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Star Trek: Lower Decks (animated series)

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Star Trek: Lower Decks has been confirmed as an animated comedy series from Rick and Morty head writer, Mike McMahon.

deadline.com wrote:

The expansion of CBS All Access’ Star Trek universe continues with a two-season order to Star Trek: Lower Decks, a half-hour adult animated comedy series from Rick and Morty head writer and executive producer Mike McMahan, a long-time Star Trek fan. Star Trek: Lower Decks, which will focus on the support crew serving on one of Starfleet’s least important ships.

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“Mike won our hearts with his first sentence: ‘I want to do a show about the people who put the yellow cartridge in the food replicator so a banana can come out the other end.’

Interesting! https://deadline.com/2018/10/star-trek-lower-decks-animated-series-rick-and-morty-mike-mcmahan-alex-kurtzman-cbs-all-access-1202489207/

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AMKC

That was an alright episode. I thought the doctor getting lost while stupid was funny. Nice to see another ship design in the background as well. I had to laugh when the Captain asked Marineer to warn to Aliens and then what she done lol. Still might have added a bit to that myself by including maybe the tactical officer not been happy maybe about it. I loved the bit with cleaner lol. The Romulan war Birds were nice to see if a bit silly. A few nice little nods to TNG in it again too.

Slydice

8: That was fun! Each part kept having so many moments that won me over. Even the little things like the off-hand

Romulan

remarks about the

Remans

[Deleted User]

The Senior crew were almost competent here!!

Goodshape

Episode 8, good stuff again.

Episodic. Good-natured. Good fun.

I like it

FutureGuy

They could cancel all other Trek now and I'd be happy just to watch this.

Stark

pixelburp wrote:

It's just the delivery was like being hit with a blow-dryer of dialogue. The above is just me spitballing of course, so who knows how it tracks against later actual episodes.

You're pretty much spot on.

pixelburp

I didn't find Mariner unlikeable, just ludicruously breathless. She spoke like a YouTube star for adolescents. In actual fact, her character seemed quite interesting: there were clear hints towards all that outsized perfomative "no fúcks given" being a thin emotional shield. Given her parents' statsuses I'm guessing she ballsed up a career and is now trying deseprately to "own" her failure like a badge of honour. Thus projecting insecurity onto Boimler, a colleague openly enthusiastic about the very career path she (apparently) sabotaged. She can't let someone else enjoy what she lost.

It's just the delivery was like being hit with a blow-dryer of dialogue. The above is just me spitballing of course, so who knows how it tracks against later actual episodes.

Typing it out though, it's funny how the above reads 10x more interesting as characterisation than we get in Discovery - but that's one of the key advantages of Comedy IMO. The genre often gleefully mines from a point of insecurity; laughs got from peoples' foibles or hang-ups while at the same time affording genuine growth when the laughs are paused. It's not without reason the best sitcoms and comedies are the ones that also had the best or more insightful character developments. To me, comedy is the ultimate fiction because it can reveal a lot through ostensibly superficial laughs at characters' expense. Laughing in the face of adversity.

Dramatic fiction doesn't have that crutch to fall on, and can only go at one relative speed. Serioues faces only please. So it's way too easy to slip into melodrama 'cos the tonal range afforded to the writers is much smaller. And when the writers aren't particularly fantastic either, Discovery yields these Big Emotional Moments that have no context, or the catharctic release of a well-timed fart

JayRoc

pixelburp wrote: »

With the generally positive feedback on this finally had a go with the first episode.

Knowing Mariner calms down later helped swallow the hyperactivity cos ye gods it was a bit much at times. Take a breath goddamnit. The tonal whiplash could be a bit much too as the sugar-rush comedy jarred with the very clear TNG era styling.

But the rest of the episode was enjoyable, can't deny. The gags weren't particularly gut busting but got a few smiles from me. Which for a comedy pilot is good going in my experience.

So yeah, I'll keep going.

It can be tough getting over the fact that the main protagonist is so unlikeable.

This is certainly unprecedented in any recent Star Trek series. Ahem.

(Edit: but joking aside, I'm definitely inclined to give this show a fair shake. Hit and miss so far but the hits are great fun)

pixelburp

With the generally positive feedback on this finally had a go with the first episode.

Knowing Mariner calms down later helped swallow the hyperactivity cos ye gods it was a bit much at times. Take a breath goddamnit. The tonal whiplash could be a bit much too as the sugar-rush comedy jarred with the very clear TNG era styling.

