Silentcorner wrote: » Is there anywhere I can find examples of enthusiasm for the Biden/Harris campaign....anywhere at all? There is a myriad of content available of huge crowds inside and outside venues that Trump is speaking at*...there is a myriad of content showing crowds lining the streets all over the US where Trump is visiting a factory or a town...there is a myriad of content available showing the massive boat parades in support of Trump all over the US in particular in typically Democrat states...I cannot however find any content where Biden arrives at a venue that is buzzing with supporters....I know the algorithms don't help me but I have seen Republicans who are turning away from Trump and the Lincoln Project...is there any support for Harris/Biden out there? *I've seen the half empty stadium in Tulsa back in June...but they also had a MASSIVE online audience.
Cody montana wrote: » Is trump responsible for wildfires, is that what you’re genuinely asking?
ExMachina1000 wrote: » If he wins reelection though. Might see some progress then.
[Deleted User] wrote: » In the last six months, he has done nothing around handling it in a way that doesn't inflame the situation. Plus 200k Americans are dead... So law and order, he does nothing outside of getting friends off. Plus a virus that he's failed to remotely handle...
Silentcorner wrote: » There is a huge difference between Russian meddling and Russian collusion....a HUGE difference...
irelandrover wrote: » So if he wins an election to be president he'll take action. But currently as president he cannot do anything. That makes perfect sense.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Iv yet to see anyone else use the deaths of 200k people as an angle to argue with posters on an Irish discussion forum. Not a great look to be honest
LessOutragePlz wrote: » He's tried his best and that's all he can do really. Sure he could have handled the pandemic better but, it was an unprecedented situation that he was dealing with.
Igotadose wrote: » And, he failed. Jacinta Arden didn't fail. Angela Merkel didn't fail. Trump failed. How many rallies and golf events did he do when he knew the pandemic was coming? That's not doing your best. That's just coasting along knowing you can get away with anything. In the past, daddies money and then his own (mostly borrowed) money got him out of scrapes. Now, it's sycophants, a compliant DOJ and wrathful failures that are his followers that does the same. A life without consequence. Maybe in a few more weeks some will be delivered.
Carfacemandog wrote: » And the post I quoted was referring to simply 'The Russians' and not collusion with them. What is your take on those findings, and why do you feel Trump still feels the need to disagree so strongly with them and instead publicly state he trusts Putin and the Kremlin more?
Deleted User wrote: » I have a family in America, I have elderly relatives over there who are actively frightened of going outside. The reason being the pandemic... So I suspect the handling of the pandemic will factor into high risk voter's decisions in particular. Also yes, other posters have referenced the fact that the pandemic has been handled atrociously. They rank as one of the worst nations on that front.
DangerScouse wrote: » They are actually 10th worst in the developed world. Not bad considering their transport infrastructure and the amount of overweight people who live there.
LessOutragePlz wrote: » Did you not say the riots and looting happend on his watch? What do you mean by his watch? I took it to mean that you were implying that he was responsible for the rioting and looting that occurred but, correct me if I'm wrong.
Silentcorner wrote: » My simple take is that Trump is fighting a war with establishment, both establishment Republicans and Democrats (with the support of virtually the entire media infrastucture) who have been appointed to positions all over the infrastructure of the State....that establishment have been undermining him from day 1, he knows Putin is no serious threat to him...that is a truly simplistic view on an issue that I know I can only be mis informed on, we are talking about the machinations of the biggest state on this planet, none of us have any clue what is actually happening. Back in 2016, I vividly remember being shocked at how many of his close family he appointed to his administration, it was proof to me at the time how rotten he was....but I have since shifted, he knew what he was up against, he made a lot of mistakes that first year which didn't help him....despite his crass nature at times, I did a 180 degree turn on him.
