schmittel wrote: » Exactly. The posters on here hoping that prices will only increase in the future should be careful what they wish for. Making homeowners feel richer is likely to lead us to a government of SF, PBP and other assorted loons.
Hubertj wrote: » I think PBP would have been in serious trouble in the election if SF ran more candidates. Also, I don’t think SF would go into coalition with those type of people. Government needs to lay out a 3,6, 10 year plan for housing with capex ring fenced to demonstrate they have gotten the message.
wassie wrote: » You can build all the social housing you want, but until the Govt decides to radically shake up favourable tax treatment of property, which as I see it is an unproductive asset and drag on the economy, I don't see any impetus for change.
awec wrote: » The house itself is fairly meh. But it's nearly half an acre in Dublin, albeit the very edge of Dublin. You could build a large extension and end up with a large house and a large garden (by city standards). The Cherrywood development will likely bring small businesses into the immediate local area. The size of the site is the only reason for the price of it.
schmittel wrote: » We know we're in trouble when a reasonable statement is "I don't think SF would go into coalition with those type of people"
Pelezico wrote: » But the rag which is the Irish Times has been one of the biggest shills for rising property prices.
Assetbacked wrote: » 47% of 25-29 year olds living with parents in 2017! Jesus, that is utterly depressing. With no urgency to try to correct this with affordable rents the political establishment needs a massive shake up.
brisan wrote: » There is a whole generation of Boomerang kids out there who will vote SF in the next time around
landofthetree wrote: » So could their parents. The 'I'm alright Jack" brigade who loved to see house price increases might wake up.
brisan wrote: » We have been lucky although one child did bounce out and back twice but I know a few couples with kids in their 30s living with them To say they are not impressed is putting it lightly Christ in my day you were married and gone at 25 max. Never mind the kids not being able to have noisy sex now the parents in their 50s cant If things do not radically change then SF will walk the next election and that will be disasterous
PropQueries wrote: » All true. I wouldn't mind so much if I thought in 10 years times I could be enjoying my older years and not worried about the cash. But the way things seem to be heading, my home will be gobbled up by some variation of a future fair deal scheme and my state pension will be means tested based on either my home or my private pension i.e. I most likely won't be getting any state pension. Not sure how voting SF will help me but it seems to me that the above is both FF and FG strategy regarding my particular future.
brisan wrote: » Voting SF will PROBABLY shaft you However voting FFG HAS shafted you and your children regarding housing. People in their 20s-30s are not worried about OAP They need a place to live ,preferably their own ,that is affordable. FFG have proved beyond doubt they are incapable of that so maybe the younger generation want to give SF a chance and to be honest I do not blame them
fliball123 wrote: » Anyone looking at SF only have to look north to see how they rowed back on a lot of things they promised SF are no magic bullet and are the biggest bluffers in the game
brisan wrote: » I agree But a drowning man will grab any lifeboat And our young people are drowning
Hubertj wrote: » its like deciding who is worse - gary glitter or jimmy saville
OwlsZat wrote: » What is the craic with high house values in general? I know the infiinte office boom we were engaged in was partly done to boost GNP figures. Why the quest for high house prices? Is it linked to the predicted pension reserve shortfall?
Pelezico wrote: » Strong opinion piece by Irish Times....the mother of all shills.
landofthetree wrote: » It just wasnt economically viable to build houses in most of Ireland for a long while. Houses were selling for cheaper than they cost to build. So the FG plan was to let prices increase so builders would come back in an build like mad. It didn't happen on the scale needed. Even now it's still now viable to build apartments outside of Greater Dublin. Nice 2 apartment in Tullamore cost 130k. You couldn't build a 2 bed apartment for that.https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/1-the-old-mill-rivercourt-tara-street-tullamore/4453310
landofthetree wrote: » It just wasnt economically viable to build houses in most of Ireland for a long while. Houses were selling for cheaper than they cost to build.
OwlsZat wrote: » Really? If that was the case why didn't a flood of Irish buliders start building houses on large scale? All we got a few PLCs suggesting most real companies saw it as another bubble. Why didn't they reduce costs? Reduce VAT \ planning levies \ Stamp Duty or reduce the VAT on building materials?
Billythekid19 wrote: » Only issue is there is are very few career prospects in the likes of Tullamore. Unless you are comfortable making the 200km round trip to Dublin every day, I dont see why someone would live there unless they have family ties in the area.
