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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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Akesh

It's funny watching those on the far left decide which sexual assault is believable based on the political allegiances of the accused.

Kidchameleon

extra gravy wrote: »

What sources? Because none of Biden’s staff at the time witnessed or corroborated any wrongdoing. Or are you referring to the family members or friends she allegedly told? You don't seem to know the difference between a primary and a secondary source.

I was referring to the family members

extra gravy

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I was referring to the family members

I thought so. In this case, the sources were actually present and witnessed the incident when it happened. Do you think they are all lying?

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

No. Those claims are not credible.

why not?

LessOutragePlz

"Billionaire philanthropist Laurene Powell Jobs, the majority owner of The Atlantic, has donated over $1.2 million to former Vice President Joe Biden and other Democratic candidates and groups since 2019, Federal Election Commission records show."

Hmmmmmmm sure is quite convenient that they published a Trump hit piece when the majority owner of the publication has supported the Democrats with big donations including over $610k to Biden.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/04/laurene-powell-jobs-jeffrey-goldberg-democrats/

"Powell Jobs contributed $2,800 to former Vice President Joe Biden’s primary campaign in October, and in June she divvied out an additional $610,600 to the Biden Victory Fund. She’s also provided maxed out donations to at least 66 other Democratic politicians since the start of 2019, all the while providing nothing to Republican candidates, according to Federal Election Commission records."

Kidchameleon

extra gravy wrote: »

I thought so. In this case, the sources were actually present and witnessed the incident when it happened. Do you think they are all lying?

Anyone with a tiny bit of cop on knows they are lying.

Timberrrrrrrr

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

"Billionaire philanthropist Laurene Powell Jobs, the majority owner of The Atlantic, has donated over $1.2 million to former Vice President Joe Biden and other Democratic candidates and groups since 2019, Federal Election Commission records show."

Hmmmmmmm sure is quite convenient that they published a Trump hit piece when the majority owner of the publication has supported the Democrats with big donations including over $610k to Biden.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/04/laurene-powell-jobs-jeffrey-goldberg-democrats/

"Powell Jobs contributed $2,800 to former Vice President Joe Biden’s primary campaign in October, and in June she divvied out an additional $610,600 to the Biden Victory Fund. She’s also provided maxed out donations to at least 66 other Democratic politicians since the start of 2019, all the while providing nothing to Republican candidates, according to Federal Election Commission records."

How many times has Trump slagged off AOC? He also donated to her campaigns :pac:

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Anyone with a tiny bit of cop on knows they are lying.

so Reads family are to be believed but actual witnesses to Trumps actions are lying

You really do need to try harder, your going down the lacking in effort road now.

Cody montana

Akesh wrote: »

It's funny watching those on the far left decide which sexual assault is believable based on the political allegiances of the accused.

Based on evidence and credibility.

namloc1980

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Multiple women have claimed Trump sexually assaulted them, do you believe those womens claims?

Kidchameleon wrote: »

No. Those claims are not credible.

Those on the left? Mmmmmmmmm.

Akesh wrote: »

It's funny watching those on the far left decide which sexual assault is believable based on the political allegiances of the accused.

lawred2

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I wont write it off but I have not as yet had a chance to fact check it. The short answer to your question is Trump is human, we all lie.

And how would you "fact check" it?

What credible sources are available to you?

Spoofer

dwayneshintzy

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

If the reports are true and Trump did say all the things being reported.......would that be enough to turn you against him?

Not sure if you've missed this one, but I'd be very interested in an answer.

If these comments ARE true, would they be enough to turn you against Donald Trump?

Cody montana

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Anyone with a tiny bit of cop on knows they are lying.

That rules you out so.

Carfacemandog

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Anyone with a tiny bit of cop on knows they are lying.

You seem to have missed it so I'll ask again...

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I wont write it off but I have not as yet had a chance to fact check it. The short answer to your question is Trump is human, we all lie.

Here is your fact check, from the horses mouth himself: "John McCain is a loser."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/622522682245033984

Will you now accept that Trump did indeed call McCain a loser and lied when he recently claimed he didn't?

Eric Cartman

5th September 2020 , the day id never thought id see, where the boards left will use fox news as a credible source because it suits their agenda.

