permanent measure'.

    Those are not facts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,023 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    The power of propaganda.

    It's coming to something when there is more freedom in China than in the West. There was an article on the RTÉ website a week or so ago about a man who lives in China. He said there was no requirement to wear masks in public, shops, restaurants etc.

    Tell that to the Uigurs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,023 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    RTE are a big component of the fear and societal nudging in Ireland. You seriously can't argue against that.

    Any notion that RTE are involved in a complex world plot is giving RTE too much credit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Those are not facts

    What in Accumulator's post isn't true? I don't much about the Commonpass project, but an international health passport is being developed as we speak:

    https://windsorstar.com/news/windsor-selected-for-testing-of-international-health-passport

    It's a bit confusing, however. It's called an international health passport, but seems to be for health workers only.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Tell that to the Uigurs

    I said it was a brutal country, and it's terrible what they do to the Uyghurs.

    I was specifically talking about masks. Sorry, I should've made that clearer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    What do you think will happen in Davos in September of next year?

    I don't know.
    I don't think you know either as you don't seem to have very rational thinking in this area and seem to want there to be a conspiracy that you've cracked.

    It's all very silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Good I hate shaking hands. What a weird way to greet when you think about it. Just say Hi

    What about after a football match, or a job interview? No handshakes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    I don't know.
    I don't think you know either as you don't seem to have very rational thinking in this area and seem to want there to be a conspiracy that you've cracked.

    It's all very silly.

    I don't know for sure, but I told you what I fear might happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I never thought the day would come when you'd have to ask a person if they shake hands before offering to shake hands with them. But because of that Fauci guy the handshake is in big trouble.

    I never liked shaking hands anyway, so many manky feckers out there going to the toilet and not washing their hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I don't know for sure, but I told you what I fear might happen.
    Yes, and you have an irrational fear because you believe in silly nonsensical conspiracy theories you found on the internet and never questioned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Not a single government has said when all of the restrictions will be lifted. There's no end date. At least in the US there are places where mask mandates have been lifted (counties, towns, for example), and governors can't declare an indefinite state of emergency. They have to renew it every few weeks, or every month.

    Not sure why you bothered posting that in reply to me, since you didn't bother to address the basic question I asked.

    Would you care to provide evidence of any of these open-ended restrictions that have been passed in Ireland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes, and you have an irrational fear because you believe in silly nonsensical conspiracy theories you found on the internet and never questioned.

    I always question what I read. I always look at both sides of the argument. But the head of WEF, Klaus Schwab, has said that every aspect of society and human behaviour has to be reset. That sounds dramatic to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I said it was a brutal country, and it's terrible what they do to the Uyghurs.

    I was specifically talking about masks. Sorry, I should've made that clearer.
    Indeed, there are now 380 detention camps in Xinjiang, for the Uyghurs.

    Much like the coming new Global Travel DigitalID system, they have to spend much of their days scanning QRCodes to get past doors and entrances, even now when shopping for certain goods.

    The very few Uyghurs that were allowed to travel to Mecca (not the bingo place) had to wear GPS tags, incase they escaped got lost while over there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    I never liked shaking hands anyway, so many manky feckers out there going to the toilet and not washing their hands.

    I understand, and I get the hygiene argument, of course. But I play football and it used to be nice meeting the lads and shaking hands. Now we just stand around awkwardly and say hello.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    These Luciferian worshippers that own the privately owned US federal reserve and bank of international settlements wouldn't be worshipping the Devil if he wasn't real. We are getting closer to the anti Christ system being installed, and covid has speeded up this process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I always question what I read.

    But that's not true.
    If you questioned your conspiracy theories at all, you'd realise they are nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    MOH wrote: »
    Not sure why you bothered posting that in reply to me, since you didn't bother to address the basic question I asked.

    Would you care to provide evidence of any of these open-ended restrictions that have been passed in Ireland?

    Sorry, I thought what I wrote was relevant to what you posted.

    There's been no criteria outlined for the lifting of the mask mandate. Nor for social distancing. No word on when, if ever, nightclubs will reopen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But that's not true.
    If you questioned your conspiracy theories at all, you'd realise they are nonsense.

    I don't believe The Great Reset is nonsense or a conspiracy theory. In fact, I don't believe any of the things I've referred to to be conspiracy theories.

    And I do get both sides. Otherwise it'd be overwhelming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    These Luciferian worshippers that own the privately owned US federal reserve and bank of international settlements wouldn't be worshipping the Devil if he wasn't real. We are getting closer to the anti Christ system being installed, and covid has speeded up this process.

    Your post made me think of Bohemian Grove. God knows what does be going on there:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove


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  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    King Mob wrote: »
    But this doesn't seem to be based on very much.

    I've posted the stats, we know the groups in danger, we know the risks. There are not what is protrayed in the media.
    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Any notion that RTE are involved in a complex world plot is giving RTE too much credit

    I literally never said that. What is it with you guys and muddying the waters?


    This is borderline hysterical

    https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1309479255273811968/video/1


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