2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

namloc1980 wrote: »

Rabid Biden fans? The projection is unreal.

Dude..you have 297 posts in this thread, which is part 2..

All the projection I can see is happening from the democratic side, to a point where I can't believe they're lacking so self awareness to the point that they're being honest..

This is an Irish board..there are no rabid Trump fans here..there are probably people who are like 'yeah, he's boorish, but he's kind of funny..the media absolutely hate him, and 80 percent of posters here seem to think he's the devil incarnate..'..

The anti trump crowd fail to see how they're fueling him..

Timberrrrrrrr

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

So we've established the deaths aren't as high as SOME other countries then. Excellent.

Fixed that for you for truth.

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

So we've established the deaths aren't as high as other countries then. Excellent.

Of two hundred odd countries in the world, the US is only performing better than 10 of them. That's like finishing in the bottom of the Premier League which would not be considered to be doing well.

And that's being kind. The countries with a higher death rate than the US are made up of tiny countries, countries that had much less notice, a country actively not doing anything about it and a few more that are performing poorly themselves.

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

Dude..you have 297 posts in this thread, which is part 2..

What's the post count for someone to become a "rabid fan"?

Muahahaha

Igotadose wrote: »

Models this am showing over 400k deaths on the US by January. The US response is on Trump

Thats astonishing really. Things there seem to be getting even worse, I remember at the start of July they were projecting 200k deaths by election day November 3rd. But now today its at 191k and we are only about a week away before it hits the 200k barrier. Models at the beginning of August projected 250k deaths by polling day but even that looks optimistic at this stage, it will probably be c.280k dead by polling day. Trump has really messed this up royally yet last night he was mocking Biden for wearing a mask. People are dying and Trump is out of control just like the virus.

namloc1980 wrote: »

What's the post count for someone to become a "rabid fan"?

It's sub 297 anyway..

Anyway..yeah, maybe take a break from the election cycle for a few days..might do you the world of good..

Deleted User wrote: »

This is an Irish board..there are no rabid Trump fans here..there are probably people who are like 'yeah, he's boorish, but he's kind of funny..the media absolutely hate him, and 80 percent of posters here seem to think he's the devil incarnate..'..

Really? You must have missed the guy who only believes Trump or the many who make posts that would make a North Korean news reader blush with their over the top praise of something Trump did or the guy who psychically divines what Trump meant or the many who completely change what they claim to believe whenever an act by Trump requires it.

Deleted User wrote: »

Dude..you have 297 posts in this thread, which is part 2..

All the projection I can see is happening from the democratic side, to a point where I can't believe they're lacking so self awareness to the point that they're being honest..

This is an Irish board..there are no rabid Trump fans here..there are probably people who are like 'yeah, he's boorish, but he's kind of funny..the media absolutely hate him, and 80 percent of posters here seem to think he's the devil incarnate..'..

The anti trump crowd fail to see how they're fueling him..

i'd love to know what threads you have been reading because it caertainly hasn't been this one. that is as poor an analysis as i have seen and i include those done by the diehard trump cultists in that.

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

It's sub 297 anyway..

Anyway..yeah, maybe take a break from the election cycle for a few days..might do you the world of good..

Can you let me know the post count so we can inform others on this thread to also take a break as you suggest. Thanks.

mcmoustache wrote: »

Really? You must have missed the guy who only believes Trump or the many who make posts that would make a North Korean news reader blush with their over the top praise of something Trump did or the guy who psychically divines what Trump meant or the many who completely change what they claim to believe whenever an act by Trump requires it.

Yeah, but the inverse of that has been happening since before he got elected..

Like, if someone wrote an article saying he'd eaten their mother, half of ye would be posting it here going 'yeah, but he ate this guy's mother' and believing it so completely that it's just kind of funny to watch really..

Igotadose

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I can't say with 100% certainty what his plan is but my best guess would be for him to continue to create more jobs and stimulate an economic recovery once the pandemic is over

What's the GOP plan for the economy in 2021? You know, like, a party platform statement?

namloc1980 wrote: »

Can you let me know the post count so we can inform others on this thread to also take a break as you suggest. Thanks.

haha..

Gerry Hatrick

mcmoustache wrote: »

Of two hundred odd countries in the world, the US is only performing better than 10 of them. That's like finishing in the bottom of the Premier League which would not be considered to be doing well.

