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PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

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Mark Cerny has been showing off the dev kit:

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console

PS5 FAQ:
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5-the-ultimate-faq/#sf239758641

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The Raging Bile Duct

What if somebody buys a launch console and then sells it at a vastly inflated price to help fund Tiny Tim's leg operation?

keano25

Can get one of these consoles reserved anywhere..

I guess this is the year the young lad finds out there's no such thing as Santa..

[Deleted User]

dan786 wrote: »

But they may be stopping someone who actually wanted a Xbox from getting one when they have no intention of using it themselves.

Not the most clever strategy overall but once again not remotely the same as profiting.

dan786

Deleted User wrote: »

A swap is not remotely similar. Both items have the same price. If anything they sound like somebody who actually wants to play the console and they won't be profiting.

But they may be stopping someone who actually wanted a Xbox from getting one when they have no intention of using it themselves.

dan786

Anyone still on the look out, follow this:

https://www.hotukdeals.com/discussions/ps5-pre-order-info-thread-subscribe-3544651?page=142#thread-comments

[Deleted User]

dan786 wrote: »

Well it will be cold and rainy all day everyday anyway in Winter. Its not going to stop them. You can just waste their time but it wont affect the usual ones. They will sell them either way.

There are now a few Series X ad being used to try and get a PS5 swap. I would be against that too as they are stopping someone who wanted one of those from getting it just so they can use it as a tactic to get a swap.

But no ones going to call them names - they are equally as bad imo.

A swap is not remotely similar. Both items have the same price. If anything they sound like somebody who actually wants to play the console and they won't be profiting.

The Raging Bile Duct

Mango Joe wrote: »

In fairness the thing that riles people up is that they are both taking a console out of a true gaming fans grasp while cynically and callously robbing someone else with a huge mark-up - This is very harmful to the gaming community :mad:

The Iron Giant

MrStuffins wrote: »

Lol.

Nope, there have been many times i've spotted a game on amazon for €20 when it's still €60 on the PS Store.

Also, I can't count the number of times since I got my first Atari back in the day that one of my mates has said "Have you played X? I just finished it. Here you go"

The €100 will pay for itself very quickly. and considering i'll have the machine for 5-6 years, paying extra up front will be the smart move.

To add to this, I still have blu-rays as well from some of my favourite films. Sure, some of them have ended up on Netflix or Prime but some haven't. So if I want to watch Indiana Jones (and dno't want to wait til Christmas), I can break it out and watch it. Same with a number of quality films.

I'm of course not buying films as regularly as I used to on blu-ray, but I still pick up the odd one if I love it. And then it's mine forever.

dan786

Mango Joe wrote: »

Maybe multiple fake offers to meet and carry out the sale at 6am somewhere cold and rainy.....

Well it will be cold and rainy all day everyday anyway in Winter. Its not going to stop them. You can just waste their time but it wont affect the usual ones. They will sell them either way.

There are now a few Series X ad being used to try and get a PS5 swap. I would be against that too as they are stopping someone who wanted one of those from getting it just so they can use it as a tactic to get a swap.

But no ones going to call them names - they are equally as bad imo.

Mango Joe

dan786 wrote: »

I never understand why people call others names/abuse them. You are worse then them in my opinion.

I dont agree with what they do either but you cant stop them and they are not harming anyone. If someone is willing to pay that than they are the real issue.

Its going to happen whether you like it or not. There will be dozens on Adverts/Donedeal on release going for well over retail and people will be buying them.

In fairness the thing that riles people up is that they are both taking a console out of a true gaming fans grasp while cynically and callously robbing someone else with a huge mark-up - This is very harmful to the gaming community :mad:

I think they deserve the whole scam-baiter approach, ideally their phone/inbox should overflow with fake offers and whatever other tactical revenges it is possible to inflict.

Maybe multiple fake offers to meet and carry out the sale at 6am somewhere cold and rainy.....

MrStuffins

dan786 wrote: »

I never understand why people call others names/abuse them. You are worse then them in my opinion.

