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Who thinks Trump will win?

whiskeyman

Hope the mods don't mind a new thread, but I just want to see how many of us think Trump will beat Biden in Nov?
I think he just has so much of a populist ground swell and I wouldn't be surprised if 'external' participants get involved in the process.

Do you think he'll get reelected?
Where will that leave America?

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Mic 1972

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

How many Americans on death Row has he tried to save?

How many did Kamala Harris incarcerated that were innocent?

Biker79

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

A man of peace. A strong president who is able to use his business skills to bring sides to the table as well as creating the strongest American economy in recent memory.

100% correct. People severely underestimated the unique skillset he brought to the role.

But as the 4 years progressed and he notched up win after win, it became apparent ( to those of us not consumed with bitter hostility or taken ill with Trump Derangement Syndrome ) , that he was a force to contend with.

Poor auld Sleepy Joe. Sitting at a desk for 40 years and picking up a government cheque, with the occasional flurry of warmongering in North Africa. All he's good for now is watering his pansies.

Cody montana

Silentcorner wrote: »

Do we blame the Chinese then for all the deaths across the world...is that how this works?

I blame trump for lying and downplaying it.

Timberrrrrrrr

Mic 1972 wrote: »

How many did Kamala Harris incarcerated that were innocent?

Did she incarcerate innocent people or did she do her job and follow the letter of the law as expected?

Because there is a huge difference.

ollkiller

Silentcorner wrote: »

Do we blame the Chinese then for all the deaths across the world...is that how this works

You can't blame him for all the deaths. But if he had told the American people the truth from the start and acted like our leaders acted then countless lives would have been saved.

ollkiller

Biker79 wrote: »

100% correct. People severely underestimated the unique skillset he brought to the role.

But as the 4 years progressed and he notched up win after win, it became apparent ( to those of us not consumed with bitter hostility or taken ill with Trump Derangement Syndrome ) , that he was a force to contend with.

Poor auld Sleepy Joe. Sitting at a desk for 40 years and picking up a government cheque, with the occasional flurry of warmongering in North Africa. All he's good for now is watering his pansies.

Wasn't Joe vice president when Obamacare came in. Which gave way more people health coverage. And in office when Obama inherited an unprecedented recession but got the economy back roaring and Trump takes over and says it was all his doing. Those years ya?

Edit: I'm dying to hear those wins after wins. Lets go.

LessOutragePlz

Mic 1972 wrote: »

How many did Kamala Harris incarcerated that were innocent?

Not only did she do that but, her office fought a compensation claim that was brought by a wrongfully convicted person.

"Both the state compensation board and attorneys working for Harris vigorously challenged Diaz’s right to any money, arguing that he hadn’t obtained a formal judgment of acquittal -- and that the court that reversed his conviction lacked proper jurisdiction."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-14/kamala-harris-offices-fought-payments-to-wrongly-convicted

She also showed up at this wrongly convicted man's trial twice. When he was being convicted and when he was being sentenced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgjm6xPJeaA

LessOutragePlz

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Did she incarcerate innocent people or did she do her job and follow the letter of the law as expected?

Because there is a huge difference.

Yeah she sure does like following the letter of the law :rolleyes:

"A state appeals court judge criticized Harris’ office for falsely claiming that the only eyewitness against Jamal Trulove in his murder case feared for her life, making Trulove seem more sinister than he was. The judge said the story was “a yarn” and “made out of whole cloth.” Trulove was convicted, but later exonerated after six years in prison."

Keeping an innocent man in prison for another year despite there being evidence to exonerate him sure is following the letter of the law :rolleyes:

"Harris’ district attorney’s office repeatedly delayed responding to the innocence claims of Maurice Caldwell by filing for extensions as Harris ran for attorney general in 2010, keeping Caldwell in prison for more than a year despite evidence that someone else had committed the murder for which he was convicted, according to court records. A judge admonished Harris’ office for the delays and said they might warrant sanctions."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-14/kamala-harris-offices-fought-payments-to-wrongly-convicted

Biker79

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Covid messed the global economy, every country is affected.
You can't blame Covid on Trump and you know it

Its swinging below the belt but lefties don't bat an eyelid with that carry on.

