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Julian Assange arrested after Ecuador withdraw asylum

Samuel Vimes

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47891737

Wikileaks co-founder Julian Assange has been arrested at the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Looks like they got fed up with this spoilt egomanic and withdrew his asylum.
I have always considered him a loathsome self serving prick.
Betting on the US now seeking his extradition?

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ohnonotgmail

end of the road wrote: »

the fact they weren't his to leak doesn't matter, they were in the public interest to leak and he rightly leaked them.
the world isn't less safe because he leaked them, probably more safe actually.
criminals should always be exposed, because it's a state that have decided they are the good guys doesn't change that.

were they in the interest of the people he put in danger by leaking their names? I suppose assange can claim ignorance of that because he never actually read 99% of what he released.

end of the road

AMKC wrote: »

I would Assange is sorry he ever leaked all them files now. His life is ruined and he will end up seeing the rest of it out either in a prison in the UK or the US. Secrets that he leaked are there for a reason. It was not for him to leak them. He made the world less safe by doing so. Maybe he got a kick out of it at the time but I would say he has long since forgotten that. So really was it worth it? I doubt it.

the fact they weren't his to leak doesn't matter, they were in the public interest to leak and he rightly leaked them.
the world isn't less safe because he leaked them, probably more safe actually.
criminals should always be exposed, because it's a state that have decided they are the good guys doesn't change that.

AMKC

I would Assange is sorry he ever leaked all them files now. His life is ruined and he will end up seeing the rest of it out either in a prison in the UK or the US. Secrets that he leaked are there for a reason. It was not for him to leak them. He made the world less safe by doing so. Maybe he got a kick out of it at the time but I would say he has long since forgotten that. So really was it worth it? I doubt it.

biko

Interesting

“The [US] request seeks extradition for what is a classic ‘political offence’. Extradition for a political offence is expressly prohibited by article 4(1) of the Anglo-US extradition treaty. Therefore, it constitutes an abuse of this court’s process to require this court to extradite on the basis of the Anglo-US treaty in breach of the treaty’s express provisions.”

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/07/julian-assange-extradition-hearing-begins-at-old-bailey-wikileaks

ShatterAlan

Deleted User wrote: »

Update Assange could be convicted up to 175 years in US prison: could he become a 'suicide' statistic?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54060427

If it was a Chinese whistleblower who was banged up in Belmarsh Prison for exposing Beijing war crimes against, e.g. Uighurs. and The UK government were then threatened by China to have him sent to China to face the music and the rest of his life in prison simply for legally publishing State crimes...then what would be the mood?

[Deleted User]

Update Assange could be convicted up to 175 years in US prison: could he become a 'suicide' statistic?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54060427

the purple tin

eagle eye wrote: »

What do they call you? Is it a conspiracy conspiracy theorist?

Call me what you like, Honey. Just not before 9:00

[Deleted User]

the purple tin wrote: »

Wikileaks is a limited hangout set up by US intelligence agencies through Assange to intercept whistleblower's data before it goes public.

Also used to leak certain info, true or otherwise to the public to further their own causes.

What verifiably untrue information have wikileaks published?

eagle eye

the purple tin wrote:

Wikileaks is a limited hangout set up by US intelligence agencies through Assange to intercept whistleblower's data before it goes public.

What do they call you? Is it a conspiracy conspiracy theorist?

the purple tin

Deleted User wrote: »

My oh my. I have no idea if assange is guilty but a fair few here seem dedicated to their political beliefs and are judging a man guilty or not guilty based on that. Mostly usual suspects but a few I'm surprised to see.

Wikileaks in my opinion will be one of the most important outlets that ever existed.

Wikileaks is a limited hangout set up by US intelligence agencies through Assange to intercept whistleblower's data before it goes public.

Also used to leak certain info, true or otherwise to the public to further their own causes.

[Deleted User]

My oh my. I have no idea if assange is guilty but a fair few here seem dedicated to their political beliefs and are judging a man guilty or not guilty based on that. Mostly usual suspects but a few I'm surprised to see.

Wikileaks in my opinion will be one of the most important outlets that ever existed.

the purple tin

biko wrote: »

Sweden should have dropped their charges years ago.
They are just US puppets.

