LeeroyJ. wrote: » Society, the same society that deems calling other cultures derogatory terms, dictates what is acceptable to do in public and what is rather unacceptable in public. You are welcome to do it but shouldn't be surprised if there is a societal backlash. It's part of a societal contract, nobody makes the rules but it evolves over time and adjust to what society deems acceptable.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » ok I know people on boards don't believe in climate change, but we are mismanaging the Earth pretty much as bad as we possibly could right now, and exploding populations in poor countries along with dwindling resources will still rise to massive numbers migrating.
Bambi wrote: » Ah the Guardian, if it isnt Trump then its climate change, I assume it was climate change that caused the dusbowl of the 30s and the Ethiopian famine of the 80s rather than just human mismangement.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » If your country became uninhabitable you would stay there anyway? It's already happening, parts of Central America are already experiencing drought and famine and walking up to the USA.https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jul/29/guatemala-climate-crisis-migration-drought-famine
Hector Savage wrote: » Becomes rather unacceptable !! says who ? Would you go away ourra da !!!
LeeroyJ. wrote: » Immersing yourself into African culture for a dinner, celebration, travelling there or because you enjoy the look and style is fine Wearing it for Halloween or for some likes on an Instagram post if where it becomes rather unacceptable.
Gervais08 wrote: » How can there be genuine “multiculturalism” when the nutjobs on the left scream “cultural appropriation” every time someone tries on an outfit from a different nation ?? Wouldn’t it be great if we could all experience the best bits of each other’s cultures ??? I’ve a colleague from Ghana who drinks Guinness like it’s going out of style and laughs at my ignorance of GAA as he knows practically everything about it!!! Isn’t that a good thing ?? Yet if I was to immerse myself in Ghanaian dress or hair etc I’d be on a cancel list. I don’t get it!!
TomTomTim wrote: » I struggle to see how this will be a reality? It seems that the media are already prepping the bull regardless, as I've seen mentions of climate refugees many times already. Why would you flee to another continent over climate change anyway? Is it not a global issue? Regardless of the narratives used, I can't see anyone leaving their countries over climate change, but that won't stop the media class and activists alike, from using it as another excuse for mass-immigration.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » If you think it's bad now, wait a bit. Africa is looking at the worst recession since the 1970s because of all this covid jazz. Climate change is going to force millions to have to move and how many of them are going to try and get to Europe? The way we run the world means the planet is f*cked anyway, but it looks like we ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to mass migration of people.
Mules wrote: » That's it exactly, so why are so many in the media and in politics not even questioning it. If it's obvious to us, why aren't they seeing it Are they all optimistic or just not thinking things through?
Deleted User wrote: » Increasing the population doesn't make sense anyway, since we have a services and technology based economy, which requires less workers, than an agrarian or industrial nation. Countries like Germany need a higher population because they've retained elements of all economic industries, but Ireland hasn't. In any case, with automation on the horizon, many previous jobs will become redundant, and so less need for a larger population. Also considering the rising costs of living in Ireland, bringing in people who don't have the skills/education to independently earn well, simply increases the burden on the existing taxpayers... even with an increasing older population, the burden will remain on, for the most part, non-migrants, due to the gap in bringing them up to speed in terms of education and language acquisition. Becoming taxpayers themselves will simply be paying back the long period of cost involved in supporting and educating them, so it's dubious whether there's a "profit" for the nation in having these migrants. Especially, since many will leave Ireland once they receive EU citizenship, and move to other countries such as Germany...
Mules wrote: » My concern is the pressure on public services. The health system and the housing situation can't cope with our current population but then Varadkar says he want the population to grow by 1million in his 2040 plan. The numbers he wants will have to come by immigration because Irish people aren't having enough children to make to make up the 1 million. Why increase the population anyway. I don't want to live in an overcrowded country with public services falling apart.
Strumms wrote: » They can claim they were to be drowned in acid, but that STILL means when we lend a hand, they play by the rules. ALL the rules.
Deleted User wrote: » Sure, we can. Poland did. It's just takes balls, which I seriously doubt our political elite have.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » It's not really fair for Italy and Greece and the Med countries to have to take them all either. Will be interesting to see if this trickles down to us.
Strumms wrote: » I don’t know re : numbers, will we ever say no more ? CAN we as an EU member state ? Say ‘enough for now’ ?
imme wrote: » You can't deport people once you've granted them protection, it is simply too late.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Sounds fair. Where will we put them when they arrive? How many will be taken in before we say no more? Will we ever say no more?
imme wrote: » It doesn't work like that in the Irish experience. We end with people coming to the Ireland of Ireland, island of Ireland, claiming they've been persecuted at home, their lives are in danger. How did you get to Ireland, you couldn't have flown here directly. Starting off on a lie isn't a good way to start a relationship or a new life, is it. You can't deport people once you've granted them protection, it is simply too late.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » It's not really fair for Italy and Greece and the Med countries to have to take them all either.
Will be interesting to see if this trickles down to us.
Strumms wrote: » Immigration is giving people a chance, a second chance. It’s accepting people into our country, into our community. It’s helping them with accommodation / shelter , money, health services, advice. If an asylum seeker is willing while here to abide by the law, respect their fellow asylum seekers, the Irish people, our laws, fantastic. If they can’t, without question they need to be fast track deported. ONE strike and its goodbye. If that’s robbing a packet of Jaffa cakes, or an assault.... next available flight home. The law is needing to be unambiguous, clear, with no recourse for tying the system up in a flood of appeals. We are and have been a soft touch. Let that end now.
Wibbs wrote: » The EU will get strong resistance from countries like Poland and I hope they do. I've always been pro EU, but the same EU can eff off on this bollocks. Then again our political class ever with an eye to a cushy retirement in Brussels will as usual bend over and present their bare arses to their EU bosses. They most certainly wouldn't risk putting something so culturally changing as this to the Irish voters, because, well they know what the answer is likely to be. But that doesn't matter. Democracy my arse. Spineless pricks the lot of them.
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