Anything, ANYTHING , to knock Trump of his well earned pedestal...

ollkiller

Biker79 wrote: »

Its swinging below the belt but lefties don't bat an eyelid with that carry on.

Anything, ANYTHING , to knock Trump of his well earned pedestal...

Nobody is blaming Trump for Covid. That would be ridiculous. They're blaming him for the totally inept response to the pandemic. First off if you know the disease is airborne do you not think the public should know that. From their President.

[Deleted User]

ollkiller wrote: »

Nobody is blaming Trump for Covid. That would be ridiculous. They're blaming him for the totally inept response to the pandemic. First off if you know the disease is airborne do you not think the public should know that. From their President.

Had Trump come out and said it was very bad you'd have had people licking each other in the streets..

LessOutragePlz

Deleted User wrote: »

Had Trump come out and said it was very bad you'd have had people licking each other in the streets..

This is 100% true just look how some people were reacting when they didn't know how deadly it was to certain people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkBseVTUow

Timberrrrrrrr

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Yeah she sure does like following the letter of the law :rolleyes:

"A state appeals court judge criticized Harris’ office for falsely claiming that the only eyewitness against Jamal Trulove in his murder case feared for her life, making Trulove seem more sinister than he was. The judge said the story was “a yarn” and “made out of whole cloth.” Trulove was convicted, but later exonerated after six years in prison."

Keeping an innocent man in prison for another year despite there being evidence to exonerate him sure is following the letter of the law :rolleyes:

"Harris’ district attorney’s office repeatedly delayed responding to the innocence claims of Maurice Caldwell by filing for extensions as Harris ran for attorney general in 2010, keeping Caldwell in prison for more than a year despite evidence that someone else had committed the murder for which he was convicted, according to court records. A judge admonished Harris’ office for the delays and said they might warrant sanctions."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-14/kamala-harris-offices-fought-payments-to-wrongly-convicted

Do not Harris personally. Thanks for the clarification.

Man with broke phone

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Do not Harris personally. Thanks for the clarification.

How many peace prizes was Harris nominated for

LessOutragePlz

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Do not Harris personally. Thanks for the clarification.

Oh so when Trump is in charge of the country and there are deaths due to the virus it's all his fault but, when Harris's office that she is in charge of delays a man's appeal and fights his compensation claim then it's nothing to do with her.

The irony is hilarious even more so when you and other posters claim that we have doubled standards with regards to Trump when you've clearly displayed yours in this post.

DangerScouse

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Oh so when Trump is in charge of the country and there are deaths due to the virus it's all his fault but, when Harris's office that she is in charge of delays a man's appeal and fights his compensation claim then it's nothing to do with her.

The irony is hilarious even more so when you and other posters claim we have doubled standards with regards to Trump when you've clearly displayed yours in this post.

That poster seems obsessed with Trump. Would worry for their mental health when he get's re-elected

Man with broke phone

It really shows how much things have changed regards Trump. In most forums around the world cards would be issued for any pro Trump posts. The mods would find a way to rid you.

Any anti Trump posts would get a pile of thanks.

Anti Trump people would stay up all night researching how the justice department in Iowa did something bad and how to blame it on Trump.

Now you have 3 anti Trump people saying childish things like I know you are but what am I. The mask has come crumbling off the democrats face and their support is gone.

LessOutragePlz

Man with broke phone wrote: »

It really shows how much things have changed regards Trump. In most forums around the world cards would be issued for any pro Trump posts. The mods would find a way to rid you.

Any anti Trump posts would get a pile of thanks.

Anti Trump people would stay up all night researching how the justice department in Iowa did something bad and how to blame it on Trump.

Now you have 3 anti Trump people saying childish things like I know you are but what am I. The mask has come crumbling off the democrats face and their support is gone.

It all comes down them not believing that there is such a thing as a sane and rational Trump voter or supporter.

