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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Tom Young

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lawDani

JCormac wrote: »

Linking the petition for anyone who's interested:

https://www.change.org/p/law-society-of-ireland-expedite-the-release-of-results-from-the-august-fe-1-sitting-or-delay-the-october-sitting

lets get to 1,000! if there's even 1000 sitting October / awaiting results..
of the people, for the people , and all that..

JCormac

Linking the petition for anyone who's interested:

https://www.change.org/p/law-society-of-ireland-expedite-the-release-of-results-from-the-august-fe-1-sitting-or-delay-the-october-sitting

Lawlaw12

aisoburke1994 wrote: »

In response to Hiya's post, I understand some of you may have studied, myself included. You have to think about everyone and not just yourselves. It's not fair on those who have no answer on tort to have to wait like that and then to have the exam right after. Additionally it's not fair on those who do not live in Dublin or Cork and have to make arrangements coming from down the country.

It's the fairest thing to have every option for each student. If you have seen its about half who want the exams going forward and half who don't.

Agreed.
At the end of the day we all sitting these exams in different circumstances. For people who sat their first exams in August, or people who are still in college sitting a few FE1's this will not be a big deal as they may be planning on doing the March 2021 sitting anyway.

However, there are also those of us who are being seriously disadvantaged by the LSI's decision. People who had registered to sit Tort and EU in March were not given this as an 'additional sitting' we were actually delayed 5 months on our FE1 process.

As stated above some people have to pass within 3 sittings or have a deadline in their contract for passing, and if their second sitting was March 2020 and third is October, they are not being afforded the opportunity to repeat Tort/EU from their second sitting, an opportunity they would have had if the exams had gone ahead in March or if the LSI had actually managed to reorganise them without letting 5 months pass.

I completely understand that there are people who sat in August that will be planning on sitting exams in March anyway... but please bear in mind that for many of us the March sitting is not an option and that is why we are seeking an option to repeat just Tort and EU in November if we did not pass in August

sarahlawless

Liordi wrote: »

That's really strange. I imagine they will have to alter that condition since there is no longer the requirement of passing 3 FE1s in the first sitting.

I was planning on preparing two subjects at a time for the next four sittings.

Yeah, so I really need this October sitting to pass Contract and Constitutional!

Liordi

sarahlawless wrote: »

Not for my firm anyway, I'd sat two sitting before signing and now have one sitting to pass the remaining or my TC is rescinded.

That's really strange. I imagine they will have to alter that condition since there is no longer the requirement of passing 3 FE1s in the first sitting.

I was planning on preparing two subjects at a time for the next four sittings.

sarahlawless

Liordi wrote: »

I imagine that the requirement for the FE1s to be passed in three sittings means three sittings from the time you sign the contract.

Not for my firm anyway, I'd sat two sitting before signing and now have one sitting to pass the remaining or my TC is rescinded.

Liordi

The fairest solution in my opinion is the third one proposed in the petition.

Additional sittings should be made available in November 2020 for candidates who have failed an exam in the August 2020 sitting, if results are to be released on 28th September. This would be in addition to the October '20 sitting proceeding as scheduled.

I don't think it's necessary to change the current timetable for the October session. There are probably candidates who have already scheduled annual leave and/or booked accommodation/transport since the Law Society have officially announced the dates.

aisoburke1994

In response to Hiya's post, I understand some of you may have studied, myself included. You have to think about everyone and not just yourselves. It's not fair on those who have no answer on tort to have to wait like that and then to have the exam right after. Additionally it's not fair on those who do not live in Dublin or Cork and have to make arrangements coming from down the country.

It's the fairest thing to have every option for each student. If you have seen its about half who want the exams going forward and half who don't.

The amount of childish fighting on this site is ridiculous. Cop yourselves and let's work together to make these exams fair for everyone.

Liordi

IgoPAP wrote: »

I'm still in college and doing a few subjects at a time but I think I'll stop now if it's going to harm me in the long-term because I'll have too many sittings done even though I haven't failed any.