But the rest of the episode was enjoyable, can't deny. The gags weren't particularly gut busting but got a few smiles from me. Which for a comedy pilot is good going in my experience.

So yeah, I'll keep going.

Rawr

Deleted User wrote: »

There has been more character development in a handful of short episodes than entire seasons of Discovery.
That's depressing

They actually pulled off a decent bit of character development on Mariner. Now it makes a lot of sense that she knew more than the other lower decks officers.

It's clear that she used to be a lot more Starfleet than now, as suggested by that DS9 flashback. I am interested to see what drove her away from higher rank.

Loved the TAS reference there too

AMKC

I was dissapointed with this episode. I think it was because episode 6 was so good. If this had come before 6 ok. It was good just not as good as the episodes before it. I do not think well trained Starfleet officers would be so incompetent that them things would happen either. Yes on strange new Worlds with new aliens things could go wrong and officers might get hurt or injured but not like they were suggesting. Still I thought that part with the other ship was good and why it was like that etc.

Samuel T. Cogley

Did get a lol out of the latest episode. The Pike chairs with the Bikini and the shirts!

TheValeyard

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There has been more character development in a handful of short episodes than entire seasons of Discovery.
That's depressing

Was just thinking about that and you're right. I know more about the Lower Decks crew than the entire Discovery Bridge crew.

[Deleted User]

There has been more character development in a handful of short episodes than entire seasons of Discovery.
That's depressing

Slydice

7: I liked that. Was glad the

farm turned out to exist

. Really liked the nod to Chain of Command

Goodshape

That was fun

FutureGuy

Absolutely love this show. The writers "get" Star Trek which can't be said for much of what we have seen for the last 15 years or so.

Yes, sometimes the humour could be dialled down at times but the A and B plots (which are reversed compared to TNG) are quintessential Trek.

Fantastic references to other shows too.

I havent bought a series on bluray ever but I will get this to show support.

Stark

That was brilliant

Liked that episode a lot.

TheValeyard

Latest episode,

that reference to Voyager Threshold, absolutely brilliant!!! LMAO

Looks like Starfleet tried it again, and closes that plot hole!

TheValeyard

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Nope.. no international distributor at present, but it's readily available in the "usual places"

Yarr!

I thought I saw October 16th or something for Netflix/prime. I'll do some checking...

Edit: cannot find it, could be mixing it up with Discovery 3.

eldamo

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Nope.. no international distributor at present, but it's readily available in the "usual places"

Yarr!

Cool was just confirming!

i will probably be too lazy and wait for it to turn up on e4 or something.

_Kaiser_

eldamo wrote: »

Sorry, is this streaming anywhere over here? I am sure it is mentioned earlier on the thread, but I have gone back a few pages and I am just going to spoil things for myself if I keep doing that.

I love pretty much all trek. Enjoy Rick and Morty, I just can't get my head around where they intersect...

Nope.. no international distributor at present, but it's readily available in the "usual places"

Yarr!

eldamo

Sorry, is this streaming anywhere over here? I am sure it is mentioned earlier on the thread, but I have gone back a few pages and I am just going to spoil things for myself if I keep doing that.

I love pretty much all trek. Enjoy Rick and Morty, I just can't get my head around where they intersect...

_Kaiser_

Yea 6 was another good episode (two in row) and the key change is the "calming down" of Mariner and the "zaniness" generally I think. The show is all the better for it. Badgey was great

CastorTroy

Liked how they listed so many uses of the holodeck

Rawr

Spear wrote: »

Six was a bit darker than expected. But I firmly believe Badgey is the greatest character in all of Trekdom, and warrants a spin off series.

Just watched 6, and yes...I think you could launch a whole series of horror movies based on Badgey alone....and I would watch them...

AMKC

Really enjoyed that episode. Proper laughs in it. Definitly the best episode yet. Loved the way they named another ship too. Could say but do not want to spoil it on anyone. Fletcher was a bit bat crazy do. The security chief guy is gas. Loved the way this episode ended and that other ship that is Canon getting mentioned.

TheValeyard

Slydice wrote: »

6: Badgy! :eek:

Should be ships Captain

Slydice

6: Badgy! :eek:

Goodshape

Really enjoyed 6. Just nice to have some episodic and 24th century Trek

. Getting decent chuckles out of this too.