Everyone singe one of them all of 62,984,828 that voted for him in the last election are (insert derogatory term here) .

Justin Credible Darts

dont forget this gem spouted by them how "Trump is letting the people down"

surely if that was true biden would be miles clear in the polls

LessOutragePlz

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

dont forget this gem spouted by them how "Trump is letting the people down"

surely if that was true biden would be miles clear in the polls

Ah but sure it's all down to them being Republican voters and nothing to doing with Biden being a terrible candidate :rolleyes: .

Justin Credible Darts

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

It all comes down them not believing that there is such a thing as a sane and rational Trump voter or supporter.

Everyone singe one of them all of 62,984,828 that voted for him in the last election are (insert derogatory term here) .

if they vote for biden, then suddenly those same people that were vilified for supporting a "liar" a "racist", etc etc would suddenly be smart intelligent people who voted for the right person.

Basically its a case that they think people are stupid unless they vote for who they say....this is the mindset of the anti trump agenda

Biker79

Exactly right. I got a good whack off the cancel stick last time there was a Trump thread.

I was trying hard not to insult some of the more lefty left posters ...alas, it was too hard not to in the end. Trump fans are only human as well ( although generally with a higher IQ )

Took a few on the chin. Got a few swings in.

Common sense appears to be prevailing now though....green shoots and all that.

2021 will be a good year I think.

LessOutragePlz

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

if they vote for biden, then suddenly those same people that were vilified for supporting a "liar" a "racist", etc etc would suddenly be smart intelligent people who voted for the right person.

Basically its a case that they think people are stupid unless they vote for who they say....this is the mindset of the anti trump agenda

As long as they vote for the Democrat they'll be welcomed in with open arms no questions asked.

Justin Credible Darts

Imagine if Trump had more of the popular vote and the college electorate went with biden and Biden got in......would all those whiny pathetic trump haters who cried how trump got in cry Biden "cheated". ?

LessOutragePlz

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Imagine if Trump had more of the popular vote and the college electorate went with biden and Biden got in......would all those whiny pathetic trump haters who cried how trump got in cry Biden "cheated". ?

What they don't tell you is that Trump losing the popular vote was mostly down to the popular vote in California with Hillary getting 4,269,978 more votes in California than Trump in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_California

Biker79

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

What they don't tell you is that Trump losing the popular vote was mostly down to the popular vote in California with Hillary getting 4,269,978 votes in California than Trump in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_California

Well well....so that was the Democrat policy of bringing in as many immigrants from South America as possible, in return for votes, coming to fruition.

Going forward though, they may need to redesign their policy. South Americans tend to be family orientated and conservative. They wont want to align themselves with any of that recent woke\ Antifa\ blm carry on.

Republicans have an opportunity here to turn demographic shifts to their advantage I would say. Maybe they will in November.

LessOutragePlz

Biker79 wrote: »

Well well....so that was the Democrat policy of bringing in as many immigrants from South America as possible, in return for votes, coming to fruition.

Going forward though, they may need to redesign their policy. South Americans tend to be family orientated and conservative. They wont want to align themselves with any of that recent woke\ Antifa\ blm carry on.

Republicans have an opportunity here to turn demographic shifts to their advantage I would say. Maybe they will in November.

Yeah there's a reason their against bringing in voter ID laws, it's nothing to do with voter suppression and it's no surprise that California is one of the states where no ID is required to vote at the ballot box.

[Deleted User]

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Yeah there's a reason their against bringing in voter ID laws, it's nothing to do with voter suppression and it's no surprise that California is one of the states where no ID is required to vote at the ballot box.

Trump established an investigation into voter fraud, strangely it has not produced any evidence of voter fraud.

ninebeanrows

Trump will likely grind this one out. 4 more years ðŸ˜

LessOutragePlz

Deleted User wrote: »

Trump established an investigation into voter fraud, strangely it has not produced any evidence of voter fraud.

Not as if it's happened before or anything :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE0fZftT6aQ

I'm well aware the candidate was a Republican but election fraud is election fraud no matter who does it.