Wanderer78 wrote: » once again, you re not allowing the debate to expand, neoclassical is done, theres now sufficient evidence to support this, this is a critical element of why we re having such complex issues, particularly in relation to housing, and its elements such as the availability of credit, thats not allowed to be discussed here, thats playing critical roles in these issues
The_Conductor wrote: » They were interviewed on Morning Ireland before 8 this morning- and were cagey as hell- and refused to speculate on possible price falls- insisting that they were insulated from any price falls as most of their properties they're developing (on 44 sites apparently) are between the 330k and 380k price brackets. The caginess in the interview- spoke louder than what they actually said.
Cyrus wrote: » handsome house........
Augeo wrote: » Bedsits provided a roof for loads of folk who are now without one ......... it's not ideal but Co-living / bedsits for the 21st century isn't too bad a concept IMO.
Augeo wrote: » No BER details, presumably an extra shovel of coal would be required frequently
PropQueries wrote: » FYI for others. This is the link to the RTE interview with Cairn Homes this morning on Morning Ireland. It’s included in the 7:50 am Business News slot on their website. Link to Morning Ireland: https://www.rte.ie/radio1/morning-ireland/
MacronvFrugals wrote: » Interesting piece from Mick Clifford in the Examiner a couple days ago - Michael Clifford: Co-living is bedsits for the 21st centuryhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40043303.html
bubblypop wrote: » I don't get the hate for bedsits, plenty of people don't want to houseshare, what other options are there for low paid workers?
PropQueries wrote: » It appears that Cairn Homes strategy is to sell three-bed semis in Dublin for less than the cost that most other developers can build them at.
cnocbui wrote: » I saw a very recent global warming scare mongering article about people having problems with high insulation efficiency houses in London being too hot in summer. Perhaps a low BER will become a feature. /s
Augeo wrote: » I know several folk with very well insulated properties who find them too stuffy in the summer. Whatever about new builds I'm not at all convinced there's significant environmental benefit for retrofitting old properties to very high BER ratings. All of that insulation isn't made in carbon neutral factories and shipping/hauling it about isn't environmentally friendly either.
TheSheriff wrote: » Are you making things up again ?
MacronvFrugals wrote: » Today its for the young professionals with fast lives, tomorrow OAPs thats my worry
Cyrus wrote: » forever homes for all, seems to be the message that gets the most 'likes'
Augeo wrote: » Tomorrow's OAPs on HAP presumably. Indeed, there will be an infinite list for forever homes in Ireland. If the list was cleared next week it would be double what it was originally a week later.
Hubertj wrote: » how are you calculating that?
Graham wrote: » Mod Note Wanderer78, take it to the economics forum.
Cantstandsya wrote: » Sorry I don't want to cross the mods but how is what Wanderer was talking about not relevant to a discussion on house prices? I happen to agree with them that credit is more important than supply and demand and I certainly value seeing an exploration of that fact as part of a discussion on house prices.
Cantstandsya wrote: » Sorry I don't want to cross the mods but how is what Wanderer was talking about not relevant to a discussion on house prices?
Browney7 wrote: » They're presumably alluded to the fact that Cairn's prices for new builds are less than the costs touted in industry lobbying papers
Wanderer78 wrote: » neoclassical is largely nonsense, it has little or no connect to the way the world actually works, theres an enormous amount of research going into this now, particularly since the crash
Graham wrote: » Please send him to the economics forum unless he's buying a house
PropQueries wrote: » As per the interview with RTE this morning, the CEO of Cairn Homes said that going forward, they will concentrate on selling homes in the €300k - €380k price range. He then went on to say that most other developers can only build for that price given that most other developers have higher site costs, finance costs etc. (see link to SCSI cost of building report below). He followed that up by stating that Cairn Homes purchased their sites at an average of €32k each. He also stated that he can sell his homes for a similar price to what the state can build them at. Seems to be their strategy going forward. Glenveagh have a similar strategy, so will be interesting to watch. For anyone interested, the RTE interview with Cairn Homes is on Morning Ireland. It’s included in the 7:50 am Business News slot on their website. Link to Morning Ireland: https://www.rte.ie/radio1/morning-ireland/ For anyone interested in the SCSI report "The Real Cost of New Housing Delivery" published in July 2020, they put the cost of building a 114 sq.m. home at €371,311, split between €178,902 hard costs and €192,409 soft costs. Link to SCSI report here: https://www.scsi.ie/documents/get_lob?id=1551&field=file
Pelezico wrote: » I hate neo. It is always a sign of trouble. My heart sank when I read the post, just before your intervention on the matter. Look lads.....no more neo.
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