Pete_Cavan wrote: » How likely/possible is it that extra track be provided at Shanganagh as part of DART+ Coastal South, even if only one northbound? You could have 2km of extra track without demolishing anything which could allow Wexford trains overtake a DART at Woodbrook.
loyatemu wrote: » the tender for Woodbrook is already out and the design for the big development around the station is done.
prunudo wrote: » Any idea if they left scope for expansion or is it typical of other developments and designed right to the boundary. OT but always thought that section between Bray and Shankill would make a great place for integration into a future metro line to link up to Sandyford.
loyatemu wrote: » Woodbrook plans are here:https://www.woodbrook1shd.com/drawingsarchitecture and the answer to your question is no, they didn't TBH I don't think a passing loop so close to Bray would make much difference anyway. the proposed Luas extension of the Green Line doesn't use the old Harcourt alignment, instead it goes into "Little Bray" (the bit of Bray north of the Dargle) and connects with the Dart at Bray Station (at least that was the previous preferred route, they'll probably have to redo the design if it gets back into the planning process).
cgcsb wrote: » Rosslare is a bit of a conundrum. I think that we'll see when the high speed rail study comes out that there'll be some political quid pro quo for the lesser used lines Sligo, Rosslare etc. basically if we're connecting the three cities by hsr the towns on lesser used lines will have to get some line speed improvements. It's shouldn't be hard to improve speeds on the Rosslare line, most of the slowness is not accounted for by sharing with DART but rather the ****e single track further south. It takes 2 hours to get from Rosslare to Greystones by train, work out a programme to reduce that to 1.5hrs or less and increase the frequency of the service and the politics of stopping Rosslare trains and swapping to DART at Greystones goes away.
IE 222 wrote: » Its possible but what about the other 4 or 5 Darts in front of it before it got there. You'd only be knocking 2-3 mins off the journey provided the Rosslare can approach without having to wait for the Dart to clear the line. To gain any worthwhile improvements for the line your talking doubling Bray Head and treble tracking about 50% of the line. That's hundards of €million to serve 1 route with a 1000 commuters.
AngryLips wrote: » RIP the Rosslare line
BonnieSituation wrote: » One would assume that the amount of commuters would grow with a better service. Anyway... --- Tbh, any further coastal expansion is a bit pointless given the cost and the erosion that will become a growing problem. The line needs to go inland really somewhere. Now that is a bigger ballache to deal with.
cgcsb wrote: » only 1000 using a rubbish service but tens of thousands using bus services and driving cars up the motorway because that's faster and better value than the rubbish train service. I see there's a big spend project upgrading the M11 for all the people who think the train service to Wicklow and Wexford is rubbish.
cgcsb wrote: » Just pull road funding then. A policy of widening existing commuter motorways is counter productive in this day and age. If there is a capacity issue on motorways build PT
bk wrote: » Well there are motorways like the M20 that still desperately need doing.
BonnieSituation wrote: » Yes. But not at the expense of PT in a capital city that has been crying out for rail upgrades for half a century.
cgcsb wrote: » That's a new motorway that provides an inter-city and port connecting function. A different concept to widening an existing commuter motorway to encourage more rural to city car commuting. The M28 and and the Foynes-Adare motorways are also justifiable on that basis.
bk wrote: » Of course, I'm not suggesting that for a moment! Though Cork has been massively underinvested compared to Dublin over the past 30 years. Every motorway leads to Dublin, M50, port tunnel, Luas, vastly better bus services, Dart. And hopefully soon Metrolink, Dart+, Busconnects, etc. The least they could do for Cork is build the M20! Of course hopefully we will also see a big improvement in Cork Bus Service under Busconnects, maybe Cork Luas, improvements to rail (Blarney), etc. I agree completely, that clarification just wasn't clear from your comment.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » ...rebuild of Maynooth station or, if enough space doesn't exist there, moving the terminus west.
Rulmeq wrote: » Will they consider bringing it as far as kilcock (or even Enfield!) given that the depot will practically be in Kilcock anyway.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » The no brainer location for a P&R is west of Kilcock beside Musgraves, directly off the M4 J8;https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.407587,-6.6844645,542m/data=!3m1!1e3 Could have four platforms there, only about 2km of extra double track beyond the depot.
loyatemu wrote: » depends how straightforward or not it is to double thru Kilcock, but yeah looks like a better location.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » The terminating station for DART needs a turnback platform to avoid repeating the problems which already exist on the network. That would require a rebuild of Maynooth station or, if enough space doesn't exist there, moving the terminus west.
