The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
AndyBoBandy wrote: » Just watch any of Bjorn's 1,000km challenge videos to see what real EV charging infrastructure/hubs should look like....
Deleted User wrote: » I read recently Norway has 70% of new cars registered in 2020 as EV ? Ireland what , 2% max ? Why are we addicted so much to Petrol and Diesel in a small Island, I mean it's not like you can pack the car and drive off the Island ffs. Cost ? Charge times, Both ? Perhaps it's a lot easier to get a charge point in an apartment virtually impossible in Ireland without jumping through lots of hoops and begging management agencies.
cruisey1987 wrote: » Yeah, Ireland in principle is one of the easiest places to own an EV in the world. You can't really drive more than 500km without a boat and the weather is generally mild so not huge losses due to heating/cooling the car. From what I keep hearing, it's the lack of infrastructure which keeps people worried about running out of charge. The irony is that forcing utility companies like ESB to build chargers is totally the wrong approach, they'll never make much money from the charging rates. Getting the service stations to install DC chargers is a smarter idea, they can get away with not making much money from the electricity since they're making huge profits from the coffee and snacks that EV drivers are buying. Creating a grants system tailored by location type would be the best approach IMHO. For example if a service station installs a bunch of 22kW chargers then no grant money, since that's an unsuitable charger for that location. It would also make it much easier to create and enforce standards like: Service stations: Min 150kW Min 4 stations Redundant comms Credit/Debit card payment available On site staff trained to reset/debug chargers Supermarkets: Min 50kW Min 2 stations Credit/Debit card payment available Shopping centers/Paid Car parks 11kW AC or 50kW DC Lots of stations On street parking: 7kW AC Lots of stations Preferred rates for permit holders
Deleted User wrote: » All nice but not going to happen in Ireland until the manufacturers stop producing ICE's lol then we'll still be years behind. having said that I really do thing that until infrastructure improves worldwide and charge times improve that a small generator like the i3 Rex is a really great idea and remove the need completely for mega battery size + infrastructure. Generate the electricity on the fly..... Yeah I know bla bla it burns petrol, weighs about 200 Kg but it's bloody convenient when I want and need it and a real shame they removed it from the 120 Ah.
cruisey1987 wrote: » Yeah there's a place for range extenders but I think it's disappearing in the next few years. It's be cool if they'd allow you to swap out the Rex module for a bigger battery, so as the charging infrstructure improves you'd be able to go full EV. You could even keep the Rex as a generator
cruisey1987 wrote: » From what I keep hearing, it's the lack of infrastructure which keeps people worried about running out of charge.
Kramer wrote: » Almost everyone I've ever encountered, asking about my EVs, ask about range. That's the first question - "how far can you drive it?". Subsequent questions would pertain to its ability to "tow a box", "drive my ESB bill through the roof", "need a new battery after a few years" etc. Non BEV owners ubiquitously have no idea about charging infrastructure, the fact it charges on my driveway every night & costs next to nothing to run. Eamon Ryan will change all that though - I hear he's proposing a bottle return scheme to start in 2022 & ban the sale of multipack food items in 2025 .
Kramer wrote: » Almost everyone I've ever encountered, asking about my EVs, ask about range. That's the first question - "how far can you drive it?". Subsequent questions would pertain to its ability to "tow a box", "drive my ESB bill through the roof", "need a new battery after a few years" etc.
Kramer wrote: » A Eamon Ryan will change all that though - I hear he's proposing a bottle return scheme to start in 2022 & ban the sale of multipack food items in 2025 .
Deleted User wrote: » The bottle return scheme is actually the first and only sensible thing I've heard come out of Eamon Ryan's mouth ever. This works great in Germany.
graememk wrote: » "So how often do you have to put petrol/diesel in it" Mrs : "Its full electric, its charged it at home"
graememk wrote: » I wasnt present for this conversation, but the question was along the lines of "So how often do you have to put petrol/diesel in it" Mrs : "Its full electric, its charged it at home" dont know how the rest of the conversation went
charlieIRL wrote: » The amount of people who still think the battery will only last the 8 years of the warranty is scary. Good few people have said it to me.
Deleted User wrote: » I've seen ionity charge bays ICED loads of times in Kill North. It's a pity they don't put the EV chargers up with the Petrol/Diesel pumps so at least People have shelter from the p1ssing rain, why should EV owners not have the same luxury ? There should be more EV charge points than Petrol pumps at each new garage.
ELM327 wrote: » Probably because Ionity is not really used since Maingau ended and we're stuck with exorbitant rates
Deleted User wrote: » Ah come on, the rates are not that bad if you don't use them every day ?
Deleted User wrote: » I was at Kilcullen service station on the M9 again Friday getting a Camile and saw a zoe plugging into the 150 kw, there was I hoping for a free charge, nope. 50 Kw was not in use. I'd be pretty p1ssed though if I had a car that could charge faster and it's taken up with these 50 Kw and under cars. But hopefully a higher Kwh price will ensure it's free for those that need it and hopefully the ESB might educate people more on these chargers.
ELM327 wrote: » It's actually more expensive to "fill" my EV at Ionity than to fill a nice petrol saloon I won't use them once my nefarious ways around not paying are discovered.
Deleted User wrote: » Seriously, you'd complain about having to pay 79 cent per Kwh for the ouple of times you might need it when you get it for much less on night rate at home for most of your charging needs ? I'd gladly pay this for the odd time I need the chargers if they are available I will gladly pay than risk paying 29 cent per Kwh at an ESB charger with a much greater risk of having to queue.
McGiver wrote: » They are cleverly designed for VW, Skoda, Audi etc to give reasonable Ionity rates for owners of their newly sold cars but to hammer everyone else. Somewhat like Tesla just a bit more open, they don't ban you completely from the network but just charge you fortune. Which is better than banning everyone complete, who needs the charge will pay eventually.
slave1 wrote: » What does the Zoe use to hook up to the high power units?
AndyBoBandy wrote: » The new ones are CCS aren't they?
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