FarmerBob wrote: » Not so, lots of pedestrian crossings are on auto, so they run every time regardless of whether someone is waiting to cross or not.
But the way Dublin has developed means that way too many people live 10, 20 or 30k from work ..
public transport is usually either not feasible or just too jammed to use.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » ...If it's jammed, then people are using it and finding it feasible :rolleyes:...
markpb wrote: » Lots? I haven't seen a junction in Dublin configured like that in years. Where are they?
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » Can you provide an example of a single one which automatically stops traffic?
Dr_Colossus wrote: » Driving in Dublin is a nightmare and I believe light sequences are a contributor. Drive along the likes of the north or south circular roads for instance at any time of day or night and you’ll never get a continuous flow without traffic lights impeding progress. I don’t understand how commuters can stick driving on a daily basis
Dr_Colossus wrote: » .... In many years of cycling both sides of the quays averaging 30km/h I’ve never once had a continuous run without having to stop at multiple red lights...
beauf wrote: » My train is shorter than its ever been. That's not helping with the overcrowding. I got fed up with it. Before the lockdown, I'd switched back to mostly driving. I've had a annual train pass for many years. Didn't renew it this year in January.
Dr_Colossus wrote: » North quays at Millennium Bridge is definitely one, cycle through there every morning shortly after 06:00 and there's rarely if ever any pedestrians but lights often red for traffic.
Ha'penny Bridge crossing is only about 100m later and lights often red there also despite no pedestrians but that's on a separate sequence to allow traffic exit from Liffey Street Lower onto the quays so not entirely pedestrian crossing related.
Driving in Dublin is a nightmare and I believe light sequences are a contributor. Drive along the likes of the north or south circular roads for instance at any time of day or night and you’ll never get a continuous flow without traffic lights impeding progress. I don’t understand how commuters can stick driving on a daily basis
markpb wrote: » Also you're calling it a stick when it's not. Improving conditions for pedestrians is done to improve conditions for pedestrians, not because someone in DCC is sitting behind a desk cackling because they're making life worse for motorists.
markpb wrote: » CSO/Census data says that your anecdotal experience is not correct. There might be many people driving around the M50 each day but there are also many, many people making trips much shorter than that.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » You can't expect everyone to live within 10km of their work even in the most densely populated high rise city. It's reasonable that many of those who do though could switch to cycling. Motorcycling is also a totally overlooked congestion-busting alternative in this country for distances over 10km.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » If it's jammed, then people are using it and finding it feasible :rolleyes: Yes more capacity is needed but getting more private cars off the road allows the existing bus fleet to provide much more and more frequent capacity Dublin really needs a metro, but how many of your fellow farmers do you think would agree?
FarmerBob wrote: » Both side of the river at Four Courts...both sides of river at Capel St Bridge,,crossings at Halfpoenny bridge...O'Connell Bridge...etc etc
Metro is years over due...
magicbastarder wrote: » Dr_Colossus wrote: » Driving in Dublin is a nightmare and I believe light sequences are a contributor. Drive along the likes of the north or south circular roads for instance at any time of day or night and you’ll never get a continuous flow without traffic lights impeding progress. I don’t understand how commuters can stick driving on a daily basis i suspect it's other traffic which is a greater impediment on progress?
Dr_Colossus wrote: » North quays at Millennium Bridge is definitely one, cycle through there every morning shortly after 06:00 and there's rarely if ever any pedestrians but lights often red for traffic. Hotblack Desiato wrote: » How can you be sure somebody didn't press the button then cross before the green man?
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » How can you be sure somebody didn't press the button then cross before the green man?
LeinsterDub wrote: » As a motorist you get 90% of the transport funding. 90% of the road allocation. The majority of the time at the lights. Can basically drive door to door to most destinations. And you're here to plead the beal bocht?
MrMusician18 wrote: » Just wait until you're in a rush to get somewhere and then come back to us.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » Like when you're walking on the west side of Westmoreland Street and want to get to the east side of O'Connell Street? Pedestrians have been treated like utter sh!t in the city centre for decades.
The proposed bus stops on the Dundrum Bypass will be fully accessible for those who are mobility-challenged, with accessible routes available to Main St., Dundrum Town Centre and close to the Wyckham Way Roundabout. In planning the proposed changes to bus routes and stops, we have worked closely with the National Transport Authority (NTA) and the public bus companies, so as to ensure that the adverse effects of the changes will be kept to a minimum. However, in order to provide the critical safety measures on Main St. and Sandyford Road and to reallocate space for the safety of pedestrians and cyclists, the alterations to the bus routes are deemed necessary.
Whilst most of the stakeholders we have engaged with were positive about what we are proposing, not all were and we will engage further with stakeholders as the project proceeds.
Naked Lepper wrote: » turning right at SCR into kilmainham is the worst
magicbastarder wrote: » was wondering the other day, if they wanted to make the lights more pedestrian friendly, why not change the sequence of the lights, rather than the timings alone? e.g. at some junctions i've seen, they go green for north, then south, then east, then west, then pedestrian, then repeat. why not do N, S, Ped, E, W, Ped, then repeat? rather than N, S, E, W, Ped, repeat? i was third in a queue at some lights the other day and the lights were already red again by the time i has halfway through the junction after them going green.
punisher5112 wrote: » Why they got the notion to do what they're doing creating more traffic then ever and constant stop and start.
donvito99 wrote: » The rationale was publicised. Discourage people from travelling long distances (e.g. make driving less convenient) and reduce the risk of pedestrians infecting one another.
punisher5112 wrote: » On a green plan it's crazy, more pollution.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » As if you care about pollution, all you do is give out about the Greens. Do you even believe there's such thing as harmful pollution? Funny how people bend things to suit their agenda.
punisher5112 wrote: » ? Of course I do... The greens are about tax and more tax and anything else they can add money on... If vehicles have to constantly stop start that's worse. The light sequence is gone mad.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » If it's taxes that are required to stop our unfettered planet destroying consumption then so be it.