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Zero-Cool

Scalpers are dickheads, pure and simple. Maybe you're a scalper and know you're a dickhead, then no problem people calling you it. Maybe you're a scalper and think you're just being entrepreneurial, then no problem with people calling you a dickhead to help you realise that you are in fact a dickhead. Either way, no problem with scalpers being called anything. But in the end, it doesn't matter. Bad karma coming their way for inflicting extra stress on other people for their own monetary gains.

You = not anyone specific on this thread, unless you're a scalper.

dan786

Markitron wrote: »

So it is OK to profit from someone's misery, cos reasons, but its crossing the line to insult these people?

No its not ok but as I said the main problem is the sites that allow them. Go approach them to ban it. That would be more productive then name calling.

Sites banned tickets over face value so can do the same with other items.

Markitron

dan786 wrote: »

You shared you opinion and I shared mine. Thats how a discussion works. This is boards, if everyone just agreed with everything others said the forum would be dead soon.

In the end , the point is that yes it is wrong , I just dont like people being abusive/name calling.

So it is OK to profit from someone's misery, cos reasons, but its crossing the line to insult these people?

[Deleted User]

dan786 wrote: »

Lads the fact is its going to happen whether you like it or not. Happens across the world, several thousand ads on Ebay already. Its the same story every time. Just get over it as its going to happen every time.

You abusing someone is not going to stop it from happening.

I once had to pay 100 more for a phone at launch and I only paid it as I needed it that day as I was travelling.

The way they think is that if they dont do it someone else will so why not just make the extra buck.

I have said I dont agree with it but I dont see a need for calling names and abusing etc.

Nothing is going to stop it until those websites ban it. So go approach them first, that would be more productive use of your time then going to an ad just to call them a name etc. Websites are the main problem here. They did it with tickets so can do it with other items also.

It's not even abusing some specific person though. It's just viewing people as dicks for doing it. People viewing them as such does not make them as bad as the scalpers. It's also not limited to consoles. Imagine people who do it for iphones are viewed similarly. The GAA community loaths people who do it with all Ireland tickets.

dan786

unhappys10 wrote: »

Sure what's it to you if I think they're scum and say so?

You shared you opinion and I shared mine. Thats how a discussion works. This is boards, if everyone just agreed with everything others said the forum would be dead soon.

In the end , the point is that yes it is wrong , I just dont like people being abusive/name calling.

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fixXxer wrote: »

Are people really expecting no more stock between now and launch day?

i refuse to believe all stock is gone , hoping for more in the next few days

MrStuffins

Inquitus wrote: »

I agree, the only benefit of a Blu Ray drive is you can trade in games which is a dying trade anyways, noone watches blurays these days, so the €100 saved is a no brainer.

Lol.

Nope, there have been many times i've spotted a game on amazon for €20 when it's still €60 on the PS Store.

Also, I can't count the number of times since I got my first Atari back in the day that one of my mates has said "Have you played X? I just finished it. Here you go"

The €100 will pay for itself very quickly. and considering i'll have the machine for 5-6 years, paying extra up front will be the smart move.

unhappys10

dan786 wrote: »

Lads the fact is its going to happen whether you like it or not. Happens across the world, several thousand ads on Ebay already. Its the same story every time. Just get over it as its going to happen every time.

You abusing someone is not going to stop it from happening.

I once had to pay 100 more for a phone at launch and I only paid it as I needed it that day as I was travelling.

The way they think is that if they dont do it someone else will so why not just make the extra buck.

I have said I dont agree with it but I dont see a need for calling names and abusing etc.

Nothing is going to stop it until those websites ban it. So go approach them first. They are the main problem here. The did it with tickets so can do it with other items also.

Sure what's it to you if I think they're scum and say so?

Markitron

dan786 wrote: »

Lads the fact is its going to happen whether you like it or not. Happens across the world, several thousand ads on Ebay already. Its the same story every time. Just get over it as its going to happen every time.

You abusing someone is not going to stop it from happening.

If you do something unpleasant you will be called unpleasant things.

The Raging Bile Duct

I honestly couldn't be bothered wasting energy on getting annoyed about the practice.

dan786

Lads the fact is its going to happen whether you like it or not. Happens across the world, several thousand ads on Ebay already. Its the same story every time. Just get over it as its going to happen every time.

