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Nvidia RTX Discussion

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A new era in 3D graphics stands before us.

First-gen Raytracing GPUs:

Nvidia "Turing" - Quadro RTX 5000 / 6000 / 8000 (US$ 2'300 / 6'300 / 10'000)

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13214/nvidia-reveals-next-gen-turing-gpu-architecture
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13217/nvidia-announces-turing-powered-quadro-rtx-family

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Hyzepher

CEX UK are taking 2080ti for £399 according to their site

Longing

Heads up. My local CEX would not take my 1080. Assistant ask did I check price online I said yes. She answered we have to ring head office over price and purchase. 2hrs later when I went back she give me the card back and said come back next week.

JoyPad

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

I think the 3070 will only be faster in RT, maybe DLSS also - USP will be this streaming technology. I still think the 2080ti will be the faster card in the real world. The memory is going to hobble the 3070 I'd imagine.

So I reckon the 2080ti will hold around about €500.

Don't forget the 3070Ti or 3070 Super. Sell the 2080Ti for 650 and get the 3070Ti for the same money, or slightly less.

Samuel T. Cogley

I think the 3070 will only be faster in RT, maybe DLSS also - USP will be this streaming technology. I still think the 2080ti will be the faster card in the real world. The memory is going to hobble the 3070 I'd imagine.

So I reckon the 2080ti will hold around about €500.

ShadowHearth

jebidiah wrote: »

There's a lot of entertainment on adverts at the moment. Lads getting low balled by 3-400 euro etc. Very good stuff.

I'm not sure why CEX are buying the 2080ti for 650?! Would make a lot of sense to off load your card there if you're worried

As I said previously, if I had 2080ti to offload, then I would be running to cex right now. 650eu is the best they will ever get. I can't believe no one in CEX HQ have copped on. Surely even in higher ups they have some nerdy dude who fallows tech world.
I can't really even defend opinion of keeping it and just playing it. Selling to cex for 650eu, and adding another 50eu ish will get you modern 3080, which is faster ( will get faster with drivers ). Or spending 150eu on drugs, cheap hookers and bottle of vodka, then buying 3070 for 500eu 3070, that is still faster then 2080ti.

Squidgy Black

jebidiah wrote: »

There's a lot of entertainment on adverts at the moment. Lads getting low balled by 3-400 euro etc. Very good stuff.

I'm not sure why CEX are buying the 2080ti for 650?! Would make a lot of sense to off load your card there if you're worried

CEX will take ages to update their prices off the back of a release, but once they start getting a steady stock in they'll drop them fairly quick. Could also be a different story if you went in-store to trade one in vs what it says on the site.

jebidiah

There's a lot of entertainment on adverts at the moment. Lads getting low balled by 3-400 euro etc. Very good stuff.

I'm not sure why CEX are buying the 2080ti for 650?! Would make a lot of sense to off load your card there if you're worried

ShadowHearth

Hyzepher wrote: »

If the 3070 turns out to be the card that Nvidia have promoted then I predict the following once supply is adequate;

1080ti - €200
2060/Super - €150
2070 - €200
RX 5700XT - €200
2070 Super - €220
2080 - €240
2080 Super - €260
2080ti - €400

These could go even lower if AMD releases anything mildly competitive

Those prices would be almost spot on if 3060 will be 350eu ish card with performance of 2070S. Though i can't see 2080ti holding 400eu price tag. That's considering if 3070 is same/faster at launch then 2080ti. As we know gpus always get faster with more mature drivers too, so the gap is going to be bigger with time.

Saying all that adverts.ie is the place in its own universe. Just checked some of the pcs people are selling there. Wow...

Samuel T. Cogley

TitianGerm wrote: »

To be honest you'd be as well keeping your card and using it for something else than sell for €150.

Tempted to make a present of my 5700XT to my BIL who has a 580 and keep the 580 myself as a back up. You know for when I need to dump my 3070 for the 5070* :pac:

*Bet the 40-series will be crap. It's like the opposite of the Star Trek films where the even numbered ones are the best.

kingtiger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKneUFwVkXI

JoyPad

Looks like I will upgrade two PCs from 1080Ti to the new 30-series cards. But it would be foolish to pre-order right away, when we don't know what AMD is bringing to the table, and what Nvidia will bring to the table as a response to that.
Is it not clear that Nvidia has Super variants ready to launch?

