christy c wrote: » You may not have understood me but I definitely don't know what you're babbling about now. Good luck.
christy c wrote: I'm talking in general, how they highlight the SF BS. Any ideas?
hatrickpatrick wrote: » I'm literally just somebody who's watched the pain and misery FG's housing policy has wrought over the last half decade and had friends literally crying on my shoulder as they have to move backwards in life when their rent spiralled so far out of control that despite hard working, well paying careers, they had to move back in with their families as they approached their thirties. And who's watched how the government of the day collectively told those people to go f*ck themselves and get used to sh!ttier and sh!ttier qualities of life because obviously the most important thing about housing as a sector is for speculators to make vast amounts money without doing anything to actually earn it. That's literally it. FG like the status quo, and not only they, but those who benefit from that status quo are f*cking terrified of SF. As a friend of mine tweeted after the election, the fact that all of the banks and institutional landlords took a stock market tumble as soon as the prospect of SF in government became a plausible reality is all you need to show that the current status quo is stacked in favour of them - and, by definition, against ordinary people. Because when one sector earns its money by exploiting the sh!t out of another sector, what's good news for the latter is bad news for the former. It's that simple. I'm a person who has empathy for my fellow citizens. I've seen too many friends have their independent lives snatched away from them by the greedy c*nts who hoard property as if life is a game of monopoly to ever vote for anyone who isn't openly in favour of tackling those people head on and preventing them from continuing this exploitation.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » What's great about SF is you can see how incompetent they are in Northern Ireland. All populist, bullshít, and tiresome nationalism. A joke of a party if they didn't have serial killers pulling the strings and sitting in the Dáil.
New Era wrote: » I still believe that the next general election and if you read the Irish examiner this morning, we might be heading to the polls much sooner than you think, is SF's big chance of getting MLM as taoiseach and with a huge mandate too. They might not get an better opportunity to achieve this ambition. Interesting times await for sure.
Hamsterchops wrote: » Wow, and what a shocking thought that is Total mayhem with the Shinners at the helm, I mean total meltdown and maybe even trouble up North, when they try too hard to pull NI out of the UK (before it's time to do so), not that ever will be, but at least FG & FF know how to avoid trouble up North while SF will be stirring it up big time! Witnessing all the Shinners & IRA people at that big Covid friendly IRA funeral a few weeks ago should be enough to stop most normal people from actually voting for them as our Government The very thought is madness. Mary Lou as Taoiseach, yeah right
maccored wrote: » the anti shinners are spinning themselves in circles and try to bait responses. this thread is hilarious.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Not trying to bait, dude. Laying out the facts. SF don't recognise the legitimacy of the Irish Republic. The goal of SF isn't to get back the 6 counties, attach them to the Republic, and have a huge big street party. It's aim is to dissolve both, and create a new 32 county socialist republic. They don't recognise the legitimacy of Óglaigh na hÉireann or Bunreacht na hÉireann. That's why their current health spokesperson was drunkly roaring about 'breaking those Free State bastards'. SF believe the PIRA were the legitimate provisional defence forces of Ireland. Bobby Storey was a senior member of staff of what they believe is the legitimate army of Ireland, and was therefore due their equivalent of a State funeral. It's also why the celebrated the release of the murderers of Jerry McCabe - it was a military operation against a legitimate target. Now they don't go on about this sort of stuff as much, and they don't publish their constitution on their website. The goals haven't changed though.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The 1970's wants it's political theories back.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I often wonder how people like Truth and Johnny coped after the major wars or our own conflicts/wars, how they allowed men and women who had done unspeakable things adjust back into normal society. How do you begin to trust someone who has bombed a town or village or a hospital or shot somebody? I personally think the only way is via a truth recovery commission. The Irish state locked away the testimonies until everyone was dead...maybe that is a way to do it also? But did that just prolong the civil war in politics here? What do you think Truth and Johnny, how do we progress to a normalised society, could you spell out what it is you want to happen?
JohnnyFlash wrote: » What theories, Francie? It's the stated aims of SF. It's in their constitution. They don't believe the Republic of Ireland has yet been established: a. End British rule in Ireland. b. Achieve territorial unification, political independence and sovereignty. c. Establish a Democratic Socialist Republic. d. Bring the Proclamation of the Republic of Easter 1916 into effective operation and to establish the Republic, representative of the people of all Ireland, based on that Proclamation. e. Seek a mandate to establish in the Republic a system of social justice based on Irish republican and socialist principles in accordance with the Proclamation of the Republic of 1916 and the Democratic Programme of the First Dáil Éireann in 1919 and by a just distribution and effective control of the nation’s wealth and resources, and to institute a system of government suited to the particular needs of the people.
Truthvader wrote: » More slithery equivocation from the Sinn Fen fan club. Again trying to locate their criminal campaign as some kind of "war". Either way the answer to people who did unspeakable things (Gerry Adams, Martin Ferris, Dessie Ellis and Co) is the Nuremburg trial followed by a quick hanging.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So to normalise society you are going to have a few selective hangings. Excellent.
Truthvader wrote: » Yep I am selecting the most vile and guilty
christy c wrote: » I'm talking all the BS that SF have come out with over the years which if implemented would make things worse IMO, Apple tax one of the more recent ones for example.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » I absolutely don't believe that, but I do believe that part of the surge is born out of the same phenomenon - the people who have caused us so much unimaginable pain tell us "don't vote for these people", so obviously many people will automatically do the opposite.
Yeah_Right wrote: » You say that rent has spiraled out of control and that there is a housing crisis. People have had to move home with their parents because they can't afford rent/mortgages. However these houses/apartments are being rented out or bought so obviously some people can afford them. Surely that means they aren't out of control. They are at the market rates. Can you tell me how SF are going to change this? Is the actual problem for your friends that they can't afford to live where they want and thats why they have moved home? My wife and I would love a 4 or 5 bed detached house with a big garden on Palmerston Road or maybe in Malahide or Killiney with a seaview. But we can't afford that right now so we bought a 3 bed semi-detached in a Dublin commuter suburb. Simple. Maybe one day we will buy the dream house and rent out where we are now. At the market rates. Though unless there are some changes to the law, we would probably only do short term lets.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Your right there's no housing crisis. Covid 19 prob a hoax too?
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Your right there's no housing crisis.
Yeah_Right wrote: » I don't think there is a housing crisis. I think that there is a multi-million euro industry that has sprung up around this supposed crisis and that needs to be kept going. I also think that this has led to a lot of people jumping on the bandwagon and calling for government intervention so that they can get the house they want rather than the house they can afford.The result is parties like SF that spout populist BS have grabbed this "issue" and told people what they want to hear.
Our ambition is to ensure:there is a strong construction sector focused on the building of homes in all price ranges, not on land speculation; that we are building in excess of 25,000 new houses per annum in 2020, rising to 35,000 in the years thereafter, and those houses are in locations with access to employment, public transport, and other essential amenities; 12,000 new homes are added to the social housing stock each year by 2021 and that level is maintained thereafter; that the homelessness crisis is ended and the time people spend in emergency accommodation is as short as possible; and that we have tenant protections, both in legislation and in practice, that allow renters to enjoy secure, high-quality and long-term accommodation and provide landlords with a fair return on their investment.