You abusing someone is not going to stop it from happening.

I once had to pay 100 more for a phone at launch and I only paid it as I needed it that day as I was travelling.

The way they think is that if they dont do it someone else will so why not just make the extra buck.

I have said I dont agree with it but I dont see a need for calling names and abusing etc.

Nothing is going to stop it until those websites ban it. So go approach them first, that would be more productive use of your time then going to an ad just to call them a name etc. Websites are the main problem here. They did it with tickets so can do it with other items also.

gimli2112

It's kind of like an exploit or glitch in a game. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should and you are going to piss people off.
Ultimately it's supply and demand, just a grubby little way to go about it.

fixXxer

Are people really expecting no more stock between now and launch day?

Inquitus

Markitron wrote: »

It is not like scalpers have some kind of market foresight, they literally are taking something away from someone to charge them double or triple the price minutes later. They are not entrepreneurs.

Exactly, they are the same scum as ticket touts, sadly not illegal like touting.

Markitron

It is not like scalpers have some kind of market foresight, they literally are taking something away from someone to charge them double or triple the price minutes later. They are not entrepreneurs.

I ended up pre-ordering 4 PS5s, but I let 3 of them go, I could easily have kept the 3 spares and made myself a tidy profit. The thought honestly crossed my mind but was quickly dismissed. It would be a ****ty thing to do to take someone's excitement for it and use it to extort them.

unhappys10

dan786 wrote: »

I never understand why people call others names/abuse them. You are worse then them in my opinion.

I dont agree with what they do either but you cant stop them and they are not harming anyone. If someone is willing to pay that than they are the real issue.

Its going to happen whether you like it or not. There will be dozens on Adverts/Donedeal on release going for well over retail and people will be buying them.

Absolute BS.

They know there will be limited supply.
They know they are competing with parents of kids, some of which are still into Santy and couldn't possibly understand why Santy couldn't give them what they want.
So they are basically taking away kids Xmas presents.
Or at the very least putting even more strain on families who no doubt have had a tough year already with the additional cost, I'd say that's harming people would you not?

Supply and demand is boll0x, they have no regard for others and are out to make a quick buck at the expense of everyone else.

I have pre-orders for Series X and PS5, I could stick them up for 1k each, but I won't, because I'm not a scumbag.

So tell me again, who is the d!ckhead or who is worse?

The Iron Giant

dan786 wrote: »

I don't agree with what they do either but you cant stop them and they are not harming anyone. If someone is willing to pay that than they are the real issue.

Well that's just not true. As grown adults we can all rationalize if we miss out on one one and hold out for an eventual release. Parents end up extremely stressed over being unable to find one for their kids (which is exacerbated by being locked down) and end up spending more than they can afford because they're desperate. I'm not a parent but I hear it every year the stress when kids want the "in product", be it a toy or game. And parents want to be good to their kids.

It's a bit like buying tickets and marking them up and saying what's the harm. Well the harm is that people who want them miss out and end up spending beyond their means because they're desperate.

Legally, sure there's nothing wrong with it. But morally, its gutter behaviour.

petes

dan786 wrote: »

If people have an issue with PS5 being sold for retailer then what about other things?

Webcams are going for twice their retail value on Adverts - Supply v Demand (work from home)

Every year iPhones sell for 200-300 over retail at launch on Adverts - Just so people can get them early they pay it.

Why do people only have an issue with consoles? I think its just that they couldnt get one and now are abusing others because they did and are making money off them as well.

Again I do not agree with it but would not shout abuse at anyone for doing it. If they can make quick money good for them.

Sclapers are dickheads regardless of what they are selling. They are only out to make money off others misfortune.

johnny_ultimate

dan786 wrote: »

Why do people only have an issue with consoles? I think its just that they couldnt get one and now are abusing others because they did and are making money off them as well.

I got a console and think reselling one for double the price is an asshole move.

Taking a console just to profiteer of it potentially deprives a kid of a Christmas present, or a fan of something they’ve been looking forward to for years. Worse, you could take advantage of a parent who will pay the outrageous price simply because of social pressure. It’s a cynical, selfish move and deserving of criticism.