Carfacemandog wrote: » So in summary, you are under the impression that all of the proven interference from Russians, confirmed by multiple different bodies and across both parties, as well as by international agencies, are all just lying in as part of one big conspiracy against Donald Trump. In light of this, what do you think their end goal is vs. Trump's, that would lead them go undertake such a big conspiracy?
breezy1985 wrote: » Also the post condones the replacement of cronyism with nepotism which is baffling
Silentcorner wrote: » That is a fairly loaded take on what I said....but whatever works for you!
breezy1985 wrote: » "Back in 2016, I vividly remember being shocked at how many of his close family he appointed to his administration, it was proof to me at the time how rotten he was....but I have since shifted, he knew what he was up against" Those are your words you have come to believe his nepotism was a good thing
breezy1985 wrote: » I don't think he is responsible for the origins of it but his words during the whole affair have led to a massive ramping up of the violence and armed nature of both sides.
Tell me how wrote: » You are one of the few people in the planet who would have suspicions that the motivation of someone is sinister and who, when presented with evidence that this is indeed the case would actually flip to say it was justified. Quite a bizarre summation. It would like a police officer going to arrest someone for assaulting their wife at home and when they get there decide actually you know what, she deserves it and turns around and leaves.
Silentcorner wrote: » I'm sorry you've lost me at this point.... There has been nothing ordinary about the last 4 years, not the behaviour of the President or the actions of the Democratic Party, it is fair to say, whichever way you lean, it has been unprecedented...throw in a media industry that is beyond partisan and surely we can all admit to holding imperfect views on the state of US politics. If we can't even agree that then why waste anyone's time...
Outlaw Pete wrote: » His words during the whole affair were twisted or not aired depending on if they could be used to sow division. The mainstream media had no intention of letting the public see that President Trump was saying all that needed to be. Had Obama said the exact same things Trump said they would have aired them unedited and then waxed lyrical about how strong his message was. Instead though they immediately decided that Floyd's death was the result of systemic racism and that it was something which was part and parcel of living in Trump's America. That he immediately called for calm and an expedited investigation into Floyd's death and hoped that justice would be done was meaningless. Instead they rolled out their talking heads who all then claimed Trump was a racist who was dog whistling to white supremacists. When he gave his speech from the Rose Garden they spliced the live stream with the sound of protesters clashing with police outside. What he said was irrelevant to them as they just wanted to adhere to their nauseating narrative. They even had the gall to claim Trump had said Floyd would be happy about job numbers:https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1269214861726224384 This is the kind of race baiting crap that is dividing America as there are people that would see and read that stuff and believe it to be true. The truth is there is no appeasing racists like BLM as they have an agenda. Even Obama couldn't quell their hatred and he had their back and so what chance Trump and especially so with the might of the MSM behind them. Trump is not the problem when it comes to race relations in America. Plenty within the black community love Trump and know he is not a racist and is there to help them and do what needs to be done for them, far more in many ways than any other president in recent memory. False narratives crafted by the left are the real problem in America and if they could be curtailed in some way then people would get on a hell of a lot better but as long as you have people that gain from division, you'll have those who will do whatever they can to divide. The ultimate nightmare for those people is for everyone to get along.
Silentcorner wrote: » Like I said, a fairly loaded interpretation of what I said...just because I have shifted my position does not mean I condone anything, I have a different view on his motives for hiring family members. He found himself as President in a very precarious situation with enemies all over the highest echelons of the State and even the Republican Party. But continue taking a black and white position, I'm sure the fanboys will egg you on....
Outlaw Pete wrote: » This is the kind of race baiting crap that is dividing America as there are people that would see and read that stuff and believe it to be true.
Tell me how wrote: » Why don't you give an example of the actions of the Democrats from the last 4 years which has been out of the ordinary. WTF is an imperfect view on the state of US politics? This is a discussion Board, and the topic of this particular thread is elements of US politics, you can log off and not come back if you think taking part in a discussion, on a discussion board, is a waste of time because people don't ultimately agree. This seems like more of the rhetoric Trump comes out with like when he claims 'No American President has been treated more unfairly than me' Yeah? How?
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