As such, I'm not selling until I have a replacement card in hand, at the risk of selling them for peanuts. Maybe not 50 quid, but surely less than 300.

TitianGerm

Hyzepher wrote: »

If the 3070 turns out to be the card that Nvidia have promoted then I predict the following once supply is adequate;

1080ti - €200
2060/Super - €150
2070 - €200
RX 5700XT - €200
2070 Super - €220
2080 - €240
2080 Super - €260
2080ti - €400

These could go even lower if AMD releases anything mildly competitive

To be honest you'd be as well keeping your card and using it for something else than sell for €150.

Hyzepher

If the 3070 turns out to be the card that Nvidia have promoted then I predict the following once supply is adequate;

1080ti - €200
2060/Super - €150
2070 - €200
RX 5700XT - €200
2070 Super - €220
2080 - €240
2080 Super - €260
2080ti - €400

These could go even lower if AMD releases anything mildly competitive

Revoker88

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I know its kind of beating death horse at this point when it comes to adverts.ie, but i kind of understand 2080ti crowd being bitter and trying to hold value for longer as they use CEX as their saver ( not for long ), but what really surprises me is the lower tier card sellers, they still looking crazy money for stuff like 2060, 2070, 2080 non ti.
Nvidia really crushed second hand market with this. Really looking forward to 3060 and what AMD can do in market for peasants like me.

Yeah last i checked it was bad on adverts,people always crap on adverts but its been very useful to me as a seller.

I've sold a good bit of stuff over the years. Usually ends up me and buyer being happy so its a good service to have imo.

I do feel sorry for people who's card value got decimated over night. No one saw that coming. The ones who have their cards up for the last while but not willing to budge on price ie they nearly wanted more than they paid for it,they can suck a lemon,unfortunately those asses are part of adverts too.

I'm sure some people who buy second hand parts and put together machines will be hit hard too. A lot of those machines are over priced so hard to feel sorry for all them but i do for some.

Squidgy Black

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I know its kind of beating death horse at this point when it comes to adverts.ie, but i kind of understand 2080ti crowd being bitter and trying to hold value for longer as they use CEX as their saver ( not for long ), but what really surprises me is the lower tier card sellers, they still looking crazy money for stuff like 2060, 2070, 2080 non ti.
Nvidia really crushed second hand market with this. Really looking forward to 3060 and what AMD can do in market for peasants like me.

Even the 1080s are being listed for crazy prices never mind 1080tis. I've been trying to nab a cheap card that'll do 1440p to tide me over for the next few months until the 3080s are widely available, as I don't mind taking a hundred quid or so hit when I have to sell it on to do me for now, but it looks like things won't really shift until the new cards are released.

Nedved85

I could do with an old card if anyone is looking to offload one. Just so I can use my pc and do light gaming. 50 quid budget. Let me know.

ShadowHearth

I know its kind of beating death horse at this point when it comes to adverts.ie, but i kind of understand 2080ti crowd being bitter and trying to hold value for longer as they use CEX as their saver ( not for long ), but what really surprises me is the lower tier card sellers, they still looking crazy money for stuff like 2060, 2070, 2080 non ti.
Nvidia really crushed second hand market with this. Really looking forward to 3060 and what AMD can do in market for peasants like me.

Squidgy Black

TitianGerm wrote: »

Cheers for that. Do we need 850W for a 3080?

I'm sticking in an order for a 3600 & MSI B550 Bazooka from AWD today for £270 but unfortunately they don't have any Seasonic PSUs in stock. They do have the Corsair RM750 though. I think those are meant to be quite a good PSU.

750w+ is being recommended, but I'd more be thinking if I was gonna splash out on a new one I'd rather go with the extra headroom

Cordell

JoyPad wrote: »

Definitely a calculator. How could I even measure the actual consumption? One of those thingumabobs that you insert between the PSU cable and the wall socket? Don't have one

A PSU calculator will add the max power for all components, but that's not something that you will be able to reach even if you're trying

I suspect you won't be drawing more than 350W with your current GPU when gaming, and very likely not even that. You will probably get closer to 500W with a 3080, but not over.

