Nvidia RTX Discussion

I think the 8gb 3070 is being unfairly comapared to the 2080ti - mainly due to the Nvidia press release - but it really shold be compared to the 2070/Super and I think we'll see the same performance increase despite the Vram size

dreamers75

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-review?page=7

DFs review

frozenfrozen

do the reviews have anything about the storage decompression thing on the cards?

Can't imagine 10GB of VRAM is an issue if you can swap at 6GB/s from disk

Hyzepher wrote: »

I think it will be interesting to see how the 3070 8Gb performs before we use the old 8Gb models to make assumptions

I haven't see much about any advance in compression technology this generation.

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

I am aware of the allocation v actual use situation but Hardware Unboxed showed the performance hit the 8GB cards were taking in it's benchmarks.

I think it will be interesting to see how the 3070 8Gb performs before we use the old 8Gb models to make assumptions

Homelander wrote: »

While I think the 8GB on the RTX3070 is a bit of a joke, I am not hugely pushed. I'm OK with texture being set at high rather than ultra, or medium down the line if really needs be, when everything else can be maxed out at massive FPS.

I mean most games, comparing medium v ultra textures, not a huge difference visually for a massive vram hit.

Stop countering my justifications for not upgrading my 5700XT! :pac:

Homelander

While I think the 8GB on the RTX3070 is a bit of a joke, I am not hugely pushed. I'm OK with texture being set at high rather than ultra, or medium down the line if really needs be, when everything else can be maxed out at massive FPS.

I mean most games, comparing medium v ultra textures, not a huge difference visually for a massive vram hit.

Mr Crispy

VideoCardz have links to written and video reviews, with new ones added as they go up.

Fitz II

Well general consensus is that this is a winner of a card, I wonder will it undo the damage done during the 20 series launch? I am very excited to see where the 3090 lands on the benchmarks, obviously a law of diminishing returns, but buy got this is a monster of a card. Interested to see how well this plays with Ryzen versus Intel and the overclocking potential.

A good day to be a PC gaming enthusiast.

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

GN contradicts both your views.

"When a card is showing as 10Gb VRAM use, it's not actually using 10Gb - it is asking the OS to allocate it that many resources." (paraphrasing)

I am aware of the allocation v actual use situation but Hardware Unboxed showed the performance hit the 8GB cards were taking in it's benchmarks.

K.O.Kiki

MidlanderMan wrote: »

8gb on the 3070 is grand for now but some games are already at or very close to saturation for that mich vRAM, which won't get any less true in the next few years.

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The Hardware Unboxed review explains it pretty well. Basically the 3080 card comes into it's own at 4K. Doom Eternal already has an issue with 8GB, although 10GB is fine now, I don't think it's enough for next gen gaming.

The 3070 is going to be the 1440P card and I just have the same concern over 8GB and next gen games.

Maybe nVidia have it just so, and it'll be grand but I reckon we're going to see 12 and 16GB cards from AMD closely followed by 16GB Ti versions of the 3070 and 3080 at quite high prices.

GN contradicts both your views.

"When a card is showing as 10Gb VRAM use, it's not actually using 10Gb - it is asking the OS to allocate it that many resources." (paraphrasing)

Hyzepher wrote: »

I can literally hear the bottom fall out of the 2nd hand GPU market

Anyone want to take a modded 2070 Super?
I will accept 2 boxes of Tayto :pac:

/s

Also the more I watched that the more I kept looking at the 5700XT results over 60FPS which is as fast as my current monitor goes anway :pac:

Although that said I just fired it up on Adverts looking to do an upgrade.

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Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The Hardware Unboxed review explains it pretty well. Basically the 3080 card comes into it's own at 4K. Doom Eternal already has an issue with 8GB, although 10GB is fine now, I don't think it's enough for next gen gaming.

The 3070 is going to be the 1440P card and I just have the same concern over 8GB and next gen games.

Maybe nVidia have it just so, and it'll be grand but I reckon we're going to see 12 and 16GB cards from AMD closely followed by 16GB Ti versions of the 3070 and 3080 at quite high prices.

I'd agree with this. The fact that I bought a Radeon Vii over a year ago with the 16GB vram being a big part of that decision I think given the 4k performance jump on the 3080 the vram seems a little short and would suggest a more expensive ti/super relaunch later on.

The 1440p results are surprising and it seems that the architecture may not be so great at resolutions lower than 4k.

Hyzepher wrote: »

Why?

The Hardware Unboxed review explains it pretty well. Basically the 3080 card comes into it's own at 4K. Doom Eternal already has an issue with 8GB, although 10GB is fine now, I don't think it's enough for next gen gaming.

The 3070 is going to be the 1440P card and I just have the same concern over 8GB and next gen games.

Maybe nVidia have it just so, and it'll be grand but I reckon we're going to see 12 and 16GB cards from AMD closely followed by 16GB Ti versions of the 3070 and 3080 at quite high prices.

Hyzepher wrote: »

Why?

8gb on the 3070 is grand for now but some games are already at or very close to saturation for that mich vRAM, which won't get any less true in the next few years.

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Also reckon the VRAM is a bit low on both cards.

Why?

Still concerned for the 3070 performance - I can't see it beating the 2080ti.

Also reckon the VRAM is a bit low on both cards.

Hyzepher wrote: »

I can literally hear the bottom fall out of the 2nd hand GPU market

My 1070 is now worth about €4.37.

I can literally hear the bottom fall out of the 2nd hand GPU market

So, they look very good.

Where's Hardware Unboxed's review

K.O.Kiki

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I'd love a summary version of the GamersNexus breakdowns. Don't get me wrong they go into great detail and cover all of the bases, it's just hard to listen to Steve for longer than 5 minutes.

They publish most of their reviews in written form 1-2 days after the video.
Due to the way monetization works, they rely on youtube views for revenue. Steve has publicly stated, many times, that the site loses money.

L wrote: »

Review Embargo lift is still set for 2pm today isn't it?

While we wait, Gamers Nexus has a pretty nice walkthrough of some of the architecture and process changes for Ampere here.

Jesus that was pretty intense.

Squidgy Black

I'd love a summary version of the GamersNexus breakdowns. Don't get me wrong they go into great detail and cover all of the bases, it's just hard to listen to Steve for longer than 5 minutes.