I really doubt this will affect current college students. I'm going into final year and I plan on sitting two FE1s in October.

Liordi

HubertInk wrote: »

If this rule applies retrospectively why don't any of the big firms specify in their TC applications how many FE-1 sittings you've had? If the limit is 3 and its set in stone, surely they would.

I imagine that the requirement for the FE1s to be passed in three sittings means three sittings from the time you sign the contract.

IgoPAP

HubertInk wrote: »

So if you've already had one or two sittings before receiving your TC, that means you only have one more siting to pass the FE-1's??? Should it not be based on the actual starting date of your TC?

I'm still in college and doing a few subjects at a time but I think I'll stop now if it's going to harm me in the long-term because I'll have too many sittings done even though I haven't failed any.

Hiya1234

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

I unfortunately do not have a training contract so was not thinking of that- it would be extremely unfair to those affected. Also if the firm takes away your training contract in a situation like this I wouldn’t really want to work for them anyway. There should be some leniency due to the current situation

I agree it’s unfair but I Just don’t know if I agree with exams for everyone being pushed back.

Yeah, thats completely fair not wanting exams being pushed back. Personally, I wouldn't want that either. I signed in the hopes they release results earlier and then also for those I know would lose their contracts if they happen to have failed in the August sitting.

Its up to everyone individually obviously whether to sign or not! For my sake, I would like the option to sit in October if I failed but I can sit in March so it is not the end of the world scenario for me. But it would be lovely to get these exams over with as soon as I can!

Also just hoping I didn't fail in August haha

Fe1student1234

Hiya1234 wrote: »

Some training contracts require you to pass the exams in 3 sittings and if you don't your contract is rescinded. This is why you should consider signing it. If tort was on in March and someone failed they can re sit it in October with any other potential fails. But if they cant and October is their 3rd sitting, doing tort the following march would make it their 4th sitting and their contract is gone.

It is only fair to allow people to re sit the exam if failed in October as they would have been able to do if the exam was in March.

I unfortunately do not have a training contract so was not thinking of that- it would be extremely unfair to those affected. Also if the firm takes away your training contract in a situation like this I wouldn’t really want to work for them anyway. There should be some leniency due to the current situation

I agree it’s unfair but I Just don’t know if I agree with exams for everyone being pushed back.

HubertInk

Hiya1234 wrote: »

Check your contract. If there is a clause in it then it applies to you, if you dont have any such clauses then I wouldn't worry about it.

My firm just doesn't want me to post pone my start date so if I postpone more than once due to a failed exam then my contract is rescinded. This isn't in my contract - I have just heard this from word of mouth from the graduate recruiter.

If this rule applies retrospectively why don't any of the big firms specify in their TC applications how many FE-1 sittings you've had? If the limit is 3 and its set in stone, surely they would.

sarahlawless

Hiya1234 wrote: »

Check your contract. If there is a clause in it then it applies to you, if you dont have any such clauses then I wouldn't worry about it.

My firm just doesn't want me to post pone my start date so if I postpone more than once due to a failed exam then my contract is rescinded. This isn't in my contract - I have just heard this from word of mouth from the graduate recruiter.

All depends on the firm, nothing to worry about you'll be fully informed of the situation once you sign your contract

sarahlawless

HubertInk wrote: »

So if you've already had one or two sittings before receiving your TC, that means you only have one more siting to pass the FE-1's??? Should it not be based on the actual starting date of your TC?

Yup that's spot on! I wish it was based on the actual starting date..

Hiya1234

HubertInk wrote: »

So if you've already had one or two sittings before receiving your TC, that means you only have one more siting to pass the FE-1's??? Should it not be based on the actual starting date of your TC?

Check your contract. If there is a clause in it then it applies to you, if you dont have any such clauses then I wouldn't worry about it.

My firm just doesn't want me to post pone my start date so if I postpone more than once due to a failed exam then my contract is rescinded. This isn't in my contract - I have just heard this from word of mouth from the graduate recruiter.

HubertInk

sarahlawless wrote: »

Yes it is true, I am in this boat! I was only informed after accepting but seems pretty set in stone!