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_wtoCBahhM

TitianGerm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have the RM850 in mine. It's the newer shorter version of it too. No complaints.

Thanks for that. Just under £380 for the B550, 3600 and the 750PSU and then MSI are doing £38 cash back so seems pretty reasonable.

[Deleted User]

TitianGerm wrote: »

Cheers for that. Do we need 850W for a 3080?

I'm sticking in an order for a 3600 & MSI B550 Bazooka from AWD today for £270 but unfortunately they don't have any Seasonic PSUs in stock. They do have the Corsair RM750 though. I think those are meant to be quite a good PSU.

I have the RM850 in mine. It's the newer shorter version of it too. No complaints.

JoyPad

Cordell wrote: »

It's an extra 70W so it should be fine*. That 500W figure, was it measured, or the result of a PSU calculator?

*not my responsibility if it goes up in flames, for peace of mind go with the NV recomendation of 750W

Definitely a calculator. How could I even measure the actual consumption? One of those thingumabobs that you insert between the PSU cable and the wall socket? Don't have one

Cordell

JoyPad wrote: »

Does anyone recommend any power supply calculator?
I wonder if I can get a 3080 on my current PSU.

I have a Z270 mobo with i7-7700k CPU (stock clock), H100v2 cooler, 3x sorage (NVMe SSD, SATA SSD, SATA HDD) and GTX1080Ti (stock) on a 650W Corsair PSU.

IIRC, the max draw is around 500W in this setup, but I don't recall how much of that was the GPU, how close can I get to the max PSU power, etc.

It's an extra 70W so it should be fine*. That 500W figure, was it measured, or the result of a PSU calculator?

*not my responsibility if it goes up in flames, for peace of mind go with the NV recomendation of 750W

Samuel T. Cogley

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

TitianGerm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Scan have the Seasonic Focus GX850 in stock for £120 which are in the A tier on the LinusTechTips list, thinking that might be the way to go

Cheers for that. Do we need 850W for a 3080?

I'm sticking in an order for a 3600 & MSI B550 Bazooka from AWD today for £270 but unfortunately they don't have any Seasonic PSUs in stock. They do have the Corsair RM750 though. I think those are meant to be quite a good PSU.

JoyPad

Cordell wrote: »

Going by the specs, if you have a 1080ti (250W) you should be able to replace it with a 3070 (220W only one 8pin needed) but you may need a new PSU for the 3080 (320W, 2x 8pin needed).

Does anyone recommend any power supply calculator?
I wonder if I can get a 3080 on my current PSU.

I have a Z270 mobo with i7-7700k CPU (stock clock), H100v2 cooler, 3x sorage (NVMe SSD, SATA SSD, SATA HDD) and GTX1080Ti (stock) on a 650W Corsair PSU.

IIRC, the max draw is around 500W in this setup, but I don't recall how much of that was the GPU, how close can I get to the max PSU power, etc.

Squidgy Black

Hyzepher wrote: »

I saw this on adverts - not sure if its value or not
https://www.adverts.ie/power-supply-units/cooler-master-vanguard-v850w-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-desktop-power-supply/21431733

Cheers, from looking around I can't see them for sale anywhere other than some old reviews from last year so bit of a gamble for the 90 quid he wants I think?

Squidgy Black

TitianGerm wrote: »

I've been looking this morning on Amazon because I've vouchers and they're scarce at the moment.

Scan have the Seasonic Focus GX850 in stock for £120 which are in the A tier on the LinusTechTips list, thinking that might be the way to go

Hyzepher

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Anyone have any recommendations for a 750w+ gold modular power supply? My CX650M is probably about 5 years old now and unfortunately seen a lot of dust for a couple of careless years so could do with upgrading anyways.

I saw this on adverts - not sure if its value or not
https://www.adverts.ie/power-supply-units/cooler-master-vanguard-v850w-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-desktop-power-supply/21431733

TitianGerm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Anyone have any recommendations for a 750w+ gold modular power supply? My CX650M is probably about 5 years old now and unfortunately seen a lot of dust for a couple of careless years so could do with upgrading anyways.

I've been looking this morning on Amazon because I've vouchers and they're scarce at the moment.