Equador is one of the biggest US puppet states going. That they would even think of defying the US is laughable.
This whole thing from beginning to end has been hogwash.

Capt'n Midnight

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm just reading his hearing has been put back to November.
it.

Did he expect to get rewarded for not isolating ?

eagle eye

I'm just reading his hearing has been put back to November.
I think all of this shows the world that there is not only corruption at the highest levels of government but that they'll go to any lengths to protect it.

seenitall

biko wrote: »

They are just US puppets.

Not just Sweden, though. The UK as well. And what if he had run into the Irish embassy? His end wouldn't have been any different than now, for sure.

He's toast, what with all the drugging and whatever awaits him stateside.

I don't think much of him as a man (narcissistic screwed up person imo and that is toxic in interpersonal relationships), but he has accomplished something seminal in the use of WWW as a significant channel for whistleblowers, and now that cat is out of the bag forevermore.

But all this show isn't about justice at all at all, it's about Uncle Sam getting his revenge quite blatantly, and it is, frankly, disgusting. Almost makes me want to go live in China or something. At least there is no pretence that they won't crush ya like a juggernaut if you cross them.

ohnonotgmail

biko wrote: »

Sweden should have dropped their charges years ago.
They are just US puppets.

They were forced to drop the charges because Assange hid away for so long so witness testimony can no longer be relied on.

biko

Sweden should have dropped their charges years ago.
They are just US puppets.

pure.conya

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he still has a prison sentence for breaching bail to finish

no he doesn't, just before he finished his sentence a judge decided he wasn't being out again anyway

20Wheel

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=othHFwfqmbw

Now the extradition to US.

Quick kangaroo court.

Locked up.

Then the " "suicide" ".

Outlaw Pete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=othHFwfqmbw

BattleCorp

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he still has a prison sentence for breaching bail to finish

I thought he had finished his sentence for breaching bail and was just on general lockup seeing as he was a flight risk as Sweden/US wanted him deported.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

Where would that leave him legally? I'm not really following this.

he still has a prison sentence for breaching bail to finish

[Deleted User]

Where would that leave him legally? I'm not really following this.

Outlaw Pete

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1196778017001033731

20Wheel

recedite wrote: »

Interesting account here from an eyewitness who saw Assange being presented to the Americans "on a plate" during a hearing. The CIA are obviously calling all the shots now. The Swedes, like Pontius Pilate, have washed their hands of the whole thing.

Mentally and physically Assange has been reduced to a shadow of his former self. He seems barely able to comprehend what is happening to him.
Unfortunately, all his lawyer can do for him is to try and argue for a delay in the extradition. But a delay is just more time for Assange in the solitary confinement cell in Belmarsh. He is caught between a rock and a very hard place.

Its amazing how a dissident political journalist can be so utterly destroyed, in a 21st century democracy.

Meanwhile... (Not a joke)

The power of the false accusation. No man is immune.

scamalert

end of the road wrote: »

no just a journalist.
if america had behaved itself then julian wouldn't have had to expose anything in relation to them.
goes for any country misbehaving around the world and then whining when their activities get exposed.

Its not whining as we seen with Snowden case if hes ever to come back it would be guaranteed max sentence for life in prison. Yet he was made villain and enemy of state for exposing that government tracks countries, their own people and uses influence and corruption to get things done - which by US standards warrants him life in prison, if ever US get their hands on him.

end of the road

Jamsiek wrote: »

Setting the bar low for journalism then
He conveniently helped the Russians and they tried to get him to escape he UK

i'm not exactly a fan of the russians either, but if they had managed to help him escape the uk, and in turn extradition to america, then that would have been a good thing.

Jamsiek

end of the road wrote: »

no just a journalist.
if america had behaved itself then julian wouldn't have had to expose anything in relation to them.
goes for any country misbehaving around the world and then whining when their activities get exposed.

Setting the bar low for journalism then
He conveniently helped the Russians and they tried to get him to escape he UK

end of the road

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Journalist my arse.

no just a journalist.
if america had behaved itself then julian wouldn't have had to expose anything in relation to them.
goes for any country misbehaving around the world and then whining when their activities get exposed.

Hotblack Desiato

Journalist my arse.