ted1 wrote: » Cars are traffic. If there was no cars there would be no traffic. Fairly obvious.. If people are sitting in cars they should look out the window and see cyclists go past and then realise they should try it.
hayoc wrote: » Its true that there is a lack of people using public transport, however, its also true that many businesses in the area still only have limited staff in the office so there is less traffic in the area from that - and yet still its become a disaster.
Cyrus wrote: » i take public transport during the week personally, i tried cycling the relatively short commute from dalkey to ballsbridge and with having a shower when i got here negating any time saved, the few near death experiences on the rock road and the behaviour of some of the other cyclists i gave up on it. I think we should incentivise car pooling in some way, the number of single driver cars is a ridiculous, but thats obviously not going to work at the moment.Cycling is never going to be for everyone.
Mav11 wrote: » That's true, but it is certainly beneficial to those that can.
Cyrus wrote: » i take public transport during the week personally, i tried cycling the relatively short commute from dalkey to ballsbridge and with having a shower when i got here negating any time saved, the few near death experiences on the rock road and the behaviour of some of the other cyclists i gave up on it. I think we should incentivise car pooling in some way, the number of single driver cars is a ridiculous, but thats obviously not going to work at the moment. Cycling is never going to be for everyone.
Cyrus wrote: » What are the benefits exactly? Exercise - sure its a bit but you need a long cycle to get any proper exercise in Time - your commute may be shorter, it may not be depending on access to public transport, showering etc Danger - car or public transport feel safer to me, maybe the stats done bear that out, but id imagine on an urban commute chances of being killed in a car must be virtually 0so benefits for some, but not benefits for all.
ted1 wrote: » I saved lots of time when going from killiney to Ballsbridge, no sitting in traffic on the N11 or Rock Road. No walking to a bus stop or Dart station, no waiting , no walking from a bus stop or DART station As for a shower, do you not have one in the morning before leaving the house ?
Mav11 wrote: » Is that not what I said?
hayoc wrote: » I used to cycle to a job in the past and it really wasnt that beneficial - it was just so dangerous. Plus I had constant saddle sores from cycling home in clothes that had been wetted through that morning. A variety of injuries from coming off the bike on black ice or potholes. Frankly, I hated it. Eventually I gave it up and took the car and instead went for a swim before work. Much better exercise (for me), much more relaxing. I never went back to the bike again.
hayoc wrote: » Wouldnt be an option for me or many of my workmates, we simply live too far to cycle to work. Some people have physical issues that would prevent them from cycling too. I carry a huge amount of stuff to and from work, wouldnt be possible by bike even without the distance. Plus - I just dont like it. Too many near death experiences on the roads as a cyclist in the past. .
Cyrus wrote: » you said benefits for everyone that can i can, but i dont see the benefits.
hayoc wrote: » I used to cycle to a job in the past and it really wasnt that beneficial - it was just so dangerous. Plus I had constant saddle sores from cycling home in clothes that had been wetted through that morning. A variety of injuries from coming off the bike on black ice or potholes. Frankly, I hated it.
ted1 wrote: » How far is to far ? I do killiney to the airport and back daily.
ted1 wrote: » How far is to far ? I do killiney to the airport and back daily. The people will physically issues would be in the minority. Why are you bringing so much stuff daily ? Why not leave it in the office ? To many near death experiences, exactly what the segregated cycle lane is aiming to Eliminate, so by your own admission they are needed and will encourage more people to cycle. Good idea to get a bike to nip down to the 40ft. In the evening parking isn’t an issue. If the kids come with us there’s usually a few spots. In 2057 the footpath will be competed and you can swim in the sea where the baths were
ted1 wrote: » So you wore the wrong clothes. There is a reason people where padded Lycra and also use mud guards in the winter. Dedicated segregated cycle lanes remove alot of the dangers
ted1 wrote: » How far is to far ? I do killiney to the airport and back daily. T
Mav11 wrote: » Lookit, not getting into clever semantics on this issue, just google "benefits of cycling".
Cyrus wrote: » i may as well google the benefits of walking or jogging
Cyrus wrote: » fair play to you, i admire that, genuinely. I was offered a job in swords and turned it down because of the commute, i wouldnt cycle and have no interest in taking a car that far every day either. how long does it take you?
Mav11 wrote: » Mightn't do you any harm:D
Tabnabs wrote: » Enjoyed the tailback from Glasthule village to Dun Laoghaire again this morning. Turned down by the Peoples Park and marvelled at the two cyclists using the bespoke cycling infrastructure, a 100% increase from Monday and Tuesday, so there is that... It's a power grab by a minority leisure user group, and the futility and waste of public tax payers money by the NTA for "temporary" infrastructure will yet turn out to be a political scandal when local councillors and tds are put under pressure from their voter base to restore a level of normality.
Homesick Alien wrote: » Can the people complaining about cycling being too dangerous not see that this is the whole point of the segregated cycle lanes?! The argument seems to be "I don't want cycle lanes because I don't like cycling because cycling is too dangerous" which is a completely circular argument. My own experience cycling along the seafront from Monkstown to Blackrock in the mornings is that there very little car traffic on that road. A car might go past every 30-40 seconds.
hayoc wrote: » Cycling isnt just dangerous because of cars on the road though? Most of my own accidents were due to weather, stuff on the roads (ie, a nail causing a sudden puncture), and badly maintained roads (potholes).
