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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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Brian?

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Mostly hearsay but largely whataboutery which doesn't address the point which was that Biden is a proven liar who had to drop out of running for President when this was revealed about him. The media seem to be giving him a pass on it now though as I haven't heard any of the talking heads call him on it, so far at least.

Biden was caught lying and dropped out.

Trump has been caught lying 20,000 times and tents he ever lied.

I know who I trust.

Carfacemandog

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Trump's a good man.

Thats a flat out weird opinion to have of a codefendant on child rape charges with Jeffrey Epstein, that is on record bragging about perving on semi naked underage girls at his beauty pageants.

Brian?

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Trump's a good man. I see no evidence that Biden is. All he does is say what he believes his base want him to. That's what all his pandering is about. You think he believes that crap? Not a chance. Trump has heart. Biden barely a soul. Sold it long ago.

Trump is not a good man.

He's a liar who cheated on all 3 of his wives. He had sex with a porn star while his wife was nursing. He was accused of rape by his first wife. He openly bragged about sexually harassing women. These are facts. I'd have way more respect for you if you defended his policies while admitting he wasn't a decent human being.

I believe Biden is a decent human being. You may not. But there are no facts to counter my beliefs.

statesaver

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Trump's a good man. I see no evidence that Biden is. All he does is say what he believes his base want him to. That's what all his pandering is about. You think he believes that crap? Not a chance. Trump has heart. Biden barely a soul. Sold it long ago.

Even Kamala thinks Biden is a racist.

francois

statesaver wrote: »

Even Kamala thinks Biden is a racist.

Worst. Strawman. Ever.

Kidchameleon

statesaver wrote: »

Even Kamala thinks Biden is a racist.

She also thinks he's a sex abuser

statesaver

francois wrote: »

Worst. Strawman. Ever.

She does, she said it in the democratic debate.

Do keep up frankie, you're backing a racist.

francois

statesaver wrote: »

She does, she said it in the democratic debate.

Do keep up frankie, you're backing a racist.

2nd worst strawman ever

Cody montana

statesaver wrote: »

Even Kamala thinks Biden is a racist.

False. Harris criticized Biden on certain topics related to race during a debate in June 2019, but she prefaced those remarks with “I do not believe you are a racist.”

Why do you people lie so much?

Kidchameleon

Cody montana wrote: »

False. Harris criticized Biden on certain topics related to race during a debate in June 2019, but she prefaced those remarks with “I do not believe you are a racist.”

Why do you people lie so much?

Well she has said she beleive's the women who accused Biden of sexual abuse

extra gravy

Cody montana wrote: »

Why do you people lie so much?

They're just taking after their hero, what a great example he is.

Cody montana

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well she has said she beleive's the women who accused Biden of sexual abuse

Really?
Sexual abuse?

Care to back that up please.

Cody montana

extra gravy wrote: »

They're just taking after their hero, what a great example he is.

The way they believe everything and research nothing is astounding.

Kidchameleon

Cody montana wrote: »

Really?
Sexual abuse?

Care to back that up please.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-kamala-harris-believed-women-who-accused-biden

Cody montana

Kidchameleon wrote: »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-kamala-harris-believed-women-who-accused-biden

So nothing....again.
Did you read what you posted btw?

Igotadose

Kidchameleon wrote: »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-kamala-harris-believed-women-who-accused-biden

Ok care to back up your accusation of sexual abuse with something that backs it up? Obviously not that article. Try again.

Kidchameleon

Cody montana wrote: »

So nothing....again.
Did you read what you posted btw?

How would you feel if some creepy old man came up to you and started inappropriately touching you? Would you consider it "nothing"?

Kidchameleon

Igotadose wrote: »

Ok care to back up your accusation of sexual abuse with something that backs it up? Obviously not that article. Try again.

That is sexual abuse. Lower end of the spectrum of course

Eric Cartman

I see theres quotes floating round the twittersphere about trump making comments about South Africa back in the day,

Cohen alleged that Trump praised apartheid-era South Africa rule, saying: “Mandela f—ed the whole country up. Now it’s a s—hole. F— Mandela. He was no leader.”

I don't think thats praising apartheid but the rest of it is absolutely correct, Mandela ruined that country for blacks and whites.

Cody montana

Kidchameleon wrote: »

How would you feel if some creepy old man came up to you and started inappropriately touching you? Would you consider it "nothing"?

You tell me.

I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait,” Trump said. “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
DJT

Igotadose

Kidchameleon wrote: »

That is sexual abuse. Lower end of the spectrum of course

None of the women accused Biden of sexual abuse. Sexual abuse is, for example, grabbing them by the genitals when you're a big star.

So, I repeat, show an allegation of sexual abuse or retract

[Deleted User]

Kidchameleon wrote: »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-kamala-harris-believed-women-who-accused-biden

Wasn't it only yesterday you said Fox New wasn't a reliable source of information?

Kidchameleon

Cody montana wrote: »

You tell me.

Im going to assume that because you didnt answer the question, you feel what Biden did was not "nothing".

And of course its not nothing. We've all seen the videos of him touching women and smelling childrens hair. Its repugnant. He's a dirty old man.

Kidchameleon

DubInMeath wrote: »

Wasn't it only yesterday you said Fox New wasn't a reliable source of information?

Nope

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Apartheid wasn't good, but neither were the ANC, apartheid needed to end , but the cure was as bad as the disease. It is possible to be critical of nelson mandalas dictatorship without supporting apartheid.

You can of course criticise Mandela.

It takes a special kind or person to call the first democratically elected president of SA a dictator who ruined the country. And special I mean a narrow minded bigot.

He didn’t ruin the country. The apartheid regime
Did. He didn’t do a great job of recovering SA from apartheid. But at least he tried. And he definitely was never a dictator.

Carfacemandog

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Apartheid wasn't good, but neither were the ANC, apartheid needed to end , but the cure was as bad as the disease. It is possible to be critical of nelson mandalas dictatorship without supporting apartheid.

He served one term as president that he won in an election he won democratically, so I'll need to ask what you're talking about here.

Billy Mays

This Cartman character really doesn't like black people, does he?

Eric Cartman

Brian? wrote: »

You can of course criticise Mandela.

It takes a special kind or person to call the first democratically elected president of SA a dictator who ruined the country. And special I mean a narrow minded bigot.

He didn’t ruin the country. The apartheid regime
Did. He didn’t do a great job of recovering SA from apartheid. But at least he tried. And he definitely was never a dictator.

they swung the pendulum the other way completely, white farmers being killed to take their land, when a black person commits a crime you have to publish a picture of white hands in handcuffs in the paper. the ANC reinvisaged SA as a corrupt dictatorship with elections where only the ANC stood a chance and it is now more violent and poorer for black and white people.

its going off topic so to reign it back in, if that trump quote is true ill throw my stamp of approval on it.

Cody montana

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Im going to assume that because you didnt answer the question, you feel what Biden did was not "nothing".

And of course its not nothing. We've all seen the videos of him touching women and smelling childrens hair. Its repugnant. He's a dirty old man.

It was inappropriate, yes.
And he's apologised.

So what about trump bragging about actually sexual assaulting people?
Do you hold him to the same standard?

Or this

“Cohen depicts Trump as being crude toward women, including commenting on Cohen’s then-15-year-old daughter as she finished up a tennis lesson: ‘Look at that piece of ass,’ Trump said. ‘I would love some of that.’”

or this

"I've said that if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.”

[Deleted User]

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Nope

Of course not