So if you've already had one or two sittings before receiving your TC, that means you only have one more siting to pass the FE-1's??? Should it not be based on the actual starting date of your TC?

Hiya1234

HubertInk wrote: »

Is this actually true? Does it apply to the exams you've sat before receiving the TC offer?

I am not sure tbh. I don't have any clauses in my contract re. passing the exams in a certain amount of sittings.

But my friends have specific clauses in their contracts requiring no more than 3 sittings to pass.

So it depends on the firm.

sarahlawless

HubertInk wrote: »

Is this actually true? Does it apply to the exams you've sat before receiving the TC offer?

Yes it is true, I am in this boat! I was only informed after accepting but seems pretty set in stone!

HubertInk

Hiya1234 wrote: »

Some training contracts require you to pass the exams in 3 sittings and if you don't your contract is rescinded.

Is this actually true? Does it apply to the exams you've sat before receiving the TC offer?

Hiya1234

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

I agree and think that’s probably the fairest and there’d be a small enough number to correct so results should be back quite quickly.

I was due to sit tort in March and then sat in August. I’ve just already decided that if I fail I’ll just have to wait till next March which is fine for me because I’m not due to start the hybrid but for those people that are should definitely be allowed resit in November

Some training contracts require you to pass the exams in 3 sittings and if you don't your contract is rescinded. This is why you should consider signing it. If tort was on in March and someone failed they can re sit it in October with any other potential fails. But if they cant and October is their 3rd sitting, doing tort the following march would make it their 4th sitting and their contract is gone.

It is only fair to allow people to re sit the exam if failed in October as they would have been able to do if the exam was in March.

Fe1student304

Looking for most recent/ up to date grids for Company/Property/EU in exchange for sample answers from one of companies

L.E.D

I signed it, more in the hope that the results will be out earlier, rather then delaying the exams, it's unprecedented times so probably won't make a difference but here's hoping!

JCormac

Lawlaw12 wrote: »

I've signed it, it's almost at 200 signatures now.

This was not an extra sitting for a lot of people and it is completely unfair that we will potentially lose out on the opportunity to repeat in October which would have been available if the Law Society had put the exams online in March, instead of delaying them 5 months on us.

Worth a shot to try and get them to take this into consideration

Where is this petition? Link?

Cheers.

Fe1student1234

Lealaw wrote: »

I won't be signing either.

I have been studying for the October sitting for the last number of months and really think it is short sighted to delay the whole set of exams for a small number of people who may fail.

I think if you fail and are due to join the hybrid PPC you should be given the option to do it online later October/ November similar to the lockdown counties for the august sitting, giving you the opportunity to still be in the running.

I agree and think that’s probably the fairest and there’d be a small enough number to correct so results should be back quite quickly.

I was due to sit tort in March and then sat in August. I’ve just already decided that if I fail I’ll just have to wait till next March which is fine for me because I’m not due to start the hybrid but for those people that are should definitely be allowed resit in November

CSC1997

This is all a Government plan to distract you from the fact that the boozers are still not open yet. They want us arguing, do not buy into it.

Lealaw

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

I won’t be.

I checked it and think it has like 80 signatures

I won't be signing either.

I have been studying for the October sitting for the last number of months and really think it is short sighted to delay the whole set of exams for a small number of people who may fail.

I think if you fail and are due to join the hybrid PPC you should be given the option to do it online later October/ November similar to the lockdown counties for the august sitting, giving you the opportunity to still be in the running.

HubertInk

I'm not so sure about this "petition". Who created it? Is it valid? Or is it some Law Society psy-op to get the names of unruly students to blacklist later?

Lawlaw12

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

I won’t be.

I checked it and think it has like 80 signatures

I've signed it, it's almost at 200 signatures now.

This was not an extra sitting for a lot of people and it is completely unfair that we will potentially lose out on the opportunity to repeat in October which would have been available if the Law Society had put the exams online in March, instead of delaying them 5 months on us.

Worth a shot to try and get them to take this into consideration