Carfacemandog

Eric Cartman wrote: »

5th September 2020 , the day id never thought id see, where the boards left will use fox news as a credible source because it suits their agenda.

You again are ignoring the Associated Press confirming the story. Since you're now trying to claim Fox News is unreliable due to apparently having anti Trump biases, do you accept the AP confirmation?

LessOutragePlz

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Not sure if you've missed this one, but I'd be very interested in an answer.

If these comments ARE true, would they be enough to turn you against Donald Trump?

I just couldn't vote for Biden so Trump is the only alternative in this 2 horse race.

And if you were to ask me why I couldn't vote for Biden I would say he is a lackluster candidate that doesn't bring the same kind of energy and drama that Trump does during his campaigning and presidency.

Cody montana

Eric Cartman wrote: »

5th September 2020 , the day id never thought id see, where the boards left will use fox news as a credible source because it suits their agenda.

Again, what news sources are reputable Iyo?

Kidchameleon

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Will you now accept that Trump did indeed call McCain a loser and lied when he recently claimed he didn't?

I already have. Pay attention.

dwayneshintzy

Eric Cartman wrote: »

5th September 2020 , the day id never thought id see, where the boards left will use fox news as a credible source because it suits their agenda.

They are one of the sources being listed, alongside The Atlantic and the AP. Most likely being promoted because it's harder to accuse Fox News of pro-Biden bias.

Though evidently not impossible.

[Deleted User]

Eric Cartman wrote: »

5th September 2020 , the day id never thought id see, where the boards left will use fox news as a credible source because it suits their agenda.

It's more the fact that it's been verified by multiple sources. Like it's probably a much bigger sign of delusion when people such as yourself are treating the AP as a biased source when they verified the sorry too.

dwayneshintzy

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I just couldn't vote for Biden so Trump is the only alternative in this 2 horse race.

And if you were to ask me why I couldn't vote for Biden I would say he is a lackluster candidate that doesn't bring the same kind of energy and drama that Trump does during his campaigning and presidency.

Energy and drama? That's what you base your vote for a candidate on?!?!

ChikiChiki

Eric Cartman wrote: »

5th September 2020 , the day id never thought id see, where the boards left will use fox news as a credible source because it suits their agenda.

If a recording emerged of the comments would you still support Trump?

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

If it wasnt from a publication that fabricated ‘things he said’ in the past maybe but the atlantic are bottom tier biased for making up things

What about it being confirmed elsewhere?

lawred2

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I just couldn't vote for Biden so Trump is the only alternative in this 2 horse race.

And if you were to ask me why I couldn't vote for Biden I would say he is a lackluster candidate that doesn't bring the kind of energy and drama that Trump does during his campaigning and presidency.

He brings 'drama' alright... Usually the outrageous kind as he engages in basic populism.

Which is somewhat ironic when you see that your username is "LessOutragePlz"

Eric Cartman

ChikiChiki wrote: »

If a recording emerged of the comments would you still support Trump?

While the comments are abhorrent, on the offchance that they are true, he would still be ahead of joe biden for me.

Timberrrrrrrr

Eric Cartman wrote: »

5th September 2020 , the day id never thought id see, where the boards left will use fox news as a credible source because it suits their agenda.

And the day that Trump supporters who usually swear Fox is the most reliable source is suddenly wrong.

Eric Cartman

Brian? wrote: »

What about it being confirmed elsewhere?

It is entirely possible 2 staffers were paid off and have just said it to the same news outlets, AP are also all about speed, wouldnt be shocked if they were just copying the atlantics story as ‘fact’ without confirming.

It just doesnt sit right that the first publication to have it is the one that made up the ‘n word tape’ story

Eric Cartman

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And the day that Trump supporters who usually swear Fox is the most reliable source is suddenly wrong.

I have never used fox news as a credible source, they were always and will always be dirt to me

dwayneshintzy

Eric Cartman wrote: »

It is entirely possible 2 staffers were paid off and have just said it to the same news outlets, AP are also all about speed, wouldnt be shocked if they were just copying the atlantics story as ‘fact’ without confirming.

It just doesnt sit right that the first publication to have it is the one that made up the ‘n word tape’ story

Well then, you'd be accusing their reporter who said he verified the quotes of being a liar.