And that's being kind. The countries with a higher death rate than the US are made up of tiny countries, countries that had much less notice, a country actively not doing anything about it and a few more that are performing poorly themselves.

So not the worst despite the incredible amount of movement and commerce that takes place there.

Igotadose

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

So we've established the deaths aren't as high as other countries then. Excellent.

So, you'd be in favor of the US having the highest death rate? Winning/Greatest Nation in the World/whatever?

Projections are 400k deaths by the end of the year. Where would that put the US?

Carfacemandog

salmocab wrote: »

So your defence is he’s not doing quite as bad as some other countries, namely the ones doing bad. That must be the stupidest defence I’ve ever read.

Isn't it funny how *ahem* all these accounts no longer add Ireland on that list like they were a few months ago now that the US has over 3x our cases and over 1.5x our deaths, with both of those gaps rising strongly every day.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'd love to know what threads you have been reading because it caertainly hasn't been this one. that is as poor an analysis as i have seen and i include those done by the diehard trump cultists in that.

I haven't really been reading this thread..

Dude, you'll give yourself a hernia..

WrenBoy

namloc1980 wrote: »

Proof?

You'll find that it is probably "Fake News"

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trumps-false-claims-about-pelosi-and-chinatown/

No, she definitely did, I remember that alright.

Eeeehh the Dems calling Corona travel ban racist was a bit on the line, Im happy to take that bit back but they definitely intimated that in their messaging. My point being that the numbers of Corona cases cant be laid fully at Trumps door when many in Government gave conflicting statements and advice regarding it both helpful and hurting Americans attitude towards the virus. Also all those large marches and protests must have drove numbers up.

"Biden has not directly said that the restrictions were xenophobic. Around the time the Trump administration announced the travel restriction, Biden said that Trump had a "record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering." Biden used the phrase "xenophobic" in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which he described the coronavirus as the "Chinese virus.""

Gerry Hatrick

Igotadose wrote: »

So, you'd be in favor of the US having the highest death rate? Winning/Greatest Nation in the World/whatever?

Projections are 400k deaths by the end of the year. Where would that put the US?

It's a projection nothing more.

Why would I be in favour of a high death rate? You've lost me there.

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, but the inverse of that has been happening since before he got elected..

Like, if someone wrote an article saying he'd eaten their mother, half of ye would be posting it here going 'yeah, but he ate this guy's mother' and believing it so completely that it's just kind of funny to watch really..

But that doesn't reflect the reality of these threads though. Those who dislike Trump have been quick to correct each other while Trump fans thank each other's posts even when they post proven falsehoods.

Deleted User wrote: »

I haven't really been reading this thread..

Dude, you'll give yourself a hernia..

so your opinion is based on ignorance. that makes sense at least.

Leroy42

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

So not the worst despite the incredible amount of movement and commerce that takes place there.

So when, which based on the daily death rates, it becomes the worst, is that the time you will accept that Trump has made a mess of it?

Because remember, he said they were doing a great job when there was only a few deaths. He said they were doing great with less than a few thousand deaths.

Is there a point that you will accept that Trump is not doing a good job?

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

It's a projection nothing more.

Why would I be in favour of a high death rate? You've lost me there.

it is a very simple projection to make. 1000+ deaths a day and no sign of that coming down. do you not think trump should be something to reduce that number? is that not his job? I cant remember the last time he even mentioned covid. he wants to forget about it and hope it goes away.

Carfacemandog

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

It's a projection nothing more.

Why would I be in favour of a high death rate? You've lost me there.

Given that you claim to not like Trump yet all I have seen here is you defending him to the hilt, what is it about him that makes you dislike him in terms of personality and/or policy and/or achievements in office?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so your opinion is based on ignorance. that makes sense at least.

Yes, well, I sometimes have better things to be doing than laughing at idiots getting worked up about politics in the US..

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, well, I sometimes have better things to be doing than laughing at idiots getting worked up about politics in the US..

so you're a bit bored this morning and thought you might try to get a rise out of people, is that it?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so you're a bit bored this morning and thought you might try to get a rise out of people, is that it?

Kind of..yeah..

Gerry Hatrick

Leroy42 wrote: »

So when, which based on the daily death rates, it becomes the worst, is that the time you will accept that Trump has made a mess of it?

Because remember, he said they were doing a great job when there was only a few deaths. He said they were doing great with less than a few thousand deaths.

Is there a point that you will accept that Trump is not doing a good job?

I base my opinions on actual reality not projections. If that day comes let's see.